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Tsh still 0.05 lab range 0.35 to 5.50(this is the same as 1st bloods with same lab ranges)

Free3 now 5.3 lab range 3.50-6.50(1st bloods was 10.4 lab the same)

Free 4 now 17.9 lab range11.00-23.00(1st bloods was 26.9 lab range the same) 1st bloods taken 4 weeks ago.

I will get full print out on tuesday, but im panicking cos i feel no where near well yet, what do tbese readings indicate am i still hyper, will he reduce meds or increase? I also have had my endoc appointment cancelled in octoberand being transferred to another hospital where they do lipids? I thought it was my thyroid?, lady on phone and said doesnt know why only no lipid centre at wolverhampton.

Please advice.xx

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No. These results look normal for someone who has previously been hyper. FT3 and FT4 are well within range - sometimes TSH never really comes back up or not for a long time after the frees drop - or so I've heard. GP might still want to reduce dose though - do you feel hypo or hyper? Do you have a thyroid? If not, TSH shouldn't matter as thyroid cancer patients are expected to have a suppressed TSH and no one worries about it.

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Yes i still have thyroid but still feel slightly shaky palpy on exertion and still breathless. Just worried i will still see endoc and still get bloods regulary yes? Been told doc wont take me off meds as that was my inital thought.

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How are your vitamin levels? Low iron and B12 can make you breathless. I had those symptoms when really hypo perhaps because of adrenal issues (NHS don't really recognise those), so hang in there as it gets hard to tell what's causing symptoms and the bloods often look good before you feel better.

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My ferritin was very low end 4 weeks ago it was 24 lab range 20.00-200 ive started taking solgars gentle iron 20mgs but do you think that will make any difference or ask doc for injections. Folatevwas 5.9 lab 3 to 20. B12 was top end 608 lab180-640. What do you suggest.

The TSH is lower than normal. The other test results re ferritin are at the lower range of normal.

B12 is in the upper range. Other vitamins essential to the absorption of iron are folic acid and the other vitamins b1 2 3 6 9 (Vitamin B but this is manufactured and is not the same as folates which are found in foods such as dark green leafy vegetables including cabbage spinach. The other vitamin which helps bone and absorption in the colon is vitamin D. There are three types of vitamin D. D3 is made in the body but can be found in drops sold by super drugs, online and may be in their shops. These drops are absorbed by the tongue rather than swallowed and digested in food. Suggest you look at the website concerning pernicious anaemia. Foods which harm your iron uptake are tannin rich foods

such as tea, coffee, beer, red wine. I have removed my tannins from tea and coffee as they are

carbons - the tea and coffee are roasted which gives their dark colour. Some tannins are added to other food in fruit squash and in dark bread. These are made from wood. Some teas have fluoride in them particularly those made in supermarkets. Typhoo and Twining teas are free from

fluoride and some teas such as green tea may be ok. I tried several brands but could taste other chemicals in these teas. I found all our mugs had black staining whilst drinking tannins in tea.

Weak coffee in powder form is ok though for me.

As your results are incomplete with your thyroid globulins - if these are very high, then

you may have a different type of thyroid illness Hashimotos. I read today that 90 percent of Hashimotos sufferers have coeliac disease. The option is to stop eating gluten.

B6 deficiency is prevalent and goes undiagnosed. I have not looked up foods which has this vitamin but marmite has the main b vitamin complex. If you look at the half moons on your fingers and nails this can indicate vitamin deficiency.

The lipids are to do with fats but this is a complex subject which may affect your digestion.

The b vitamin deficiency with low iron uptake can lead to anaemia and breathlessness.

If you find it difficult to lift anything or any activity with exertion, it may be to do with angina which causes breathlessness. Think you are slowly getting there but you need advice from administrators and contributors such as Marz, and Dang who are some of the most informative contributors. Radd is also a good contributor.

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Thankyou gadgrangtg, dont think it is angina as that causes pain in chest, breathlessness is not just there on exertion is is always there as i really do think i have thyroid nodules irritating my windpipe/trachea also have swallowing problems and a cough with it. Drinking water is a nightmare sonetimes and neck hurts. Ivevhad advice from clutter and she said ask fir a ultrasound scan on tuesday as they have cancelled my appointment again. She also said they probably would keep my meds the same until i see endoc. I will see doc on tuesday but i spoke to receptionist and she did say they never done my antibodies has they were not applicable.. cant believe that!! Still get palpy abit and out of breath on exertion but tgey did say on tuesday that heartvwas still beating abit too fast. Ive heard that sometimes the tbyroid interferes with cholestreal levels. Havevhad around 5 ecg's since being diagnosed and they are all fine.i am celiac i think ive told you before its been confirmedin bloods but not by stomach biopsy yet. Its been suggested that i have antibodies done privatley as i dont know why they think its not the done thing. I will get them done off my back as i think this is what most people have done.shal ii ask doc about ml ferritin levels as currently just taking 20mgs of solgars gentle iron. X

Please take a look at a website verywell.com.

It explains everything you need to know about your coeliac disease and gluten, and how

your intestines when you have coeliac disease deprive you of vitamins because the digestive system makes you prone to vitamin deficiencies. As many cereals are fortified when you go gluten free you may already have a vitamin deficiency and this gets worse when you go gluten free.

Iron deficiency is common with coeliac disease Symptoms from iron deficiency anaemia if left untreated in coeliac disease gives fatigue weakness shortness of breath feeling cold rapid pulse and palpitations.

Coeliac disease can give you brain fog depression joint painful joints.

Some people can't digest lactase when they have coeliac disease but when you go gluten free

dairy is more able to be digested.

|B6 is crucial to fight fatigue and infection found in tuna salmon chicken breast and turkey - one fifth of daily requirement is found in a medium banana. People with coeliac disease are often deficient in B6.

Folates are found in spinach asparagus brussel sprouts and cabbage. Half a cup of black eyed peas will give you a quarter of what you need each day.

Vitamin d absorption is prevalent with coeliac disease. found in cold water fish trout? egg yolk yoghurt and milk. Vitamin d3 can be found in drops from superdrug.

calcium in dairy food

B12 in beef tukey pork soybeans legumes

Lack of absorption of calcium even if you eat plenty can cause osteoarthritis as coelic disease

prevents you from absorbing it properly.

Your ferritine levels are low. This may be due to coeliac disease or B6 deficiency. When you go gluten free this might improve dramatically - but you may still have to supplement with vitamins

or make sure you eat enough of the right foods. This is hard as to gain the necessary amount of some vitamins you might have to eat large portions of beans or greens to get your daily intake.

Know the breathlessness and swallowing problems are localised, but the coeliac problems

causng your ferritin levels to be low even if you have been taking iron supplement show it is not being absorbed properly. Cutting out tannins and increasing your b vitamins other than b12

in food might help. Iron tablets should be taken with vitamin c tablets as it aids absorption.

Brain fog joint pain and bad stomach are associated with coeliac disease.

Thyrotoxicosis is usually associated with high blood pressure. That's why your face is red may be. You have several autoimmune diseases and once you have the results of your antibody tests

you will know if you have gone hypo after the tablets though the main tests show you have improved.

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Thankyou for that info it was very interesting, im very concerned they never done antibodies, i will have to get them done privately, they were requested on bloods form, im not understanding the last paragraph when you mentioned about

yours

once you have the results of your antibody tests

you will know if you have gone hypo after the tablets though the main tests show you have improved.

Sorry gadgrantg sounding thick here. 😮x

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Oh meant to say the neck massage advice thing you sent me felt really nice and i fell asleep 10mins later.x

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