Thanks in advance guys x
Ferritin- 13-150ng/mL 31
Folate- 3.9-26.8/mL 4
Vit D- <25nmol/L -deficient
25-50- insufficient
50-75- adequate
>75 optimal
Mine is 42.7. I have a homozygous gene for VDR-taq as I looked up my raw data last week.
Doctor put no action on them all despite knowing I'm still poorly.
Sorry can't read folate, ferritin
Can't see a TSH, FT3 or FT4 or B12 result
Can only read magnesium and full blood count results
Is that any better? I have b12 injections and just sent off my thyroid medichecks this am 
All done
Lillie23
Again, like SlowDragon, I can only read magnesium and FBC and that's on my PC's big screen. There's nothing amiss there so why not either remove this photo and submit a new one showing only the other results to see if they are then readable, or type out the results.
Any better?
Still can't read them ....sorry
Can you just type up results and ranges for
Vitamin D
Folate
Ferritin
B12
TSH
FT3
FT4
TPO and TG antibodies
Also helpful if say exactly what supplements you take
Lillie
They're very feint.
Is your ferritin 31? If so that is very low, it should be half way through range.
Is folate 4? Again very low, it should be at least half way through range. As you're having B12 injections you should be taking a B complex, preferable one containing methylfolate rather than folic acid.
What's your Vit D result, I can't see one, just the categories.
Done it
Lillie
I don't know anything about the homozygous gene for VDR-taq but your Vit D level is too low at 42.7nmol/L, the Vit D Council recommends a level of 100-150nmol/L.
You haven't said whether you take any supplements. If not then for ferritin you can help raise your level by eating liver regularly, maximum 200g per week due to it's high Vit A content, and including lots of iron rich foods in your diet apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/in...
and for folate a good B complex containing 400mcg methyfolate such as Thorne Basic B (1 capsule) or Igennus Super B (2 tablets).
Vitamins and minerals I bought last year but just stopped taking.
Boots vit D- 25ug- one a day it says
Boots vit B complex- one a day
Boots zinc- 10mg- one a day
Boots magnesium-375mg- two a day
Boots selenium-one a day
Oh I couldn't have liver! I have such a rubbish diet atm- don't fancy stuff, fruit etc expensive, veg I like makes me ill.
Lillie
I know they're cheap, and usually on 3 for 2, but there are much better supplements out there. Boots, H&B and supermarket own brands are renowned for using the cheapest and least absorbable forms of ingredients, so they are cheap for a reason.
Vit D - for your level of 42.7nmol then you need more like 5000iu daily. Your supplement is just 1000iu and is a maintenance dose. I would take 5000iu daily for a couple of months then retest. When you've reached the recommended level (100-150nmol/L) then you'll need a maintenance dose which may be 2000iu daily, maybe more or less, maybe less in summer than winter, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range. You can do this with a private fingerprick blood spot test with City Assays vitamindtest.org.uk/
As you have Hashi's then an oral spray would be best for better absorption. BetterYou do a 3000iu dose so you could do, say, 6000iu daily for 6 weeks, then 3000iu daily for 6 weeks then retest.
There are important cofactors needed when taking D3 as recommended by the Vit D Council -
vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...
D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.
D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.
Magnesium helps D3 to work and comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds
naturalnews.com/046401_magn...
Check out the other cofactors too.
B Complex - this contains cyanocobalamin form of B12 and the methylcobalamin form is best, and folic acid whereas methylfolate is best. The amounts of the active ingredients are rather low so you probably aren't getting much benefit from them.
Zinc - really should be balanced with copper so testing is best before supplementing.
Magnesium - their own brand is the Oxide form which is the cheapest and least absorbable.
Selenium - theirs is the selenite form which, along with the selenate form, are the least absorbable. Selenium l-selenomethionine is the best form, or yeast bound selenium.
As for not eating liver, there are plenty of other iron rich foods you could include in your diet.
Unfortunately they weren't that cheap and for what they are seems a bit of a con!
Thankyou for your time with this :).
So I know I need the D3 spray- especially as I have the gene where I don't absorb enough etc.
So you are also saying I need a K vitamin too?
And is a magnesium spray best too? As I suffer with fatigue I don't want it to knock me out!
Selenium is best from a website like health monthly or something else?
I did ask for zinc to be tested but it hasn't come back- do I definitely need a zinc supplement?
Thankyou so much for helping me x
Is this one better as it has K2 in it aswell? Or not enough? betteryou.com/vitamin-d-k2
Lillie
Yes the BetterYou spray is well recommended here, and the one which includes K2 means you don't have to get a separate supplement for that.
Magnesium is needed as it helps the body use D3. I didn't like the spray, nor the oil, I just don't like the feel of it on my skin, so I take magnesium in the citrate form (I need the help with bowels) and I buy Natural Calm Original powder from Amazon and mix it to make a small drink with orange juice.
Health Monthly is a good website, I also use Bodykind, Dolphin Fitness, BigVits, Lifestyle Labs. Dolphin Fitness seem to be the cheapest if they have what you want, and there is the option of free postage.
Zinc should be half way through range, so if it comes back low then it would help to supplement. If it's higher than that there's no real need.
