Has anybody heard about this peer-review that says vitamin D may exacerbate autoimmune disease?

[Lunario]

eurekalert.org/news-release...

No levels are mentioned, so I wonder what they consider to be a high level. 🤔

[SlowDragon Administrator]

That’s an old article from 2009

This article, saying the reverse is from this year

newscientist.com/article/23...

[Lunario in reply to SlowDragon]

How come I didn't see that? How embarrassing. Thank you, I am somewhat relieved now.

[shaws in reply to Lunario]

There's no need to be embarrassed as many people may need to supplement with Vitamin D

[roukounasGK in reply to SlowDragon]

Hello, The initial article from 2009 mentions that supplementing vitamin D, may worsen an already existing autoimmune. The article you mentioned states that it is a preventive way to avoid the autoimmune prior to getting it. I think that they mention 2 different things: your article (as well as every other article online) say that vitamin D helps you stay healthy. But what if you are not? This is a while different thing and may very well both be true.

[Alanna012]

As an aside I have read that vit D tests are a bit like ferritin, and iron. You can have quite enough freely available vit D even if you test low and if you therefore supplement having enough already, You can cause problems. It really put me in a dilemma.

I supplement anyway. But I always have a 'but' in my head

[Lunario in reply to Alanna012]

Do you remember where you read that? I agree, it's good to be careful with certain vitamins and minerals and to get tested now and then.

[Alanna012 in reply to Lunario]

One place I read it is on the Root Cause Protocol website but I can't find the specific article regarding the testing of Vit D but they have several. Worth hunting around for it

But I found this one:

therootcauseprotocol.com/ma...

Also this:

innate-nutrition.com/blog/v...

Actually you may have helped me because they suggest a link between high Vit D supplementation and hair loss.

I'll try and find where I saw the other article, I look at so many websites on thyroid and health I have a bazillion pages open on my phone and laptop😳

[mountainice in reply to Alanna012]

I've just looked at your second link and it has made me concerned I take too much D. What it is doesn't say is that is high supplementation ok as long as you take K2 and magnesium as well.

[Alanna012 in reply to mountainice]

It's a good question

[Yeswithasmile]

This is something that all may find interesting. I know there is a lot of new research now with covid and vit d but this is from 2017.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[Lunario]

SlowDragon , Alanna012 , Yeswithasmile

Thanks for another load of information. I wish I could download all this knowledge directly into my brain, so I wouldn't have to keep so many open pages on all of my screens, too.😉

[mountainice in reply to Lunario]

ha ha me too

[Yeswithasmile in reply to Lunario]

Me too. I must have read that at least 6 times now and every time I get surprised 🤣. Should have used the members name of Dory.

[Chrissy7]

Just read through this .. but am confused. Does anyone know for sure what is the right thing to do regarding Vitamin D?

[Polaris]

Vitamin D3 is, in fact, a hormone with receptors all over the body.

Latest research by Gareth Davies, Phd, recommends 10,000 iu a day; there is also an excellent utube DarkHorse video, as well as many others giving out good information: Grassroots website, Dr Carmen Wheatley, Oxford researcher…….

A statement, signed by over 200 top scientists, doctors, etc. recommending much higher doses, was also released last year.

Most people in the Northern Hemisphere, especially the elderly, those with darker skin, those using sunscreen, etc. do not not have high enough levels without supplementing.

nutraingredients.com/Articl...

vitamind4all.org/letter.pdf

[Eliotf]

I don't see where it states whether it is, and if it matters, Vit D3, or Fit D2

[Yeswithasmile]

The link I posted refers to D3. I don’t think there is much difference between the structures of d2 and 3 or the absorption. D3 is preferable as it is said to be more potent and so I guess you get more bang for your buck so to speak, supplement wise.

[Lunario]

Regarding therootcauseprotocol.com, maybe I misunderstood something. Interesting site, but to be honest I struggle with some instructions Morley gives.

Well, it is certainly helpful for healthy people. For hypochlorhydria (due to autoimmune gastritis), I think it is a very bad idea to forgo iron supplementation, to give just one example. Iron and vitamin D3 are also known to be very important in converting T4 to T3, I think we are all very aware of that. I highly doubt that if one follows this protocol, antibodies to parietal cells, intrinsic factor, TPO, etc., and the resulting deficiencies and symptoms will simply disappear.

If I were to go without certain supplements, my blood results would look catastrophic within a very short time and I would be a wreck.

I’m not bashing against Morley, but this is definitely nothing I would give a try. Anyhow, I would be interested in hearing about your thoughts and/or experiences because I'm sure there's an approach or two that would be good for someone with absorption disorders respectively autoimmune disease.

[Capri2020]

This may be of interest-youtu.be/PboG6rrA-jc(Not working as expected?)

[Lunario in reply to Capri2020]

Thanks, I'll take a look at it this weekend.

[Lunario in reply to Capri2020]

This was very educational, thanks again.👍

[Capri2020 in reply to Lunario]

You're very welcome 🙂