Anyone with hashis having a flu jab? I am not sure what to do. Have one every year and it hasnt affected me negatively that i am aware of
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I have a regular flu jab and I have hashi's. Not found any problems. go for it.
Technically Hashimoto's is an autoimmune condition, and it is theoretically possible for vaccines to induce autoimmune diseases. Would be interesting to know whether the Hashimoto's came on after getting repeated yearly flu shots or any other shots. Also, having Hashimoto's probably means you are at some higher risk of other autoimmune conditions such as lupus and Sjogren's, so would watch for symptoms like joint pain, rashes, sores in the mouth, dry eyes and dry mouth, and sun sensitivity.
My hashis started not long after flu jab, had one since and last year said no .Dr noted refusal! Cannot say what was cause and effect as a gum infection was my first suspected cause.
I wonder how long a time period you should watch for any type of issues.
I have wonder this too.
Why put something into your body that contains some nasties when it is not proven it will work. They often seem to back the wrong horse when it comes to deciding which bug to target 
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Couldn't agree more with Marz . Don't risk it.My parents get one every year and it makes them really poorly for the weeks that follow. I wouldn't do it.Marz is right they can't protect from unknown viruses as they mutate too quickly.
I also agree with Marz. There's no point in having it as there's no evidence that it protects against flu anyway.
I get one every year. ALso pnuemonia every 5 and shingles vaccine. Never had adverse affects.
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never had an issue with it. I am a teacher and I am one of the few who don't come down with terrible flues each year.
Thanks Marz I have shared to FaceBook.
I understand perfectly that many people don't wish to have a flu vaccine because of the stuff its made from. I'm 61, I have Hypothyroidism (diagnosed around 7 / 8 years ago) and I also have Coeliac Disease (diagnosed over 50 years ago)
Coeliac UK advise that those with CD should have a flu vaccine each year as CD is also an auto immune disorder. They also advise having a pneumonia vaccine, but this one lasts 10 years. This advice has come in more recent years, or may have been around longer but not always passed to patients.
About 8 years ago, I caught flu in December. I'm not sure whether many people realise how devastating full blown flu can be, its not just like having a really bad cold. I was self employed teaching dance classes at the time. The flu came just as I'd finished my autumn term classes, but just prior to Christmas. I was ill in total for around 8 weeks and in the middle of it all also developed chronic bronchitis. I have never had chest problems before, but my chest 'rattled'. I remember I couldn't sleep very well because of the temperature changes going on in my body and sat up several nights (so as not to disturb my husband) in the lounge with the TV on quietly. Couldn't really focus on the TV that well and felt so ill at one point, I thought it must be better to die really - yes I was really that ill. This meant I couldn't work, so I lost income throughout January and most of February before I could start teaching again.
Eventually recovered and since that time I have had a flu vaccine every autumn. I used to just go in Tesco or Sainsburys and pay around £10 and get it done while I was shopping. And before anyone says, the vaccine they use is identical to the one used in the GP surgeries each year. These pharmacies are under strict regulations with such things. But now I do get invited by the GP surgery to have the flu vaccine each year as part of my Coeliac treatment. My husband also has one because he (62 now) but had emergency by pass surgery (totally unexpected) when he was 45! They advise flu vaccine after heart surgery as flu can be fatal in some cases.
Also had the pneumonia vaccine a few years ago as advised by Coeliac UK.
I have never had any particularly adverse symptoms from any of these vaccines. A slightly sore arm for one day at the site of the vaccine perhaps, but this is nothing in comparison to what its like to have flu!
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yup. and bronchitis is no fun either
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Exactly ohm1 in fact my husband took me off to our local 'M-Doc' out of hours centre one evening because he could hear my chest rattling and was concerned. The doctor there examined me and said no, nothing wrong! Went to GP next morning and she said quite clearly bronchitis. I coughed so much one day I was horribly sick and coughed so much also made my already somewhat prolapsed womb worse than it was!
