HI, been on a few times, I have a confusing symptom that I dont know if anybody can shed any light on. Firstly i'm getting weird bicep spasms so theres that, but the main question is related to my Hashimotos, or is it, my TPO levels were high which my endocrinologist said was most likely hashi, which other doctors have supported, but another marker for that is weight gain, and i am losing weight FAST
I do have a swallowing problem which limits certain foods but i've been eating alot more lately to try to compensate for lack of breadstuffs, biscuits, cakes, pizza etc.
the rapid weight loss seems to lend more weight to a possibility of graves disease, so i guess the main question is, can I have high TPO and graves disease?
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Am seeing my gp on friday and will ask for it.. I'm losing weight fast. 11kg in under a year and 2 in last 2 weeks eating well.. I'm not going to the gym at mo so that makes a difference but even so..
Hashimoto's frequently affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels
Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working
What vitamin supplements are you currently taking
When were vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 last tested?
Important to maintain GOOD vitamin levels
Poor gut function with Hashimoto’s can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.
According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)
Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies
While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first
The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported
In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned
Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.
Yes, it is possible to have TPO antibodies (and thyroglobulin antibodies) with graves disease.
Difficulties in swallowing is a classic symptom of a Hashi attack as could be a goitre (lump) or inflamed thyroid tissue. If you are experiencing a Hashi attack the symptoms could be similar to graves disease, ie weight loss, increased appetite, rapid heartbeat, heat intolerance.
For a graves diagnosis you will need to be tested for antibodies TSI (Thyroid Stimulating Immunolglobulin) and/or TSHRab (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone Receptor) but firstly having a comprehensive thyroid hormone test (TSH, FT4,FT3) as Slow Dragon has suggested will give you and your doctor more idea of what is going on.
Thankyou. Truth is I feel pretty fed up, I keep losing weight, I've had enlarged thyroid for almost a year, my dysmotility means if takes an hour to finish a meal and having disequilibrium sucks.. I cant get more than 6 hours kip no matter what I try and it's often 5 or less.. ta for asking..
The effects of Hashimotos that is inadequately treated can be far reaching and both dysmotility and disequilibrium could be a result of. When first medicating thyroid hormone replacement I suffered terrible vertigo & tinnitus, but after addressing nutrient deficiencies and all gut issues, meds began working better and both slowly disappeared.
Thanks.. I've been on levo for many years with no extra obvious symptoms but only really now am I getting all this other stuff so I dont know if it's to do with meds.. I've also had some panic attacks since all this started.. but I seem to be winning that one battle.
Panic attacks and anxiety can be also connected via too much adrenal activity (cortisol, adrenaline, etc) that are supporting compromised thyroid hormones. Are you menopausal or going through any hormonal changes that could have exacerbated your symptoms?
A good read is 'Your Thyroid and How To Keep It Healthy' by Dr Barry Durrant Peatfield that explains how everything ties together, and a prudent first step would be to get all thyroid hormone levels tested.
Just thyroiditis. And the stress that came with having nodules and suddenly not being able to swallow properly.. and the lack of answers for everything.. I've had brain scans, mri scans for neck.. swallow tests.. still no answers..
Many thyroid patients find its associated with low Ft3
It frequently disappears completely when thyroid patient gets prescribed T3 alongside levothyroxine
You need to get TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 tested together
Cheapest option is via Monitor My Health
Remember to stop taking vitamin B complex a week before ALL Blood tests as biotin can falsely affect test results
Thyroid testing should always be done as early as possible in morning before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test
yes, mine has been looked at and called a dysmotility, it has been identified that my swallowing system does not work properly anymore, there is a malfunction in how the 3 parts of my swallowing connect, but as yet they can't tell me why.
It was my sudden swallowing issue that first caused me to go to the doctor cos food was getting stuck all the time and that is not fun!! in looking at that they found my nodules and thyroiditis, disequilibrium followed about 4 months later.
It is believed by all physicians I have seen that the swallowing is unrelated to thyroid and may not be fixable.
I have been advised by you guys to get the t3 test but also advised I should not do it yet as I have started taking new supplements such as the recommended igennus b complex vitamin.
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