Only 3 weeks ago, i was here trying to get some info on t3 therapy, since i posted my 2 charts, and this is mind blowing for me!!i finally understand all the numbers so here it is only logic and my experience and a book that was sent from God via gabkad
Lets see the logic on TSH
1.Forum people: high tsh number definitely points to hypo, low TSH or supressed not important
Weill this doesnt fit the logic, and this bothered me for a long time, since i was hypo for years and my TSH never went higher then 4.6, and was most of time below 4 , i know how this TSH bullsh.it, is something that made many people miserable, but the same way this is valid for higher TSH, should be valid for lower TSH if we follow logic right? Yes
The outliers are only those Some people with normal TSH numbers :1 to 2 that suffered depression, sleeping problems, PMS, memory problems, osteoporosis, menopause etc you name it!!on normal TSH
Lets say the fact that phisiological levels that normal thyroid produces are 100t4 and 4_6 t3. This is a fact and i was looking to incorporate it in my experience.
TSH that is very low is pointing to hyper as well as high tsh number is pointing to hypo
It goes this way, when you take t3 only...and most of people are on doses like 20 mcg, or more.....how your blood picture will look like?
You will and up with supressed nonexistant TSH, normal or high t3 and below t4 number, and you will think this is ok?
Its not. Taking t3 in doses much bigger then 6 mcg is warranted for special cases only, body recognisez well that you are overmedicated and TSH goes to 0 almost.....T4 gets depleated becasue the body is trying to fight against too much of t3 in blood by converting t4 to reverse t3, this is what body does! So when you overmedicate with t3 you will only see low t4 number, and supressed tsh, no rt3 as when you take too much t4
When you take too much t4 what you will end up with is supressed TSH , below 1, high rt3 and low t3 number!!
If you take 300 t4 this is only 3 times the amount your thyroid produces normally, if you take 25 t3 this is almost 5 times more then your thyroid produces, so no wonder that patients with even 25 mcg t3 dose experience very supressed TSH!!! And get low ft4 number
My theroy is no overmedication is good, neither too much t4 nor too much t 3 , physiological levels of thyroid only should be followed as guidance,
There is a test that shows how functional thyroid is mine was 50%, and when i figured out the data, it turns out my ideal sweet spot would have been 65 mcg t4 and 2 mcg t3 max.....
I ended up at 150 t4, then tried 100t4 plus 25 t3, it was poisoning me......and now i am close to beeing finally treated well, feeling great at 100+4 ...but too early to tell, but this is my theory , that fits the book i read, and i wanted to share it with you
For some time i wanted to believe 25 mcg of t3 is ok, it fits total body production
MY CONVERSION FROM T4 to T3 was never a problem, it started to be problem on too much t4 ,
So majority of people should stay at doses lower then 100mcgt4 and just small t3 ...and that is it....
This fits the logic, all the numbers i saw here and most of all all what i have testee on my own skin
I can confirm 25 mcg t3 is such a stress for heart, even 12.5 may be if you are not taking enough t4 that will compensate for it by making rt3......
I wanted to share this with you, it was mind blowing for me that i finally found an answer that is logical in every aspect...
I can not comment on 20% of patients who do well on t4 only..
But one thing for sure people with TSH around 100, feel less hypo symptoms becasue higher TSH helping to convert t4 to t3 in the cells, and my chart 2 shows the connection between ft3 and tsh, the higher tsh the better the conversion the lower tsh the wors it is.....
So TSH is good number, when you know how it works and is logical, in most cases
But the mess around treatment is understandable now, it follows the more the better and creats so may problems of overdose and noone takes mid way to both, and rare doctors know how to treat it, the book was written by man who did 33 years of treatment hypo, and is MD, i did not read it all, but i wanted to share my theory and what i read there!!!
I very much believe in logic, since this is only how i understood i am misstreated on my 150 mcg therapy.this made it all fit in perfectly, i was searching for it, stuck at some wrong ideas but this finally feels complete and logical, outliers must be explained differently, i cant do that