Hi there ,
Please can someone tell me is it safe to go to the gym and use weights as I did that last week as been feeling better on t3 and this week I feel dizzy tired again . My consultant said I could go walking or light running but that was it . I am terrified that I am going backwards again .
Many thanks
Take some vitamins with b12 in it
Thanks Karengann 
Welcome and try do some at home and don't push your self take it easy for awhile don't over do it
Angie56, exercise depletes T3 which is why recovery from exercise can take 2-3 days. Probably better to build up fitness with the light exercise your endo recommends and leave the weights until you are stronger.
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Thanks Clutter I really appreciate you getting back to me . I am still getting there as endo still says Iv more t3 or t4 to take but gradually . Gosh I didn't realise that is not good at all as I was an hour with the personal trainer and he didn't accept that I had been sick he just said u can't build stamina and strength until you keep going harder . I had lost the dizziness for a few days but now it's back again and tiredness brain fog . I'm on 20 mg t3 and 50mg t4 . I can't believe the difference since November .
Hope you are well yourself Clutter thanks
Hi Angie,
I do weightlifting workouts 3-4 times a week with walking on my non-lifting days and 1 day of complete rest a week.
I had exactly the same problem , not dizzy but very very tired as I was depleted. I would go to sleep after the gym for an afternoon nap and I would be out like a light...dead to the world! 
All this went away when I at last became optimally medicated which took from March 2014 to June 2015. After that I really looked at my diet. I had already stopped eating processed food and felt so much better. I was also eating too little so I now aim to eat 1600 cals a day sometimes a little more as I want to gain muscle (I weigh it all!).
I also pay attention to how much % of protein, carb and fat I eat. Too much carb is awful for me....that is what makes me sleepy as it gives a glyceamic spike. After workout I usually eat chicken, brown rice with half an avacado and that seems to do the trick.
Hopefully you will just "click" very soon with your dosages. I listen very carefully to how my body feels; I do a de-load week every 3 months or so or just a week off if I start getting a bit spiky or tired about things...otherwise I love lifting, I'm certainly the oldest woman, well just about the only woman in the "iron" section. Doesn't bother me, the fit young fellas make a bit of a fuss of me and make sure I'm OK for a "spot" if I need it!
Hi Spongecat , thank you so much for your kind replying . Gosh you are doing so well that's brill . I have only started the t3 first it was 10mg and now 20mg and only been on that three weeks so guess I just thought I could do everything but that's not the case silly me . I just feel like I have the flu like the way I used to feel but I thought the weights would give me strength not deplete me but boy was I wrong lol . I really hope that I can go back to the gym someday as I want to get strong build my stamina and bulk up as I'm quite thin . My consultant told me it was too soon for the gym but I thought he meant resistance machines.
I really hope one day to do half as well as you are doing as its amazing and lovely to hear
Angie,
Excessive intense exercise can be too much for those of us dealing with concurrent stressors such as autoimmune disease, gut dysbiosis & adrenal issues. Too much too soon can have a negative affect on neurotransmitters and the HPA axis (hypothalamic-pituitary- adrenal).
T3 is great for muscles and when fully optimised will give you a lot of muscle strength back. However if you "go for it" before your body is ready you will quickly deplete your T3 levels (or the good that an optimal supply of T3 will provide).
By building exercisetolerence VERY SLOWLY you give time for T3 levels to build (not literally). The more cell receptors that will accept T3, the more protein synthesis that allow muscle growth and mitochondria, which are the power factories that burn calories and increase the basal metabolic rate (BMR).
By incorporating rest periods your body will increase the number & size of mitochondria which will further increase BMR by burning fat cells to make ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate is like a storage molecule that drives muscle contractions.)
Increased BMR will cause muscles to demand more oxygen and so strengthen the heartbeat and increasing blood volume, which allows greater amounts of oxygen-rich blood available to muscles and carries away more metabolic waste.
T3 will also increase free fatty acids levels in the blood but as these are burned by the new high amounts of accumulated lovely mitochondria, this will lower cholesterol and triglyceride levels. Because it stimulates carbohydrate metabolism it increases glucose into the cells (energy) and glycolysis. This is when excess glucose is burned by the extra mitochondria to produce even more ATP giving further fitness potential.
