Can h.pylori cause nerve pain?

[Justiina]

Was just talking with my cousin and heard her story. Her mom has hypothyroidism and her sister has very difficult RA.

My cousin is 30 and she said her symptoms started many years ago with stomach pain and bloating , she started to avoid basic gluten and dairy. At some point she had ulcer, then some time after that she got severe pain on her neck and between shoulders. Especially right shoulder blade.

(oh dear exactly how my symptoms started but I do not have nerve pain like hers)

Now she is on very heavy medication for her nerve pain, she said that she cannot cope without it, otherwise she can just lay down.

No one has found anything wrong with her, tons of doctors. Was just thinking that if she has h.pylori, I know it can cause some sort of pain, but can it be that bad? I asked if she has been tested for it or treated for it, but in some cases h.pylori is hard to treat? Am I right or wrong?

I doubt she has tested for Hashimoto's, which should be automatic with her family history, as autoimmune diseases run in her dad's side of family too!

[jimh111]

Helicobacter pylori is a bacterium that exists in the stomach and can cause ulcers and gastritis. Many people have it, some develop symptoms. It is easily treated with 'triple therapy' which consists of antibiotics and medication to reduce stomach acid. If she was diagnosed with ulcers she may have been given this treatment. I have never heard of helicobacter pylori causing verve pain, it just sometimes causes irritation of the stomach / duodenum. As far as I know there is no link between hp infection and thyroid.

[Justiina in reply to jimh111]

I know what h. pylori. As far as I am concerned people with autoimmune issues might get loads of troubles having h. pylori and it might be far more difficult to treat than just antibiotics and ppi's. Which was first autoimmune disease or h.pylori it is another question.

Was just wondering if it can cause nerve damage itself or is down to b12 and/or other defiencies.

[Hidden in reply to Justiina]

Justina,

I don't know if H.Pylori can be accountable for nerve pain but given that it is linked to auto immune endocrine conditions which in turn can be linked to inflammation & pain, I would urge your cousin to be tested for Hashimotos.

Also we know that low thyroid hormone reduces stomach acid making the gut susceptible to infection and ulcers. PPI's shouldn't be used with low gastric acid or ulcers.

Flower

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[Justiina in reply to Hidden]

That's what I remembered. I don't know much about h.pylori but her having gastric ulcer rang the bells.

Thanks

[alchemilla12 in reply to jimh111]

actually there are several studies that link H pylori with Hashimotos and other auto immune diseases

[shaws]

These are two links which might be informative.

easy-immune-health.com/Symp...

ispub.com/IJN/9/2/13390

[Justiina in reply to shaws]

Haha, symptoms can be ANYTHING. That clears it all. Can't rule out any symptoms so I will push her get more tests. There is no other reason for her to have a nerve damage as no injures. Could be combo of all and top of that lack of B12. She just told me about how much antibiotics she has had and PPI's.

Once she has had more tests I will guide her here to post them.

[jimh111]

Gosh. You are right. There is research that suggests HP infection is a risk factor for developing autoimmune disease.

[ribbon]

HPylori is a B12 scavenger, so her B12 could be very low. B12 deficiency causes all sorts of nerve pain and dysfunction. Important to get treated