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It's horrid. You can't sleep because laying down makes it worse. I have mild asthma, and it was also difficult because of that. I coughed so much I had a partially collapsed lung (which is now back to 100%). And thyroid symptoms increased a LOT. ugh
But it's all good now!
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I joked afterwards that I would soon have a 'womb with a view and went for appointments to discuss surgery to sort it out. But didn't like the sound of one operation at all, went for 2nd opinion with a doctor I'd seen on 'Embarrassing Bodies' he gave me another option for surgery, but offered a physical device to keep things in place while thinking about what to do.
I went for the device and its fine, gets changed every 6 months at my local GP surgery and stops the view becoming a reality. I don't want to have any surgery if its not absolutely necessary.
Glad to hear your lung recovered!
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agreed no surgery unless necesssary.
Agree that flu is much more severe than a bad cold. But when I worked in the NHS it was noticable that doctors and nurses avoiding taking the vaccine unlike admin staff.One consultant told me she was avoiding Guillame Barr syndrome.
The other problem is that the vaccine is made on assumptions as to what mix of virus is likely to occur many months later.Often the guess is wrong and the vaccine is only partially effective.
I have heard this too, in one local hospital I have heard if less than 85% of staff get vaccinated the hospital looses it's bonus payment.
Also I hear local hospital Doctors are not getting their flu shots and also some nurses I know don't either. I think this is a bit of a wake up call to us all.
I have a flue injection every year and no ill effect.
Nor me
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Some interesting points in the above link I think we also need to remember that most conditions take years and years to develop in the body .....
Ironic how we take special steps to avoid alluminium like the plague in cookware because of the effects it has on your health and then they go and inject it into you whenever you have a vaccination! No thanks!!!
I used to get full blown flu a lot yrs ago and it would put me in bed for two weeks every time. Havent had it since having flu jabs
Are you sure it was flue? Did thye do a nose and throat swab and send it to a lab? if not there's no way you can know if it was flu just by symptoms - you can get muscle pains with cold. When I was a kid, swabs were done often, but doctors don't seem to bother now.
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same here. It took one bout of flu to make that decision. And yes, I was tested.
Hi, actually, I was thinking of posting a question on this topic, Jefner!
I have hashi and it has taken me 4 long year to achieve what I would call a degree of equilibrium. I have turned down this offer of vaccinations because I am too afraid to rock the boat. To set off all these horrible symptoms. Can't bear to face them again at the moment, it feels so nice to have some respite. Maybe, it is a wrong assumption but this is how I feel. Maybe next year, I'll take it...
My surgery is having a flu clinic tomorrow, and I still haven't decide whether to have the jab or not. I've had Hashimoto's for over a decade, yet this is the first time I've been offered a flu jab as I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes this year. I believe that I contracted Hashimoto's during a bout of flu in 2003! I didn't even have a cold at all last winter, so perhaps it's unwarranted?
Last year was the first time I got the flu jab, apparently it was in the news for being of no use. Can't remember the details but I decided that was my first and last one.
I don't do flu shots anymore and haven't gotten the flu for years and years.
.... have noticed people nowadays say flu - when they mean a heavy cold.
I don't do flu shots anymore.
I have hashi's, colitis & endometriosis and have flu jab scheduled on Tue. I'm on steroids for a flare up of colitis and feel a little apprehensive about having the jab. Last time I had it 2 years ago it made me feel very ill but I feel pressured into having it by everyone. It's reassuring to read other people like me are refusing to have it. I think I've made my mind up, thank you.
Yes...everybody says to get one or you're stupid or whatever. Ridiculous.
Not if you have to pay as there is no evidence that it actually stops you getting flu - it might stop 1 or 2 in 100 cases - which is fine if that one is you, but a total waste if you are one of the other 98. Plus there has been some talk of vaccine being contaminated with glyphosate weedkiller as it uses eggs from chickens fed on foods that were sprayed with glyphosate. The one for people with allergies is apparently made from caterpillars, so neither are any good for veggie people.
