Help needed. So angry, Tired and Dripping Wet all the time.

[soos49]

Hi can anyone help me please to sort out what in heck to take .

Im 52 and just 7 months into menopause. 8 sets of HRT later no luck. Sick on them all. Due to the progesterone. Now Im on a terrible tablet Duavive (contains horse pee.ie: cancer ??) Anyway, I have extreme exhaustion, really bad temper, sweat all day long so much that my hair is wet. I cant put makeup on. I feel lousy and depressed and angry. Can anyone help here with some idea? Oh, I have underactive Thryoid and am on 150ugs daily in the AM which is ok for now.

Help please and teach me what it wrong here. Im so depressed. And cant work due to my grouch, nasty mood. Im awful. I take codiene to calm myself down. Not great but cant find anything to calm my moods even Valium doesnt work.

Warm regards, (no pun intended)

Sue

[lc1973]

Hi Soos49

I'm not in menopause but i am taking bioidentical estrogen in the form of a gel you rub on and progesterone (also bioidentical) in tablet form to try and sort out my very low estrogen and low progesterone. To be honest i'm struggling a bit to try and get the balance right. I'm also hypothyroid but i dont think my dose right. Cant help but think if my thyroid was right that these other issues might go away. I feel angry too and wonder if its too much estrogen that i'm taking as i find if i take too much progesterone i feel very lethargic. Has your GP referred you to an gynaecologist or is he or she just trying you on all sorts of HRT to try and find what works?

[humanbean]

I don't know anything much about sex hormones, sorry. However, if I did supplement them I would only use bio-identical creams. No horse pee for me!

I had/have problems with excessive sweating. In my case the main problem is from my head, and I've had sopping wet hair on many occasions.

Optimising my thyroid hormone levels and lowering my high cortisol has helped with the sweating a lot. Optimising low nutrients is helpful too.

If you are prepared to pay for private testing and post the results we can help you to optimise your results and, hopefully, in the process make you feel a lot better.

A private test using a finger-prick sample of blood can be used to test the following :

TSH

Free T4

Free T3

TPO Antibodies

Tg Antibodies

CRP

Ferritin

Vitamin D

Folate

Vitamin B12

All the above can be tested in a bundle for £99 from Medichecks or Blue Horizon Medicals.

Cortisol and DHEA can be tested for with a saliva test from Genova Diagnostics UK. Their current price is £85, discounted to £77 for Thyroid UK.

[soos49 in reply to humanbean]

Hi Human Bean. My adrenals and high cortisol levels is something Id love to get tested for. I think there is something in the cortisol levels that is a problem for me .. I have been reading about them all night and have to agree with you in wanting to test in this area. Will be doing this as soon as I get paid. The grumpiness could cost me a job if Im not careful and careful hormone balance is so imporatant for me too.. being new to menopause. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. HBean.

[humanbean in reply to soos49]

The Genova test can be found here :

gdx.net/uk/product/adrenal-...

Read the Description, Analytes and Requirements, and also the Additional Resources down the right hand side of the page.

Genova don't deal with the public directly, so ordering and getting results is a bit unusual. For full details on how to do it read this page :

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

[humanbean in reply to soos49]

I suffered from grumpiness in the extreme. In my case it wasn't lowering my cortisol which helped, it was giving up gluten. About 5 days after giving up gluten I suddenly realised I felt mentally completely different. My temper had completely gone, and it has never returned in the same uncontrollable way since.

[greygoose]

Sweating from the head is a low vit d symptom. So, as HB says, you need to get that tested.

Please don't take horse pee. It is disgustingly cruel to horses.

[soos49 in reply to greygoose]

Tell the pharaceutical companies that one. . cruel to horses. I agree , however that is what they are selling to fix up sick ladies like me. However, there are now, expensive version of HRT called the bio-identicals. Much better I think, especially since the premarin (horse pee) leads to ovarian cancer. thanks for your reply. regard, Sue

[greygoose in reply to soos49]

Oh, don't worry, I've told them! But, while people keep buying and using it, they are going to keep producing it. The only way forward is to boycott it.

[soos49]

thanks all for your kind comments. This help heaps. Im not on progesterone but think I need this to balance it all out. How .. who knows.. trial and error I suppose.

[dlbynum1 in reply to soos49]

I has similar situation and switched to Nature Thyroid helped me sleep. Then I started taking Selenium, B vitamins (mood) and progesterone. It is a lot of trial and error!

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I can relate to what you're experiencing. I am 48 and have been suffering from the same symptoms for the past few months. My last real period was two months ago. Three weeks later, I had a very light bleeding for two days (very different from my usual, heavy periods lasting for about a week) and, since then, nothing.

I have been on Estrogel (bio-identical estradiol cream) and bio-identical progesterone pills (Utrogestan, 200 mg) for the past five years. I use E day 5-25 and P day 15-25 of cycle. My hormone doctor prescribed them although I was not menopausal at the time, but because I was diagnosed with adrenal fatigue.

As far as I know, you should only use bio-identical HRT, never the synthetic ones (including urine from pregnant mares).

Right now, for whatever reason, the hormones don't seem to provide optimal relief. I went to the lab last week and am due to see my doctor next week, so then I'll find out if something needs to be adjusted. My doctor is also having my testosterone levels tested (free testosterone), and I recently read that low testosterone levels in women can cause symptoms much like the one's I've been having lately; almost every night, I wake up between 2 and 3 o'clock drenched in sweat, and it takes an hour or more to go back to sleep. More often than not, I wake up again around 5 and find it impossible to go back to sleep, so I rarely seem to be getting more than three or possibly four hours of uninterrupted sleep at night. I have also been feeling more moody lately, and I am beginning to suspect that the lack of uninterrupted, restful sleep combined with my mood swings are beginning to take a toll on my quality of life...since HRT seems to be what's usually recommended for symptoms like mine, and I'm already on it, I am not very optimistic when it comes to finding a solution...I read somewhere that you can go through menopause for ten years, and I am already beginning to dread living like this for another decade...I recently discussed this with my mother, and she told me she stopped having her periods in her early 50s and never and any problems. My mother is not hypothyroid, though, and I am beginning to suspect that it's different if you suffer from thyroid disease...after all, menopause means a change in hormone production, and I guess it can wreak havoc on an already unstable endocrine system...

[annhenderson]

Honestly, Menopause is the worst feeling I ever have. Hot flashes, night sweats, and it's so hard to sleep at night. And that makes me feel tired, and easily annoyed at everyone and after feeling guilty for snapping at my husband and son for no reason. I always feel depress and think negative. I Started looking for remedies for reducing the symptoms and stumbled across an article about how Niveau Krill oil can reduce menopause symptoms, so I decided to try, and I am happy to say it helps with My mood swings, depression and anxiety. I start to feel active and positive, and Menopause symptoms are now manageable.