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Just had my TSH results and they are 2.4 which the doctor has said that that’s fine.

I am on Levothyroxine I take 75 micro grams a day. I have been on this dose for three months. My weight is 11 stone and I am five foot tall, just wondering do I need a higher dose with my weight,the doctor said no they only look at the TSH

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Please reread all replies in previous post 4 months ago - here

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Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

Which brand of levothyroxine are you currently taking

You know you have autoimmune thyroid disease

Get full thyroid and vitamin testing done NOW

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested.

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis. Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

In U.K. medics never call it Hashimoto’s, just autoimmune thyroid disease (and they usually ignore the autoimmune aspect)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

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Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

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TSH should be under 2 as an absolute maximum when on levothyroxine

gponline.com/endocrinology-...

Replacement therapy with levothyroxine should be initiated in all patients to achieve a TSH level of 0.5-2.0pmol/L.

NHS England Liothyronine guidelines July 2019 clearly state on page 13 that TSH should be between 0.4-1.5 when OPTIMALLY treated with just Levothyroxine

Note that it says test should be in morning BEFORE taking levothyroxine

Also to test vitamin D, folate, B12 and ferritin

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Graph showing TSH in healthy population

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Aim is to bring a TSH under 2.5

UK guidance suggests aiming for a TSH of 0.5–2.5

gp-update.co.uk/SM4/Mutable...

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Have you had coeliac blood test done yet

Are you now on strictly gluten free diet

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Megymoo in reply toSlowDragon

No I haven’t had any tests like that

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toMegymoo

Reread the last four replies in previous post healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

GP should test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Anyone diagnosed with autoimmune thyroid disease should have coeliac blood test done

you have high antibodies this is known by medics here in UK as autoimmune thyroid disease.

Technically it’s Hashimoto's (with goitre) or Ord’s thyroiditis (no goitre).

Both variants are autoimmune and more commonly just called Hashimoto’s

Hashimoto's frequently affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function with Hashimoto’s can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but a further 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal

Before considering trial on gluten free diet get coeliac blood test done FIRST just to rule it out

Request coeliac blood test via GP

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If you test positive for coeliac, will need to remain on gluten rich diet until endoscopy (officially 6 weeks wait)

If result is negative can consider trialing strictly gluten free diet for 3-6 months. Likely to see benefits. Can take many months for brain fog to lift.

If no obvious improvement, reintroduce gluten see if symptoms get worse.

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2018/04/3-re...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/300...

The obtained results suggest that the gluten-free diet may bring clinical benefits to women with autoimmune thyroid disease

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

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A TSH between 0.2 and 0.5 and free T4 and free T3 in the top third of their ranges are where most patients feel well according to Dr Toft an eminent endocrinologist. So I’d say your TSH is far too high and you need a dose increase until those numbers are fulfilled, &/or you start feel well again. Thyroid U.K. admin can give you a copy of the article and you need to show your doctor question. 6. He was surgeon to the Queen so you can drop that in to gain some purchase too.

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shawsAdministrator in reply toTSH110

I believe Dr Toft was only consulted when the Queen was in Scotland.

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TSH110

Yes that’s true, but it means he was trusted with overseeing the health of the monarch, albeit only when she ventured into Scotland (I think she went there a fair bit) and my point was what’s good enough for Her Maj is good enough for us! I doubt a GP would know who he is or if she was only his responsibility in Scotland, judging from their usual knowledge of thyroid disease which does not seem very attuned to attention to detail. Not this one anyway, saying that far too high TSH was fine on thyroid hormones, when it is in fact complete rubbish.

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