thyroid

perspiration, overactive thyroid causing fatigue

[PurpleNails Administrator]

Hello & welcome to the thyroid forum.

What is your diagnosis and cause of hyper? Are you taking medication to treat it? Carbimazole or PTU

Do you have any results results to share?

The tests you are checking for should include:

TSH

FT4

FT3

Thyroid antibodies: which show if a autoimmune condition is affecting you.

TPOab (Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies)

TGab (Thyroglobulin antibodies)

If Graves’ disease is suspected this MUST be confirmed with positive

Thyroid-Stimulating Immunoglobulin (TSI)

TRab) TSH receptor antibodies - (measures stimulating, neural & blocking antibodies)

Also important to test:

B12

Ferritin

Folate

Vitamin D

Pleas post any results you have (with ranges) and we can advise further

[Buddy195 Administrator]

Welcome to the forum dianneboylan,Can you tell us a little bit more about your thyroid concerns, so we can best support and advise. I notice on your profile page you have IBS and COPD listed, but no mention of thyroid issues. Have you received a diagnosis? Are you taking thyroid medication?

[Hidden in reply to Buddy195]

Hi I had a thyroidectomy 15 years ago I take 125 levothyroxine, intolerance to heat, feel drained sick . My thyroid level spot on

[Buddy195 Administrator in reply to Hidden]

‘Spot on’ or ‘within range’ might not be optimal for you. Can you post results with ranges for TSH, FT3 and FT4 so we can advise. Have you tested key vitamins (ferritin, folate, vitamin D and B12)?

[Hidden in reply to Buddy195]

I haven't got results dr said thyroid fine so I dont know why I get overheated, just fed up of it

[Buddy195 Administrator in reply to Hidden]

Please ask your GP for a copy of your results and post them in a new post on the forum. When GPS say ‘fine’ they generally mean ‘in range’ but as the ranges are wide, your levels could be too low.

Roughly how old are you? Could over heating be a peri menopause symptom?

[Hidden in reply to Buddy195]

Early menopause age 36

[Buddy195 Administrator in reply to Hidden]

Regarding menopause/ early menopause it may be useful to have a look at Dr Louise Newson’s free Balance App, as I find it really useful for comparing HRT medications & having up to date research articles. There is also an ability to post questions.

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[Hidden in reply to Buddy195]

age 57 now

[pennyannie]

Hello Dianne and welcome to the forum :

A fully functioning working thyroid would be supporting you on a daily basis with trace elements of T1, T2 and calcitonin plus a measure of T3 at around 10 mcg plus a measure of T4 at around 100 mcg.

T4 is a storage hormone and needs to converted by your body into T3 the active hormone that runs all your bodily functions including your physical, mental, emotional, psychological and spiritual well being your inner central heating system and your metabolism.

Do you have any blood thyroid blood tests you can share with forum members ?

What blood tests are you referring to that you consider ' spot on ' as if they were maybe you wouldn't be having these symptoms that have prompted you to make this question ?

No thyroid hormone works well if your core strength vitamins and minerals, of ferritin, folate, B12 and vitamin D are not maintained at optimal levels ?

Conversion of T4 into T3 can also be compromised by inflammation, any physiological stress ( emotional or physical ), dieting, depression and ageing - so whilst we can't turn back time there's something we can do about much.

It is essential that you are dosed and monitored on your T3 and T4 blood test results and not a TSH reading seen is isolation :

Some people can get by on T4 only :

Some people find that T4 seems to stop working as well as it once did and find their health restored when they add back in a little T3 - likely replacing that lost by having had a thyroidectomy - making a T3/T4 combo :

Some people can't tolerate T4 and need to take T3 only :

Whilst others find their health restored better by taking Natural Desiccated Thyroid which is derived from pig thyroids, dried and ground down into tablets referred to as grains.

NDT was successfully used for over 100 years to treat hypothyroidism and the first ever treatment and on which Big Pharma launched their own thyroid hormones T3 - Liothyronine and T4 - Levothyroxine.

[Hidden in reply to pennyannie]

I dont understand

[pennyannie in reply to Hidden]

OK - do you have any thyroid blood tests results and ranges there - would you like to share them with forum members so we can explain them to you ?

