Adrenal cortex and Ndt dose times

[hoalarg]

I need to take ACE and Ndt at split intervals during the day, and due to not wanting to take both of them too late in the day I have to take them quite close together. I realise that this is not ideal but not sure what else to do. Does anyone know how much of an effect this might be having?

Thanks

[Lozzer66]

I was told I can take my adrenavive ll adrenal cortex at the same time as ndt and I have been doing this no problem thus far twice a day.

[hoalarg in reply to Lozzer66]

Thanks for replying. That's encouraging. Do you take one a day first thing?

[Lozzer66 in reply to hoalarg]

I've only been taking for a couple of months but I started on 1in the morning with 1 grain of ndt an hr before food /coffee etc and then after a couple of weeks of doing this added another one about 2 o'clock ish in the afternoon (away from food either side of )with half of grain ndt !I am now taking 4 ..2 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon but still only 1.5 grainof ndt as I was told to lower (previously was taking 3 grain)this whist my adrenals kick in.....I sleep better,my mood is better and It has stopped my hot flushes I was having.

[hoalarg in reply to Lozzer66]

I'm glad that you're making progress now. Yes having weak adrenals while taking ndt can weaken them. Are you seeing Dr P?

I am now taking three adrenavive lll. I have gradually increased. I was taking thorne ace but Dr P told me it was too weak. I am splitting 1 grain throughout day.

I'm wondering if 3 adrenavive is too much for me as mood has not been so good since increase.

[greygoose in reply to Lozzer66]

I'm sorry, but that really was very bad advice. You should leave at least 2 hours between the two. It won't cause problems, as such, your head won't blow off or your eyes drop out, or anything like that, but it will affect the absorption of your NDT. All thyroid hormones should be taken on their own, just with water - or possibly vit C - for maximum absorption.

[Lozzer66 in reply to greygoose]

greygoose it was Doc P who told me I can take with my ndt (as i questioned him on that)...and so did the manufacturers when I rang and asked them also .

[hoalarg in reply to Lozzer66]

Ah that's interesting...I really don't know what to believe now.

[greygoose in reply to Lozzer66]

Well, personally, I wouldn't take the risk.

[hoalarg in reply to greygoose]

Thanks for your reply gg. That may explain why 3 adrenaline capsules are affecting my mood. Only one capsule has been taken away from NDT and supplements. I thought this might be happening but I wasn't sure. There is so little available information about these things.

[greygoose in reply to hoalarg]

There is very little research into these things. But, I always think it best to err on the side of caution, and just take my hormone on its own.

[Hashimotosucks in reply to greygoose]

Hi greygoose, should i also take my levothyroxine first and leave a gap of 2 hours before taking the adrenal cortex?

[greygoose in reply to Hashimotosucks]

Levo does have to be taken on its own, two hours away from any other supplements or medication, yes. If you take your adrenal cortex in the morning, why not take your levo at night?

[Lozzer66]

I did speak to doc P.. (actually through accident by randomly ringing the clinic just to see if he still did a clinic up north !)...so it wasn't really a phone consultation but he did give me basic info to go and get on the adrenavive ll after I quickly told him my situation.I also have read his book and it totally makes sense to me !Did he not suggest trying the adrenavive ll before lll?how's your temperature going with it all?

[hoalarg in reply to Lozzer66]

He told me to go straight on to Adrenavive iii. I haven't been taking my temps lately, I need to get back in to that. Do you think the warmer weather affects the readings or should we just take them as red anyway?

[Lozzer66]

Perhaps you too could ring the manufacturers and ask them or ask Doc P ..if you have already spoken to him I think he is happy to answer any questions you may have not been clear on when he previously advised you .Your temperature is key on all this ....our core temperature needs to always remain the same regardless of how hot it is(optimal 37degrees) Previously I have felt like I would boil with the heat but on taking my temperature it bizzarly as been as low as 34.5 degrees( obviously not optimal on thyroid )!..however.....we do need to tweak ndt to keep it constant ..a little less in summer and a little more in winter!..Remember this is how they used to treat before bloodtests!..it can't fail you.....if it is up and down its adrenal.....if it's low but more on a level it's thyroid. ..if it's up and down but still low then both need adressing!

[hoalarg in reply to Lozzer66]

My temperature seems to always be around 36.3C and doesn't fluctuate too much. I am now leaving more time between the two to see how it goes. Although it's hard to judge how I'm reacting to the cold at the moment, I definitely am reacting better to the heat. I found it really hard last summer but much easier this time. Basically I can endure it more and doesn't seem so overwhelming. It sounds like the improvement you have had too.

[Lozzer66 in reply to hoalarg]

Ah I see...is that 3times a day?...because if it is adrenals are restored (although may need maintaining)..and what you need now is a slight raise in ndt til you are at optimal 36.5-37*.....When you say 'more time between the two'..do you mean ndt and adrenavive?

[hoalarg in reply to Lozzer66]

Yes 3 x 250g a day. It may be too much. Yes the gap between the two of them. Not sure when you know you're on the maximum of adrenavive, do you?

[Lozzer66 in reply to hoalarg]

No I meant 'temperature ' 3 times a day !...

I'm not sure what maximum is with adrenavive lll is but the adrenavive ll that I take I think is 8 per day and I'm on 4 ..but yours must be stronger....I'm still up and down a little so may add more .