How long does T3 stay potent after it's date has expired.?

[Joesmum]

My last 3 tubs were already at their expired date when the pharmacist gave them to me. I'm sure they're not working properly?

[jimh111]

The pharmacist can't give you expired medication. If they had expired, or will do before your next prescription, take them back. UK liothyronine seems to go off long before their official expiry date.

[Hidden in reply to jimh111]

Submit a yellow card online. They can't keep issuing shoddy T3.

Complain also about the date to your pharmacist. They shouldn't have issued you an expired medication.

[Joesmum in reply to Hidden]

Thank you reikimaster,

Good call.

[Joesmum in reply to jimh111]

Hi jimh111,

Thank you for that . That's good to know.

[look_at_the_big_picture]

Do you have the batch number and expiration date?

I ask as I recently reported two batches of NHS supplied Liothyronine as defective via the yellow card scheme to the MHRA. One expired end of May and the other expires the beginning August.

My endo and pharmacist have not responded. Luckily I have a few pills left from years ago which I privately bought which are still in date. Funny that how my Tiromel T3 meds from about 4/5 years ago are still withing their expiration date but NHS supplied Mercury Pharma Liothyronine can barely last a NHS prescription.

Currently I find myself up ____ creek without a paddle! I dunno why I am laughing as I feel like crying my eyes out of with my current health/healthcare predicament.

You can always PM me if you prefer.

I did raise this issue on the TPA-UK forum. Ended up getting a couple of people writing about they have been fine with their recent T4 meds!

[look_at_the_big_picture]

I was told by the MHRA not to consume expired Liothyronine.

I had informed the pharmacy that prescription batch would expire before i had a chance to use it. Due to having a few pills left from the previous prescription. It got ignored. Complaints to the head pharmacist came back a couple of months later as no it can't be exchanged.

Thinking to lodge a complaint with the Royal Pharmaceutical Society.

[Airmed]

I am taking T3 that expired 31 May 2017 and have been for two months. No I'll effects so far! This was for experimental purposes. I did complain to the pharmacy about the expiration date of the T3 I was getting as I have 3 months stock. They informed me they too had complained but wherever their supply comes from was all they had. The last batch I received expires in October which by the time I get to take them they will have expired too! Am loath to discard as want to keep some in hand just in case. I'm not suggesting anyone else tries this though. Just my experience.

[look_at_the_big_picture in reply to Airmed]

You could try getting the pharmacy to replace the rest of your May batch with an October batch.

I raised short dated stock with the MHRA earlier in the year. It took them well over 2 months to properly respond. I got an automatic response and then a we are sorry for the delay in responding to you type of message a month or so later. By the time they had replied the medication had long expired.

A great shame my GP won't issue T3 meds. It would be easier to contact him when issues arise.

[Airmed in reply to look_at_the_big_picture]

Thank you for advice will talk to pharmacist.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Airmed]

I'd have hoped that the pharmacy would have given you one pot, and an "owing" note for the other two. Yes, of course, that means you don't have the full lot in your possession, and it could be a problem getting back there, but it should have been offered.

[JaninaWalker]

Here are my comments regarding expired anything. The expiry date means it is insured by the maker for best performance before that date. Notice that does no mean it suddenly is totally ineffective on that date. I used expired insulin for a few years as a person I was helping was getting a lot from a brother who was a pharmacist and instead of throwing it out he gave it to his brother who used insulin and as he was getting more than he needed for himself, he was passing some on to me and he naturally gave me the oldest. So at one point I was using 2 year past date insulin.

I had to give up helping him as he was doing as much as he could to make himself sicker by being an alcoholic and smoker so he had created for himself a really bad situation and was only very rarely doing the right thing, but he did finally totally solve his anemia situation he had for years and that was due to the supplements he asked me about. It has 52 elements in it and is professional grade without additives that are deleterious.

That also solved a thyroid issue that was starting in another young woman of 21 now who had been 20 years old when she asked for my help. So luckily she lives a full life and is going to university and winning for highest marks while in her third year of law studies.

So I would say there is no need to throw out what is past date, but I sure do know why they cannot sell it past date, but that does not mean it is not usable.

So the reason I came to this tread is I am trying to calculate how much T3 to buy and wondered how it worked past date. The cost for prescription T3 in Canada is so high I had spent Cdn$350 in 2017 for 200 tablets of 25 mcg T3 that I used over about 10 months and got my T3 down to 8 ng/dl. I do have a prescription, but the body builder sites do not require one. But at the moment my reverse T3 is going down on it's own with supplements, but very slowly. That is because I added back milk into my diet. and do less fasting.