It is very unlikely that anyone will get flu in a given year (less than 3% of population). You are quite likely to get a bad cold, but no vaccine around for that. And vaccines are not tested on sick people, the elderly, pregnant women or children.
Flu shot preservative is called thimerosal, which is mercury-based preservative. No thank you!
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I investigated 'ingredients' last week to see if I could find out exactly what is in this year's flu vaccine. Every site I found with ingredients listed stated quite clearly that this year's vaccine does not contain mercury or anything mercury based.
Hi Jefner, it's been a long road of trial for me since 2011, ( no help form GP: "it's not your thyroid, your bloods are fine, dose of Levo is fine."). I tried many thing, most one at a time and for two or three month to see if it helped. None did really.
In 2015 I went down with a frozen shoulder (2nd on since going hypo....). Started around July. Felt so bad I could even drag myself to the GP about it. Eventually the first thing I was doing after a terrible night of sleep was cry.
I saw on this site some people had used 5htp and it helped. Was so bad I thought, try it, without expecting any result. Funnily enough, after a few days only, I had reasonable nights sleep. After a few weeks, I started to feel like could " tackle" the dr about my shoulder.
Told her about how bad I felt, of course she said its nothing to do with the thyroid. Did send me for some expended blood tests and most were within range, a couple a little bit out like inflammatory markers. She said my vit d was a little low and prescribed pro vit d 5000 once a week for 10 weeks. Said it would help with joints and muscle pains. Prescribed naproxen for the shoulder. I think it has helped with inflammation, as I felt like I had a lot of that on my body. I had it for about 6 months, That was back in November.
Also, I decided to take the Levo during the night as some people suggested too.
Since the beginning of this year, I have slowly climbed out of this hell. Won't list all the symptoms I had because it's tedious! I even have gone back to my pre hashi weight. Puffyness, swollen joints, brain fog etc all better if not 100% perfect. I have little dips but I try my best to climb up quick and so far I do. I hope I can stay where I am, and this is why I declined the vaccines. Just in case.
We are all different and we have to keep searching until we find what works best for us. It sure isn't easy and GP are of poor help to us.
I don't know how you are in you journey Jefner but I wish you the very best of result eventually.
Correction, vit d prescribed was 20 000u not 5000.
I get offered the flu jab, and always refuse it – I don’t want something else swanning around in my body that isn’t designed to be there. It has enough to cope with.
I don’t trust doctors to look after me properly any more, they certainly haven’t made a very good job of it so far, so why would I trust anything they say about the flu jab.
I always have the jab
one year my surgery ran out,and I had flu before they re stocked
I was ill for three months
I am prone to chest infections and as I have sjorgrens can develop complications,frequently costochondritis
I would have it because i worked for myself and looked after my elderly parents so i couldnt afford to be ill. I dont believe it can stop youcatching it but it certainly helped me in cutting down the length of time i was ill. I had it every year when i was growing up and always had 2-3wks off school and then work
I have lupus, Sjogrens and am also hypothyroid. I do get the flu shot BUT always ask for the Fluzone Quadrivalent kind. This one has more strains (4) than the regular vaccine (which is 3-strain).
"Quadrivalent vaccine is an inactivated quadrivalent influenza virus vaccine indicated for the prevention of influenza disease caused by influenza A subtype viruses and type B viruses contained in the vaccine."
Also, for the last two years, I've received the intradermal form. It isn't injected into the muscle (which causes arm soreness for days) but only into the skin.
"The intradermal flu vaccine is a shot that is injected into the skin instead of the muscle. The intradermal shot uses a much smaller needle than the regular flu shot (90% smaller) and it requires less antigen (40% less) to be as effective as the regular flu shot. Antigen is the part of the vaccine that helps your body build up protection against flu viruses."
Since getting the flu shot (and also the 5-yr pneumonia shot) I no longer get sick in the winter (I've had flu, bronchitis and pneumonia in the past) so the added protection is so worth it for me. My husband also gets vaccinated as an added protection for me as well as himself.
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I had my flu shot also have Hashis and have not experienced any problems.
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