Any vitamins good to take please?

[thyroidkim]

Having just found this site after having a under active thyroid for the past 26 years can anyone tell me what vitamins are good to take to combat things like hair loss and aching body, thank you

[Mary-intussuception]

Ask your GP for blood tests to check levels of the following nutrients then have any deficiencies treated with prescribed supplements:

Vitamin D, Calcium;

B12, Folate

and Ferritin

Ask for copies of your blood tests results and post on here including the ranges in brackets and dates of tests. Also give details of what supplements prescribed and dosage. Then people can make informed comment.

If you are still having Hypo symptoms then also get copies (print out) of your two most recent Thyroid Function blood tests with ranges, dates, any comments. Also what dose change, if any of, your Levothyroxine.

Do you take your Levothyroxine on its own with water an hour before any food and drink? And no other medications or supplements at the same time.

Never take Multivitamins or multiminerals.

Take a look and Thyroid UK website. Have good read when you've time.

Hope this helps.

[thyroidkim in reply to Mary-intussuception]

oh dear Mary I have none of those and have never asked (so will do now). I take my tablets all different types and then I take all the vitamins with them, NO I don't take without food, Im really not very good am I , no one has ever really told me, I think I have had it for such a long while its only in these past years there have been groups like this, which are great! thank you for your help, Kim

[Mary-intussuception in reply to thyroidkim]

Hey Kim, don't put yourself down. How can you know if no one (from the medical profession ) tells you. Also GPs don't specialise in Endocrinology - and not everyone gets to see an Endocrinologist. Even when we do we don't all get fully informed or fully investigated.

A GP once told me I could take an antibiotic at the same time as my Levothyroxine !!!! Not so !

I was left without diagnosis and treatment for many years. Then after breaking through assumed I would now be properly cared for !! Not so.

No one ever tested for my Vitamin levels. I read it on here last year. Was found to need Vitamin D and Folic Acid supplements. I have numerous digestive tract and very severe bowel conditions which affect my absorption of nutrients and was under Gastroenterologist, Colorectal and other specialists but no one tested nutrients levels. Also have various conditions involving calcifications in places where they shouldn't be and lots of Arthritis but no one tested Vitamin D - until I asked last year.

Adequate Vitamin D is ESSENTIAL for the correct absorption of Calcium. Without enough of it, the calcium goes to the wrong places ie tissue and blood vessels and not enough goes to the bone - where it should go.

Read through some posts on this forum and study Thyroid UK website. We have to research and learn what we can to best help ourselves.

[thyroidkim in reply to Mary-intussuception]

thanks Mary I dare say Im lacking something, my whole body hurts from head to toe, I get up in the morning feeling 87 and Im 57!!!! I will get those checked out, thank you for your help, have a nice day

[Mary-intussuception in reply to thyroidkim]

You too 🌞

I have just edited last reply. I'd pressed reply before finishing!

[greygoose in reply to Mary-intussuception]

Adequate Vitamin D is ESSENTIAL for the correct absorption of Calcium. Without enough of it, the calcium goes to the wrong places ie tissue and blood vessels and not enough goes to the bone - where it should go.

It's vit K2 that assures the calcium goes to the right places, which is why we should always take vit K2 when taking vit D, because vit D increases absorption of calcium from food.

[thyroidkim in reply to greygoose]

wow interesting, thank you!

[greygoose in reply to thyroidkim]

You're welcome.

[thyroidkim in reply to Mary-intussuception]

thanks all very interesting, my legs are killing me today! its been the last few months its got worse

[Jjgregory in reply to thyroidkim]

Magnesium a good quality one for legs sleep and bowel health. These are what i take: glutathione and a glutathione recycler. This is our master master anti oxidant. It declines as we age but also is shot when we are sick for a long time. Trying to build health with depleated glutathione levels is like rearranging chairs on the deck of a sinking ship. Sure you could test your glutathione levels but if youve had thyroid issues youd bet your bank account that your low. Get a good quality one. R lipioc acid is another anti oxidant very helpful to thyroid conditions. I take a high quality b complex, the 3 above, collegan to help my hair as well as msm which is sulphur and a building block of hair. If you dont have it you wont stop hair shed. I take evening primrose oil to counter the effects of straw like hair from hashis. Epo will get your hair soft again in days. I also take dr. Wilsons adrenal builder and a liver detox supplement from peak mountain i think. This is my short list and im feeling pretty good after years of not. If your root cause is viral in nature such as epstein barr virus as mine was, a short bout of higher dose mg iodine can restoreyour cells and kill back the epb thats feeding off your thyroid hornones. My hashis specialist perscribed this and i did it for 6 weeks. I felt incredible and it even allowed me to lower my thyroid meds per blood tests. It helped everything run better from day one at 25mg. I worked up to 100 mg then 200mg every few days. Every cell in our body needs iodine. The cells hold up to 1200 mg in storage alone. The thyroid itself holds 50mg in storage. When our cellls are low virus and disease easily replicate in our cells and spread throighout the body. Taking iodine to cell saturation strengthens the cell wall so it us bulletproof to virus getting through the cell wall to replicate.

