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My blood test always comes back as borderline. The doctors seem to ignore family history, every woman on my fathers side of the family have been diagnosised with and under active thyroid, after reading the website I have discovered some of my other medical issues could very well be connected to this. Do any of you have any advice? Thanks

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Marz profile image
Marz

If you have copies of your blood test results - do post them - with the ranges. Then people can comment. What did the GP test ? If it was just the TSH then it would be more helpful if the FT4 and FT3 were also tested. Also thyroid anti-bodies. If not Private Testing is available through Thyroid UK.

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Heloise

Brownbear, the biggest problem seems to be that the ranges they are looking at are far too wide. This means they can tell many women they are not so bad to need treatment. Most women who end up with Hashimoto's have been slowly fading for years somewhere in those ranges. Do you feel that possibly thousands of women should be shrugged off due to this particular lab testing? You'll find that some of these women have decided to take matters in their own hands rather than struggling with weight gain and dry skin or brain fog. It's pretty senseless especially when all they are withholding are a synthetic pill that only costs a small amount.

You should probably not jump into self medicating but if you could get copies of your tests which they should not keep you from having and if your TSH is over 2.0, you are probably lacking enough thyroid hormone. I often post these short videos to give you an idea of where the problem may lie. There is nothing wrong with your thyroid but it is being affected by something this is wrong. It could be an iodine deficiency, it could be antibodies attacking your thyroid, it could be a lack of selenium which the thyroid needs. If you can tell whether you have low iron, you could do something about that. If you are under a lot of stress it will increase cortisol which might affect your own hormone.

It is rather a complicated condition but they treat it very simply. It is a sad situation medically speaking. You can learn more than they seem to know however.

youtube.com/watch?v=nZ_CP7l...

youtube.com/watch?v=3_uaUXi...

youtube.com/watch?v=qYeFh06...

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dottod in reply to Heloise

The FIRST video post on serotonin (needed for normal thyroid function) and sugar levels. It is helpful to me to understand damage being done by over consumption of sugar! thanks for posting. Each video discusses a different issue.

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Heloise in reply to dottod

I'm glad you see the sense of that dottod. Because our thyroid gland is not at fault so it looks like the "damage" first affects the adrenal gland. Video 2 also about dopamine and neurotransmitters is very enlightening. As you heard, you can't just add these substances. Video 3 about cytokines is an area I knew very little about and later read that the millions of people who died during the Spanish Flue were due to overreaction of cytokines. All 24 videos regarding low thyroid show the holistic nature of chronic disease so if you use the little icon at bottom right, it takes you there.

This is also worth watching if you have the time.

youtube.com/watch?v=T_Re4ja...

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dottod in reply to Heloise

Where can I find Dr. Clark's presentation in its entirety? Like he said in one of the 3 I viewed "getting a doctor who will take the time to figure out what is going on is the challenge". I paraphrased his exact words but he is absolutely correct in my experience with doctors up here in Upper Michigan, USA. I need to have a thorough diagnosis at Mayo Clinic in Minnesota (my closest world reknowned facility) It is 300 miles away but appointments last over a duration of a week to get to the bottom of issues. I have an appointment with my regular doctor in a couple weeks here in Michigan's desolate upper peninsula. The doctor is one who would just as soon get you out the door as soon as possible as Dr Clark referred to . I really feel like canceling my appointment and seeing somebody really concerned about their patients.

I would really like to view more of dr Clark's snipets. Thank you for responding to my comment!

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Heloise in reply to dottod

I agree with you to cancel that appointment. I respect the Mayo Clinic but feel the the AMA and FDA have powers that seem to make their idea of "treatment" so mandatory you need a lawyer to protect your own interests. They also can UN-license doctors, hospitals and treatments.

After years and years I'm somewhat jaded and even some of the holistic practitioners out there may be opportunists seeking lost souls looking for a cure.

Now is the time to be educating ourselves about our own bodies and our own health. The good part is that we do have some controls over our diet and over supplements available. More corruption there as well I'm afraid but we also have each other. I think TUK has been invaluable because ordinary people with the same purpose have brought a collective wisdom to the forum. Keep learning.

Both doctors have many videos on you tube. I think the icon at the bottom right corner of the videos will take you there.

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Cannylass

The one thing I said to my GP is 'its time to treat the patient and not the test results'

Not everyone is the same and to be treat via blood results and not getting any better means something needs to be done.

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Glynisrose

Personally I don't believe there is any such thing as borderline, you're either hypo or not! Blood tests don't tell the full story as you are liable to get TSH results and nothing else.

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greygoose in reply to Glynisrose

Yes, it's like being borderline pregnant. lol

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greygoose...you've made me laugh AGAIN! You are so funny x

in reply to Glynisrose

I so agree on this with all medical issues.

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Brownbear3 in reply to Glynisrose

I agree. I have asked to have more specific tests and to see a specialist, however the refuse.

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Gismo333

Hi blood tests were brought in years ago as a guide and only a guide, but today our doctors have turned into technocrats and if the TSH is slightly supressed then you are not hypothyroid. All my bloods were normal and I lay in a coma state, in bed for 18 months and still they said it wasn't hypothyroidism. I had a pulse of 42 and was covered in fibromyalgia, I nearly didn't make it.

I am now under a doctor from Dr Hertoghes clinic in Belgium. They look at the bloods but the main diagnosis is done by physical examination. Symptoms, listen to the heart, muscle testing etc. All these tests are how you diagnose hypothyroidism not by looking at a TSH test which really has little relevance to hypothyrodism. None of the tests done, TSH, FT4 and FT3 show how much thyroid hormone in the cells and this is where it counts, only symptoms can show this.

I would pick a doctor from the Thyroid UK list, maybe Dr Peatfield and seek their advice, if you listen to your doctor your body will suffer over the long term.

Even if they think you should be treated they will not treat you unless the figures show you need medication, even then they only give T4 which can make matters worse if you have low cortisol or low iron which result in a conversion problem.

I hope this helps.

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