diogenes in print

[helvella]

I was browsing The Chemist and Druggist from 3rd August 1985 and on page 214 happened across the photo and the text as above/below. For anyone who does not know, "our" diogenes is none other than Dr John Midgley:

Amersham International scientists Dr John Midgeley and Dr Terry Wilkins have won the 1985 Prince of Wales award for industrial innovation. The result was announced on BBC's Tommorrow's World recently. The two scientists devised a more accurate method of measuring the level of thyroid hormones in the blood.

[Yes - they could not spell Tomorrow! Nor Midgley.]

diogenes

[radd]

Hey, nice to be able to put a face to that person who contributes so much. I'll just have to imagine it 35 years later.

ps 🤔 do people really just go browsing 35 year old editions of The Chemist and Druggist! You know you never fail to impress me Helvella 😄

[humanbean in reply to radd]

You don't have to imagine what diogenes currently looks like or even what he sounds like - you can find him discussing thyroid treatment in this video.

youtube.com/watch?v=y99UDJI...(Not working as expected?)

[radd in reply to humanbean]

Thank you hb.

[helvella in reply to radd]

Yes - they do!

You too can join in - I have collected much relevant to thyroid patients and posted here:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[radd in reply to helvella]

1859!! ... 🧐 ... must be dem mushrooms.

😁😘

[Levo50]

This is so 😎

[jsy_girl]

Ahhh this explains a lot! Amazing.

[Ernest2]

Happy Days!

You must win this year's dedication award for your browsing efforts.

Many thanks for all that you do and share.

Ernest

[DippyDame]

This underlines how hugely fortunate we are to have our diogenes on board..... but we all know that already!

Thank you helvella for all you do for us.

[helvella in reply to DippyDame]

Fully agreed.

In my view, the failure of thyroid medicine, which we see reported all too often, emphasises the need for the scientists, the medical practitioners, and the patients to actually have the interaction diogenes (both in person, and with the help the rest of his colleagues) provides here.

Interaction between patients and consultants is particularly unhappy. Yet it is beyond clear that even endocrinologists know that there are problems which need to be addressed.

[DippyDame in reply to helvella]

I get a sense from reading daily posts that things are getting worse for thyroid patients....if that is possible.

The medics must listen to the scientists, otherwise, for the foreseeable future, all we can do is dream.

It feels like a travesty of justice!

It seems that nobody has the clout (or the will) to instigate reform.....yet the facts necessitating reform are clear.

[helvella in reply to DippyDame]

Much of the interaction between patients and doctors takes places in consultations - which are inappropriate for wider discussions. And, all too often, deeply disappointing to the patients.

(Mind, some of the doctors might also be very disappointed. Some, at least, understand things are bad and need to be changed.)

But how can patients have a wide ranging, deep, and thoughtful discussion with doctors? One where anger on both sides is kept in check. And the best of the science is presented and appreciated.

[LindaC in reply to helvella]

💚🎶☘️ - Totally!

[diogenes Remembering]

Hmm. I looked like a Mafioso then because I wore Reactolite Spctacles which of course reacted as soon as we came outside from Highgrove.This year of 85 was a very large curate's egg. The honour of receiving the prize was accompanied by falling foul of our management's determination to test a new diagnostic system before it was ready, I remember with some horror the task of taking unsuitable instruments to clinical triallists, and hearing of both instrumental failure to produce anything worthwhile or even bursting into flames. It injured my reputation as well as the company's and I left fairly soon after, no longer believing in the company I worked for, with its new, ignorant but arrogant management expecting impossible things by impossible dates.

[LindaC in reply to diogenes]

Nice pic! Were those the mid-1980s immunometric assay [technique] tests?

[diogenes Remembering in reply to LindaC]

They were!

[LindaC in reply to diogenes]

Recently included in 'a piece of work' stating, that the older 1960's (Robert? Utiger et al?) tests were superceded by the immunometric assay technique, but STILL where clinical judgement is required.

[NieuwOndaatje]

Thank you, Helvella. So much more Thyroid related logic and patient sense from Diogenes than I've read anywhere else over many years of searching for answers and now, finally, it all makes perfect sense! And also a great insight into the realms that our Administrators go in their search for more knowledge. It's thirsty work for sure and I first wondered whether stumbling across "The Chemist and Druggist" might have been a welcome rest at a local establishment licensed to serve ales and other beverages, wines and spirits!

[helvella in reply to NieuwOndaatje]

There's a number of cafes, restaurants and pubs around called something like that! Including one in Zagreb, Croatia. I'll have to try to find one that is considerably closer.