However, your adrenals will release hormone in response to any stress including intensive exercise. I read somewhere that in a healthy person, cortisol kicks in after about 40 minutes of intense training but in compromised adrenals it is much faster and will be adrenaline if cortisol is in short supply. Constant elevated glucocorticoids (such as cortisol ) will encourage protein breakdown inducing muscle loss and also interfere with the HPA axis and thyroid hormones.
You will know when you are ready by your recovery time. If you push too hard and don't recover easily you need to step back a while longer. Light resistance training, walking, yoga or Pilates all offer a good alternative until you are ready to push harder.
Flower
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Hi Flower , thanks so much for your lovely reply. Since my gym session last Saturday I have felt totally exhausted dizzy weak and sore all over . I am really worried that I am going to get worse as I have felt quite good and had dizzy spells lesser and lesser . I am only on the 20mg t3 now three weeks . Please can you tell me have I ruined my good health I'm so worried. All I have done today is sleep and just feel so lethargic . Please can you offer me any advice .
Many thanks Angie
Angie,
If T3 has made you feel better for three weeks now, it obviously suits you.
Hopefully that "well being" feeling will return soon but you need to rest to allow recovery time and ensure all iron and nutrients are optimal so thyroid meds will continue to work.
Your previous posts indicate deficiencies in Vit D and iron - both very important in thyroid hormone synthesis.
Flower
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Thanks Flower , yes I must get my iron checked again as I thought when I was feeling well I would be ok . I really hope to go to a gym someday but I guess that will be a few months yet . I am only feeling better this last month so guess it took years to feel anywhere near well and I need to build slowly . I'm wondering would kettle bells be ok or is that still too much? Thank you so much hope you are feeling good yourself
I would say kettle bells are definitely too much at this stage as you need to build slowly.
Is there not a pilates class or body balance or something less strenuous near you ?
Flo
I think there are some Pilates classes guess that's a start and I do have a Zumba fitness video maybe try it in a few weeks or so . It's very difficult for other people to understand as I am sure you find that yourself as the trainer guy thought I was just being lazy but I wish that was the case swimming is something I love too . I must get bloods done but vitamin d was tested in June and I will never get the results as doctor said they don't test much for it though maybe I will ask my Endo if he can do it . I partied too much over Christmas as was just so glad to feel well and young again but hopefully will again soon
Thanks Flower
Very nice technical explanation, Flower
Yes I must emphasise that I do not go hell for leather! No no. For example the trendy exercise of the moment for "afterburn" is HIIT. I do not do this, I have tried but it is too much (I nearly fell off the rowing machine :D) Let's face it, it's a lot for a person who doesn't have a compromised metabolism. It's a HUGE demand on the body...not good for the likes of us. No,.. walking at variable gentle inclines and speeds is enough and I wear a chest strap monitor just to make sure that exertion is spot on and not too OTT. I don't even run. I like running but my legs don't and I'm prone to shin splints and the odd attack of plantar fasciitis...so walking it is (with plantar inserts!). Lovely in the countryside for mindfulness or listening to a good audio book.
I also have to say that even though I lift several times a week I don't do whole body work-outs, I do splits so chest/shoulders, back, legs etc. get a good rest of about a week before working them again. The fourth workout is reserved for deadlifts only as it's a major compound exercise that works just about everything when done correctly and deserves a full rest day afterwards! This system works well for me, whole body workouts every other day were a trifle too much and I found that out very quickly.
I also take a good fish oil supplement for my joints.
spongecat,
I am pleased you have found what works for you as being forced to abandon exercise routines we have done for years is soul destroying.
Luckily I have always done a lot of yoga so have fallen back to a daily practice which keeps everything working but haven't been near a gym or my bike for a long long time as have wrecked adrenals ... but everything is slowly coming together.
I think understanding the "whys" and "hows" helps acceptance of our conditions and allows us to find a discipline that works for us whilst encouraging a progressively better health.
Keep out up.
Flower
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