I’m 54 I was born with psoriasis and was diagnosed with hypothyroidism when I was 46. Have I got hashimotos then? I’m confused 🤷‍♀️

[higheruniverse]

Is treatment for hashimotos the same as treatment for hypothyroidism?

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

higheruniverse

Hashi's is confirmed by raised thyroid peroxidase/thyroglubulin antibodies. Have you had these tests?

Also can be confirmed by ultrasound scan I believe.

There is no treatment for Hashi's. The antibodies gradually destroy the thyroid and it's the resulting hypothyroidism that's treated.

Some people find that a gluten free diet helps reduce antibodies, also supplementing with selenium l-selenomethionine can help reduce them.

[higheruniverse in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thank you SeasideSusie, no I’ve not had those tests. I’ll ask my doctor I’m due a blood test for my thyroid.

I’ll look at selenium and I’m gluten free

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Psoriasis is autoimmune as is Hashimoto's

Once we have one autoimmune disease, it's more likely to have another

Recent research suggests all autoimmune disease begins with the gut

I was born with psoriasis. Hashimoto's not diagnosed until age 34. Only finally confirmed gluten intolerant age 57!

Gastroenterologist said only a tiny percentage with silent gluten intolerance or silent coeliac are ever diagnosed

Medics have no treatment specific to Hashimoto's, only the resulting hypothyroidism. Most are unaware of the gut connection at all

Getting vitamins tested regularly and most likely regular supplementing to keep optimal can make significant difference

Gut function is often compromised

Four main ones to test are vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Other ones to consider testing zinc, selenium, magnesium

[higheruniverse in reply to SlowDragon]

Thank you for that great info

[HughH in reply to higheruniverse]

Dr Broda Barnes was one of the greatest thyroid experts of the 20th century and dedicated more than fifty years of his life to researching, teaching and treating thyroid and related endocrine dysfunctions. In his book “Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness” he describes how he cured a man with life long psoriasis using thyroid hormones.

Vitamin D insufficiency is associated with many other diseases including psoriasis.

Low vitamin D and low thyroid hormones can cause very similar actions and symptoms. If both are low then health will suffer a real “double whammy”.

[higheruniverse in reply to HughH]

I live in Spain so I get daily sunshine 🌞

[HughH in reply to higheruniverse]

To get the benefits of sunshine you need to expose a lot of skin and it needs UVB which is strongest from 10am – 2pm. Vitamin D is formed in the oil on the skin and needs to be absorbed so if you come back from sunbathing and have a shower you lose most of it. Also sun creams interfere with it.

So even in Spain it is probably easier to take a supplement!

A daily supplement of around 5,000 IU (125 mcg) of vitamin D3 is needed for most people. There is no danger in taking this amount. The 2010 US Institute of Medicine (IOM) report indicates 10,000 IU/day is considered the NOAEL (no observed adverse effect level).

Taking 5,000 IU and getting a bit of sun will still be ok.

[higheruniverse in reply to HughH]

Thank you for that info

[penny in reply to higheruniverse]

Dr Coimbra treats psoriasis with very high doses of Vit D and has done so for 20 years.

[higheruniverse in reply to HughH]

I’m taking 1000iu (25up) vitamin d3 is that enough?

[HughH in reply to higheruniverse]

No you need a much larger amount.

A daily supplement of around 5,000 IU (125 mcg) of vitamin D3 is needed for most people. There is no danger in taking this amount. The 2010 US Institute of Medicine (IOM) report indicates 10,000 IU/day is considered the NOAEL (no observed adverse effect level).

Taking 5,000 IU and getting a bit of sun will still be ok.

There is good information on:

vitamindsociety.org/benefit...

[Donnaca in reply to higheruniverse]

Chaga mushroom extract (you drink it or take pills) relieves psoriasis, they did a trial on it and 80% improved or it went away. I think it’s to do with how it helps the gut health.

I also use tamanu balm on mine, it’s as good as a steroid cream in my opinion.