Right goung to order vitamin d and k spray and magnesium oil spray (I have dry skin so should work okay). It's just stressing me trying to find the right selenium! Is this one too cheap? Or not good coz the yeast won't be gluten free?
healthmonthly.co.uk/natural...
Sorry just struggling
Most people will go for Selenium l-selenomethionine as it is the most absorbable. A yeast bound selenium is as absorbable as the l-selenomethionine but it can affect people who have problems with yeast, eg Candida. So that may be a consideration for you. I only know of one yeast bound selenium that is said to be suitable for "Vegetarians, vegans and for people with Candida and yeast sensitivities" and that is this one
It's often on 3 for 2, they do have that offer frequently and I believe it may be coming up next in July. This is the one I use and it is a small tablet with no odour.
If you want something cheaper, have a look at this one from Dolphin Fitness
dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/nat... it's Selenium (as L-selenomethionine) - 200 mcg and the only other ingredients are the capsule made of gelatin and cellulose. Delivery is free if you spend £10, you might find something else to buy, they sell oodles of stuff, not just supplements.
Thankyou Susie, just finding it a bit overwhelming. Also noticed that the vit D spray with K2 only lasts a month. They recommend just one spray a day but can I still do 2 even though it has k2 in? So will only last half a month. Instead I could buy a 3000 vit D spray by itself too? Thanks again kind person
The amount of K2 needed for up to 10,000iu D3 is 90-100mcg, so if you double dosed on the spray you'd be getting 50mcg more than you need. However, it would only be for a short time then you go down to one spray a day so there's unlikely to be a problem for those few weeks.
Then next time I order I'll order one of both- a 3000 vit D and a 3000 vit D with k2? I'm sure it will take me a while to get my levels up so not too worried about having too much vit D. Otherwise if it's bad having too much I'll get a 1000 vit D instead to take alongside? X
You don't need to reduce the amount of D3 until you reach the recommended level of 100-150nmol,so you'll be fine a with the 3000iu one for the next few weeks. Retest after 3 months as I suggested then reassess.
Ah okay so do 6000 for a few weeks (until bottle runs out) as a stat dose then reduce to 3000 a day? Sorry brain fog lol x
No. Go back and read my reply further up, the one after you listed your Boots supplements, my reply outlined what dose of Vit D, for how many weeks etc.
Found it thanks- Okay 6 weeks of 6000 then 6 weeks of 3000. So double the K2 will be okay for 6 weeks right?
It's not double. You're only taking 50mcg extra, 150mcg K2 with 2 sprays, whereas normal dose of K2 is 100mcg. And it's only for 6 weeks.
Right okay thankyou I just thought because it was double D3. Sorry for bothering you so much. How long do you expect to see results-probably a piece of string. Maybe in 6 weeks my fatigue might be better? Sent off my thyroid medichecks bloods today and my cortisol should be coming in the post tomorrow
Impossible to say how long.
I raised my severely deficient Vit D level of 15 to about 190 in 2.5 months but I was using D3 softgels, I don't have Hashi's and no absorption problems.
Just retest after the 12 weeks then you can reassess.
Oh, haha. Oh dear. Should be fun! Will get GP to. Thanks so much. Sorry if I have annoyed you. Hope you sleep well 😊
If GP won't, and many won't retest due to cost, do it with City Assays linked to above, home fingerprick blood spot test for £29, you must have the new level to know how much to take as a maintenance dose.
Vitamins from online suppliers are much better quality
Igennus Super B or Jarrow B-right are good quality for B complex
If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 3-5 days before any blood tests, as biotin can falsely affect test results
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endocrinenews.endocrine.org...
Aiming to improve to around 100nmol. Vitamin D mouth spray by Better You is good as avoids poor gut function. Suggest you try 3000iu for 2-3 months and retest. It's trial and error what dose each person needs. Once you Improve level, very likely you will need on going maintenance dose to keep it there. Retesting twice yearly via vitamindtest.org.uk
Also read up on importance of magnesium and vitamin K2 Mk7 supplements when taking vitamin D
articles.mercola.com/sites/...
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Ferritin is also too low. Eating liver pate once a week should help improve, if you can't face liver .
Calm vitality magnesium powder is cheap and easy to use. Starting on low dose, as too much can cause diarrhoea
Oh my God this is going to be so expensive :(. Do the drs just not comment on them being low so they don't have to give you supplements? I take it those two b complexes are the ones to get? Are there any more good ones? As I have b12 jabs I don't need to worry about the b12 part of it much. Nope, never ever have had pate in any form yuck. I'll have to look into other options.
I have bought from health monthly before- the jarrow one is out of stock. Can you recommend any others please?
Sorry to be such a pain. I really appreciate your help x
Actually one of the reasons you need B complex is the B12 from injections doesn't last long.....and levels dip significantly between jabs
Igennus full daily dose is two per day, try just one per day and see how you go
You only need one B complex
Igennus at two tablets per day - £8.99 a month or half that if take one per day
Jarrow B right £20 for 100 tablets
Thorne £9.30 a month
Thanks again
What websites do you use as I've found igennus for £11.99?
Amazon
I am going to get a spray as soon as I can! Wouldn't it be a miracle if getting this up to optimal will help me with my fatigue! I'm excited but can't be too enthusiastic I know.
Thankyou so much for your time and input
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