What else do you need explaining ?

[Hidden in reply to pennyannie]

I dont have any blood tests results

[pennyannie in reply to Hidden]

You are legally entitled to copies of your blood tests :

So you could ask the receptionist at the doctors for the last couple of sets of the thyroid blood tests you have had and we could take a look and see if anything looks a little ' off ' for you, if you like.

I was in exactly the same position and simply asked the question and was given printed copies which then showed me that I wasn't even getting the full thyroid blood test run, but just a TSH which really isn't of any value.

Like the vast majority of people on this forum I then arranged my own private blood tests from a company as listed with the Thyroid UK website as detailed to you last evening.

It is a massive learning curve and I was totally shocked that I couldn't get a TSH, T3 and T4 run in primary care and learnt that my T3 had not been tested since my discharged from hospital some 10 years earlier.

You maybe more fortunate with your doctor, I don't know, but through reading on this forum it becomes evident that it wasn't just me, and there are many thousands of us in a similar situation.

Last time I looked there were over 125 thousand people who have asked a similar questions and why I now come back on here and try and give back as with Thyroid UK it is patient led and we help each other get our lives and health back on track.

[pennyannie in reply to Hidden]

You say you have had a thyroidectomy:

Hence my reply about the thyroid and the treatment options available.

You can't be overactive if you have had a thyroidectomy - BUT you could be over medicated or not correctly medicated - - but we can't tell you that unless we see a TSH, T3 and T4 blood test and range:

So your symptoms - in your own words are - that of perspiration, an ' overactive ' thyroid causing fatigue, heat intolerance and of being drained sick but your doctor says you are fine and your thyroid is spot on ' ?

Well, first things first - let's see what these blood tests say - you are legally entitled to copies of all your blood tests - so maybe that is the first step - can I ask, why did you have a thyroidectomy ?

[Hidden in reply to pennyannie]

I dont know what tests, doctors dont tell u, I'll ask

[pennyannie in reply to Hidden]

Ok then - I would assume you have been getting a yearly thyroid function test ?

Some others may have been run as you are not well - i don't know :

You maybe able to access your medical records - as this must be the easiest way of seeing everything, at leisure on your laptop :

I think you have to register for this service - so another question for the receptionist :

Just as an aside - when having a blood test for thyroid, it's important to take your daily dose of T4 - Levothyroxine after the blood draw as this gives the best set of results for the patient.

T4 is a storage hormone - you will be ok - don't worry.

You need an early as possible morning appointment - fast over night just taking in water and then, afterward the blood draw, take your daily dose of thyroid hormone.

You should always take T4 on an empty stomach and wait around an hour before you eat or drink anything.

Some people take their T4 at night - I take my thyroid hormone replacement in the middle of the night at a toilet break - as I need a hot drink quite soon after I wake up, not that it gives me any energy or anything - as it's just one of those silly but important to me habits.

[Hidden]

Because I had a goiter

[pennyannie in reply to Hidden]

Was your goitre caused by a thyroid auto immune disease - Graves or Hashimoto's Disease ?

[Hidden in reply to pennyannie]

Graves

[pennyannie in reply to Hidden]

Yes, well, I thought so, I too have Graves Disease though went through RAI thyroid ablation in 2005.

It is imperative that you are dosed and monitored on your T3 and T4 blood test results and not a TSH though fully accept that in primary care you may only get a TSH and a T4 blood test once in a blue moon.

In Graves patients the TSH is not a reliable measure of anything as we can have TRab antibodies sitting on our TSH receptors sites that can give the impression that we are ' hyper ' when in fact, the reality is we are not optimally medicated and our T3 and T4 levels are unbalanced.

elaine-moore.com - Elaine Moore has Graves Disease and has spent the last 20 years researching this poorly understood and badly treated Auto immune disease.

Tired Thyroid - from Hyper - to Hypo - to Healing - Breaking the TSH rule - written by a lady with Graves - Barbara S Lougheed -

thyroiduk.org - for all things ' thyroid ' and many pages of useful information including a page detailing private companies who can run the appropriate blood tests for you if your doctor isn't able to to - and where we all generally start - getting ourselves better.