Testosterone and thyroid

[FIT2018]

Morning

I just had a medichecks test done for testosterone and I am well low, below range.

Is this likely connected to Thyroid? And will trt interfere with hrt?

Or am I just getting old!?

[PamBow]

Hi FIT2018,

I have been advised to pop over to this site from the Pernicious Anaemia forum.

I was interested in your posting about testerone level and am wondering about your symptoms for having the test.

I am B12 deficient and also taking Levothyroxin 50mcg. I am feeling very low and losing hair fast.

I am 66years old and all this started about a year ago

I hope you don’t mind my interest in your situation. I hope u get some advice .

[FIT2018 in reply to PamBow]

I have very low libido, find it hard to put on muscle mass despite a professional diet and weight lifting program... and energy levels are not as good as should be. I just assumed that this would affected by UAT, so had the test and hey presto... well under range.

Next issue is getting TRT on the NHS! (distant sound of laughing)

[FIT2018 in reply to PamBow]

I'm also Vit B12/D deficient and on 175mcg of Levo - having tried NDT and not getting on with it. also have huge problems with tinnitus/hearing loss and vertigo - now starting to look at Menieres again, having dismissed this previously.. oh and possible vestibular migraine, which hypo kicks off I believe. A rich tapestry of interconnecting, confusing and debilitating conditions.. but I diligently working through the list, bullying the NHS, privately testing and experimenting, and this testosterone result is part of that quest to achieve optimum healthy. Another primary hormone that should not be defficient! So off to the doctors again... and researching how to get treatment if no joy with GP/Endo.

I'm 54 and very active, and frankly feel blessed that I don't have some of the terrible hypo symptoms I read people suffering from here..

[Caesard]

Might be....Ive also confronted lower FreeT, it was in the lower part of the bottom 3rd of the range (i am 38) when checkec.

Managed to double it in a few months via nutrition, lifestyle, sports and some suppljments (amino acids - carnitine, arginine, citrulline) So, the generally (reasonable)advice found on the web might work/help.

[FIT2018 in reply to Caesard]

Yep, do all that - full on weight training, diet, supplements etc... so I'm probably much more under than the test shows

[PamBow]

Good luck for tomorrow and thank you for your reply.

Pambow

[G2G2]

TRT is HRT, so confused why you think there'd be a conflict.

[FIT2018 in reply to G2G2]

I suppose I meant Testosterone + Thyroid meds - Levo etc

[G2G2 in reply to FIT2018]

There's no problem using testosterone with thyroid meds. Nice that it's transdermal, so doesn't haven't to be spaced hours away from thyroid or other oral meds.

[FIT2018 in reply to G2G2]

OK, thanks, that's good to know

[hashiman]

Hi FIT2018 I have Hashimoto's and have low t as well I was treated for thyroid for probably around 18 months before I started getting treated for low T . Whilst I did feel a tad better on T4 (150 mcg presently) I have to say it wasnt until I started being treated for low t that I noticed a massive difference . Aches and pains gone , general feeling of wellness has returned for the first time in years and mojo is back, dizzy spells and blurry vision has gone(I read an article on the internet once that low t can also cause vertigo but unfortunately I cant find the link to post). I am not perfect (still playing around with frequency of injections) but blimey its nice to feel normal (ish) again. Endo started me on a gel (testogel) which worked brilliantly only problem was my wife , daughter , grandaughter couldnt come into contact with the area's the gel was applied , upper arms and stomach . Testogel supply then became sporadic so gp could only prescribe Testim gel which unfortunately brought me out in a horrible rash , so i am now having nebido injections (on the nhs) every 12 weeks presently but endo / gp think we need to now shorten to every 10 weeks. My only issue now is weight loss / gain , I am gluten free, I train at the gym 3 times a week walk at least an hour every day and mountain bike at least one day most weekends and unfortunately have put on around a stone since I started being treated for Hashimoto's. I have an endo's appointment on Tuesday where I will try to get T3 pescribed into my meds as I've read that without it you will never get weight under control taking t3 alone.

[FIT2018 in reply to hashiman]

Hey, thanks for that insight and information. I appreciate the feedback and I am hoping that my GP will agree that a few of my issues will be addressed with a rebalancing of my Testosterone..not expecting miracles either, but it can't be right to be off the scale under range for this important hormone.. I'll post results and effects as and when I get treatment. many thanks and good luck

[clubby29]

Hi my endo took me off testo gel after 6 months just as a trial apparently because it’s not good to have long term. So next blood test we find out that my testo reading has fell but because I’ve had a birthday I’m at the bottom but still in my new range. Lol. Also told me that people with low testo tend to have low iron as well, it would be good to keep an eye on your iron readings because anemia can make you feel pretty ropey as well

[FIT2018 in reply to clubby29]

Thanks for your reply and info.. I was actually just wondering about long term.. if this is something like Levo, that is for life.. and how best to deal with that practically (its hard enough to get time off for B12 jabs, now Testosterone as well... and also wondering about GP's compliance in putting me on therapy, with medichecks blood tests. I'm a hypnotherapist, so maybe I'll hypnotise her! I also have an appt. with an endo in October, but want to get on with TRT as soon as, so we'll just have to see.

Appreciate you sharing your experience, good luck!

[25joyce in reply to FIT2018]

Hi Chaps sorry to hear your hypothyroidism/ Hashimoto ‘s but due to this our bodies are completely on a go slow we have low energy and labedo doing to much excerising and weight lifting is using all the small amount of energy we are making therefore our muscles are waisting to support heart and brain etc

Have s look on Forfront Health