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Relationship between hypothyroidism blood pressure and temperature

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A while back a poster mentioned that a doctor explained to her how to tell if thyroid medication dosage is appropriate based on daily temperature, blood pressure and pulse. Can someone please direct me to this post because I can’t find it. Thank you for your help,

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Don't remember the post, but can say that low body temperature is a symptom of Hypothyroidism. Also my blood pressure was low before diagnosis.

I presently have low (ish) pulse but raised blood pressure.

The GP agrees with me that the low pulse is most likely a symptom of being Hypo.

Always take temperature if concerned, first thing early morning. Mine's beeen between 35.1 and 35.5 recently.

Has been 35 and 34.9 in the past.

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You could check out the "Related Posts" that have come up at the bottom of the page (although none fit exactly). Could it have been a reply on someone's post ?

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Meadowsmom in reply to Mary-intussuception

Thank you!

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Tugun in reply to Mary-intussuception

Hi,

Where was the thermometer placed - orally, armpit, ear etc.? Many Thanks

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Mary-intussuception in reply to Tugun

Usually under tongue, which is as read. If taking underarm remember to add 1.

I don't know about ear, don't have one of those thermometers - guessing they're expensive?

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Tugun in reply to Mary-intussuception

Hi - Probably - I don't have an ear one either. I tried a couple of forehead ones but didn't feel that they gave an accurate temperature.

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Mary-intussuception in reply to Tugun

I use a digital thermometer which I bought from a small Pharmacy ( cheaper than Boots!).

Didn't think the forhead strips were accurate either.

My husband got a replacement battery on the Internet. So it's still working ok!

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Leharv

Hello I posted about my experiences and findings about a week maybe two ago. Nothing to do with doctors, just from my own observations, doctors haven't a clue and give bad advice.

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Leharv

Started with a reply to a post by Kailey 99, 11 days ago subject, levothyroxine withdrawal.

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Meadowsmom in reply to Leharv

Thank you!

Hi Meadowsmom that might have been me. A while back I posted about using your pulse pressure to determine over medication. I was cold This Is How They checked medication dosage before blood test were so common like during World War II. You take your blood pressure and subtract the bottom number from the top number. For example if your blood pressure is 135 / over 85 that number would be 50. This number is called your post pressure you can Google it and read that hyper causes higher pulse pressure and hypo lower pulse pressure. Then you take 50 and multiply it by your pulse so if you're pulse is 70 beats a minute 50 * 70 is 3500. The doctor explained that if that number is 3200 or over the they knew to cut the medication a little bit. This has proven very true for me as last year when I was overmedicated quite often my number was well over 3,200 sometimes over 4,200. In my healing process I have had no medication since January 1 and it looks like I'm actually undermedicated now as my number is generally around 2,500 sometimes lower. My pulse pressure has gone from the 50s to the twenties and thirties now. My story is I went gluten-free two years ago, started absorbing much more medicine and slowly got very very overmedicated. So working with a specialist now to try to get back to normal and it has really been horrible once you're overmedicated healing process takes 6 to 16 months based on severity that is what I'm told. My temperature was extremely low during my overmedicated months I'm from us but it would get as low as 96 we're 98.6 is normal. Now it is routinely around 98. My symptoms have shifted slowly from horrible hyper symptoms to standard hypo symptoms. My lab numbers are staying in range but just barely in range and we think I will need a small dose sooner or later but we are waiting this out as my body continues to adjust.

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Sorry at the top that should be I was told not I was cold! Although I am often cold LOL

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wanttobenormalnow in reply to

3200 and over is considered Hyper. So what is the baseline number for being hypo?

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I dont know what the number is for hypo only that over 3,200 would indicate a cut in medicine needed

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wanttobenormalnow in reply to

I tried googling post pressure, but I can't find anything on thyroid!

Might you have a link you can post?

in reply to wanttobenormalnow

I am sorry that is a typo should be pulse pressure!!

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wanttobenormalnow in reply to

"My temperature was extremely low during my overmedicated months I'm from us but it would get as low as 96 we're 98.6 is normal. Now it is routinely around 98." I thought if we have too much TH (thyroid hormone) that would make our temperatures rise and make us hot all the time, but your temperature was lower? And have you been able to get on the right dose finally? Did it align with the pulse pressure calculation?

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I know it seems odd set my temperature was lower but that was the case. I've learned recently that it is in fact low thyroxine which is T4 that causes the temperature to be low. But yes since coming off too much medicine finally after many months my temperature is normal and my pulse pressure is actually low. I have had no thyroid medicine since January because my labs are staying in range and as long as I'm in range my medical doctor won't prescribe. But I am feeling very hypo and numbers could be better so I'm looking for a new doctor to help get this right!

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wanttobenormalnow in reply to

What type of medicine were you taking when you were getting too much?

in reply to wanttobenormalnow

I was on 75mxg Synthroid and 20mc Cytomel.

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svedderfamily

That is very interesting. My integrative doctor who is now retired used muscle testing to determine initial ndt dose. Then gave instructions to take your pulse once/day after sitting/resting for 10 mins (no phone or electronics) approx 2 hrs after morning dose. Pulse rate of over 88 and you are over medicated. (Close to 88 was fine.) And/or if your hand shakes when you put a normal sized sheet of paper on the back of your hand and hold out your arm- this meant over medicated too. Best wishes.

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Meadowsmom in reply to svedderfamily

Interesting. What pulse rate indicates that the dose is too low? Thanks.

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LAHs in reply to Meadowsmom

I would be concerned if it dropped below 45 bpm regardless of what else is going on.

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Mary-intussuception in reply to Meadowsmom

If resting pulse is 70, then I would think a regular, morning, resting pulse varying between early 50's and early 60's should be reported to GP.

in reply to Meadowsmom

I don't know!

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svedderfamily

Hmm. Since the doctor determined the "start dose" each year by muscle testing, I don't think that ever was discussed but my guess would be that your pulse would be on the low side if hypo. At least mine was before starting meds.

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humanbean

Does this help?

drrind.com/therapies/metabo...

I've never done this myself but some people have found it helpful, I think.

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Meadowsmom

Thank you, very useful info.

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Sheilak

Paul Robinson had written a few books and blogs and a Facebook page on thyroid. His book "Recovering With T3" book talks about taking temperature, heart-rate, and I think blood pressure in order to get the right dose of Cytomel or T3 if you are changing thyroid meds and want to try Cytomel. I changed my thyroid medications to mostly taking T3 so used his information and it works! Even having a rapid heartbeat sometimes can mean you are low thyroid or too high of thyroid meds. When my blood pressure goes high, for me it means I am hypothyroid. Anyway consider looking him up in order to continue your education on optimal thyroid levels.

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