You are what you eat. Old food shorten the lifespan in animals

[Justiina]

Interesting study. newscientist.com/article/21...

I have read that blood has same affect. Blood from old donator can have negative impact!

[dang]

Great article Justiina! I had this theory years ago that cellular damage can be passed on from food, it's the main reason I stopped eating pork, chicken and beef many years ago. I'm glad to see that it may have not been all in my head! Thanks

[Justiina in reply to dang]

I am not happy about it as I need meat > lol

But it sort of makes sense.

[dang in reply to Justiina]

Haha well maybe it has nothing to do with meat. My theory could be a little far fetched, my thinking was this: I had learned that cellular damage could be caused by imbalances due to stress. And I figured that since farmed animals are under constant stress that at a cellular level there must be more damage than free range animals like deer. And that if I ate those meats the cellular damage would then be passed on to me.

There was even a Japanese scientist who did an experiment where he used purified water which was molecularly sound, then he put different messages on water bottles containing this water and put them throughout the city. Some bottles had messages like "I love you" and other bottles had negative messages like "I hate you", some bottles had neutral messages. Passersby would see these bottles exhibited and read them and supposedly "react" emotionally to the messages. Then he retested the water and all the negative bottles had damaged molecules, the positive ones didn't. I know sounds far fetched, but it was an experiment in quantum mechanics which is already beyond our regular day physics, where things get a little "spooky" 😊.

[dang in reply to dang]

Sorry just fact checked myself, he wasn't a scientist but an author and researcher. His name is Masaru Emoto. If you google his name you'll see the study.

[Justiina in reply to dang]

Yeah stress affects the taste of meat so wouldn't be surprise if it affects our health.

Like hunters do not shoot a buck during rutting season as it's so full of testosterone the meat stinks!

If you buy ham for Xmas you need to choose a farm where pigs have had quite a happy life as otherwise the meat stinks.

Let alone the antibiotics they are fed. You can smell if the animals have been fed a lot of meds.

Well homeopathic drugs are sort of based on the memory of the water as the poison is diluted. I am sceptical but during homeopathic treatment I improved.

Like I got belladonna which is very poisonous otherwise but it improved my digestion. I got something from octopus which is poisonous but it reduced bloating.

I had nasty headache and was given another poison and headache was gone in 30 minutes.

Hard to say is it purely placebo but I like to think it's not. As I did not know what side effects were and homeopathic remedies make you worse first before it starts to make you feel better. My homeopathic wrote down the side effects put them into an envelope and told me to open it a week after treatment started. She never told me beforehand what the side effects will be. They were exactly what she had written down.

[dang in reply to Justiina]

Interesting. I've been skeptical about homeopathy too, but since living in Germany many doctors prescribe homeopathy and naturopathy and you buy the remedies at the pharmacy. This was a big change from Canada where the two medicines are kept separate.

[Justiina in reply to dang]

Over here its called humbug but I am not the only one having positive effect! Did it cure me? No. But it helped some symptoms.

Homeopathy can't cure an illness, but fix imbalances caused by an illness. That is my view.

[dang in reply to Justiina]

I definitely believe there is something behind it, at least some of the therapies. All medicine started off as "alternative medicine" at some point, once enough people reported positive effects then scientists would take interest, conduct studies, tests and research, and turn it into regular medicine. There's probably a lot of untapped potential in homeopathy!

[Justiina in reply to dang]

Exactly!

And we are more than science can understand nowadays. It's 2017 and still hard for most to understand how unique and brilliant human body is.

[dang in reply to Justiina]

Absolutely. Just one hundred years ago doctors didn't believe in germs and wouldn't wash their hands before delivering a baby. We've come a long way but still have far to go. Luckily I've been seeing a lot of amazing advances in medicine lately, many previous advancements have failed and medical science is being forced to explore alternatives now for cancer treatments, antibiotics, vaccines. Hopefully they can make some advancements in thyroid medication too!

[Justiina in reply to dang]

I agree.

Over here in finland they are developing new type of test methods and testing which provide individual information like nutrient and vitamin deficiency from saliva sample. Should be available soon. So they are finally admitting we are also individuals! And individual needs should be addressed instead one treatment fits for all statistics mumbojumbo.

I have gotten my first set of antibiotics at age of two weeks. I think that determined my destiny. I got vulnerable.

[dang in reply to Justiina]

That could be. I was also vulnerable as a child, I received vaccines for hepatitis after I was born, before leaving the hospital, since my mother has hepatitis as a child and apparently this is procedure. Then I wasn't breastfed either, I've learned that breastfeeding plays a huge role in passing enzymes and good bacteria from mother to child.

Not being able to create a healthy gut microbiota during infancy definitely leads to trouble in life.

[Justiina in reply to dang]

My nephew was born by c section, got antibiotics at age of 5 days and was allergic to milk so not breastfed. He is 18 months and ill all the time. I fear they are not giving him enough probiotics to replace all he has lost and got destroyed

[dang in reply to Justiina]

That's a tough situation 😓 he practically has no original enzyme from his mother. This is becoming so common these days, think of the thousands of years people passed down healthy microbiota through birth and breastfeeding, this was natural selection, those with the best bacteria would be healthiest and live longer and be more likely to have their own family and pass down the same bacteria.

Hopefully he's at least having some fermented foods to help build the bacteria he has. There are also really good high dose multi strain probiotics out there that contain human strains, they are specifically meant to rebuild bacteria after big courses of antibiotics, maybe a round of that would do him some good.

[Polaris in reply to Justiina]

I studied homeopathy briefly and used it to good effect when my children were young, notably for :

Hay fever - the remedies work if taken early enough in the season.

Splinters - homeopathic silica will push a splinter or glass to the surface sometimes quite dramatically.

A sprained ankle, swelling up like an elephant's foot on holiday in Scilly Isles - frequent doses of arnica and rhus tox enabled me to be back walking the islands within a day or so, still swollen, but with no pain or ill effects.

They were definitely not placebos.