[Jjgregory in reply to Jjgregory]

I forgot to mention one of my most important ones! Medulla complex. I was unable to stay awake after taking any t3. Medulla complex is a glandular that restores the medulla which is a part of our brain which handles stress. Its been a life saver to me. I note that i have joint pain and ache all over when i eat gluten and also sugar. Its hard to stop eating them but if you give yourself even a few days off youll see they often make you feel like hell again.

[thyroidkim in reply to Jjgregory]

Wow thank you so much for all the information, its amazing, I have taken in so much of what you said and will study all those subjects now, I appreciate you taking the time to tell me all this and I will report back how I feel, Someone did tell me the other day a gluten free diet is best, Im gonna give it a go!!!

[Jjgregory in reply to thyroidkim]

Yea gluten will cause wrist pain and achiness in joints ususlly within an hour after eating. It starts as a dull ache. For me i just eat protein and veg and orgsnic fruits n this keeps me gf without a lot of fuss. Best to buy orgsnic if you can as many ways they process meats involve gluten! Even bacon and sausage have gluten as fillers.

[thyroidkim in reply to Jjgregory]

thanks very much for the info, Im ok with meat, as I DONT eat meat!!! cant bring myself to do that, that's interesting re the gluten, does pasta and rice and potatoes have it, Im always eating them and I do try to buy organic thank you

[Jjgregory in reply to thyroidkim]

Yea sadly pasta pretty much is gluten. So there is kind of a debate out on why gluten is bad for folks. Some people cite it as badd because the protein in gluten mimics an invader that are auto immune system then responds to which causes us to symptoms such as joint pain from inflammation the body's response to this invader. And other people think that gluten is a problem because much of the pesticides that are sprayed on wheat right before the harvest are actually heavily contaminated to the foods after they are processed. Here in the States, crops that end up in cereals and breads test positive for a terrible insecticide/pesticide called around up which is banned in other countries. These chemicals cause reactions. Even though other countries have banned this particular pesticide, they used their own versions of pesticides and insecticides that are sprayed on the crop to separate the yield crop from the stock. Those crops are then processed and a lot of those pesticides do not wash off better then becoming part of the processed wheat that makes gluten products.

[shaws Administrator]

Welcome to our forum thyroidkim,

The first thing to do is to put in your profile a short history of your thyroid journey, i.e. when diagnosed with what and what thyroid hormone replacement you are taking so it saves you having to answer the same question often..

I am going to give you some links as we have to read, learn and ask questions in order to recover our health and we can, despite the guidelines laid down by the NHS.

Doctors and endocrinologists seem not to be trained well with regard to restoring our health but we can do it ourselves by reading posts and asking questions.

26 years is a long time not to be in tip-top health and still suffering symptoms. Tick off the ones you have:-

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

First, all blood tests for thyroid hormones have to be the very earliest appointment, so always make yours about six weeks ahead as surgeries seem to be very busy nowadays. Blood tests have to always be fasting but some doctors will tell you it doesn't matter but we, the patients, know better, i.e. taking food reduces TSH and that's all they seem to look at as well as the T4.

Levothyroxine is T4 and is an inactive thyroid hormone. It is supposed to convert to T3. T3 also known as levothyroxine is the only Active Thyroid Hormone and it is required in our millions of T3 receptor cells and it drives our whole metabolism from head to toe and heart and brain need the most T3.

You need a Full Thyroid Function test initially. It has to be fasting and if you were/are taking thyroid hormones you'd allow a gap of 24 hours between last dose of levo and the test and take afterwards. Coffee and food interferes with the uptake of thyroid hormones so you must leave a number of hours if you take coffee and 1 hour before eating.

A FTF test (full thyroid function test) is TSH, T4, T3, Free T4, Free T3 and thyroid antibodies. If GP wont do all or the lab, you can get a private one initially and we have two private labs which will do them, following the above procedure and they are pin-prick home tests so make sure you are well-hydrated a few hours before blood draw.

Ask GP to test B12, Vit D, iron, ferritin and folate. Everything has to be optimal in order for thyroid hormones to work effectively.

Get a print-out from the surgery each blood test for your own records and you can post if you have a query. Ranges are very important as comments cannot be made without them. Labs differ in their machines and so do ranges.

I am not medically qualified but am now well through Thyroiduk.org.uk. Many doctors tell us our tests are 'normal' but they don't mean optimal. Optimal is a FT4 and FT3 in the upper part of the range and TSH 1 or lower but they only do TSH and T4 and if somewhere in range they tell us we're on sufficient - untrue.

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[thyroidkim in reply to shaws]

thank you very much, that's really helpful, I think I have been suffering too long without knowing half this stuff, its amazing what you are not told.!!! appreciate it thanks again Kim

[shaws Administrator in reply to thyroidkim]

It is amazing that doctors don't know especially about the clinical symptoms of hypothyroidism, in preference to a blood test which many patients may have in the afternoon when the TSH level is very low as it drops throughout the day and told they don't have a problem.