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Manual Lymphatic Drainage - feedback on my session today

My body is full of excess fluid with my feet and ankles being particularly swollen. I also have a haematoma following a cycling accident and hitting tarmac at 20 mph. The NHS felt that nothing could be done except intensive physio despite it now causing pain when walking.

The lady who treated me was properly qualified and her clients included many with cancer. I explained about my thyroid and she does have some knowledge of thyroid disorders.

Treatment consisted of very gentle movements of stroking and pumping to stimulate the lymphatic system into working more effectively. Absolutely no pain at all. Particular attention was paid to my swollen feet, swollen ankles and haematoma.

I've booked for another session next week, she is optimistic that my body function can be improved and has passed on some tips that will help such as using a body brush and deep breathing.

I came away feeling very relaxed and optimistic that better health isn't too far away!

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Hi cinInamon_girl

I am glad your lymphatic draining session went well.

Are your hypothyroid as swelling is a clinical symptoms of hypothyroidism. Maybe you are not on enough medication. Do you have your latest thyroid gland blood tests complete with ranges that you can post on a new question for someone to comment.


Hello shaws.

I was self-medicating with 112mcg of T3 and following visit to NHS Endo who claimed I was over-medicated, I slowly reduced to 60mcg as per his instructions. I felt absolutely dreadful and was often housebound due to nausea, dizziness etc.

I then slowly increased and now am back up to 112mcg with the intention of increasing.

Latest results from Endo are TSH of less than 0.01, FT4 is 0.3, FT3 is 11.6 with antibodies less than 5. No reference ranges I'm afraid.

Also, I've recently been through some major life events hence my current extreme exhaustion.


This is an extract following by the link in which to view pictures:-

Myxedema, the turgid accumulation of glycoaminoglycans, fat and extracellular water in the legs and arms, is pathognomonic of thyroid disease. This sign is only present in hypo- or hyperthyroidism. If you see it, there's a thyroid issue, plain and simple.

The accompanying pictures are worth the proverbial thousand words. Learn to recognize them as reflecting hypothyroidism. You will see them in most patients because most chronically ill people have some level of thyroid compromise. The take-home lesson is to rely most heavily on what the patient and your head-to-toe physical exam tell you.


Some of those pictures are grim! I've gone from a size 10 to a size 18 in 4 years. Have spent 20 years enjoying outdoor pursuits and had a good level of fitness for an old girl. All that's gone and probably will never get it back.


I hope then with you increasing your medication back up again that you will begin to feel better and swelling reduce.

Dr Lowe has said that there is no scientific evidence for reducing medication due only to your TSH. As you are taking T3 only, I believe that your tests are indicative of that. A higher T3 and low T4. This is an extract go to question dated November 9, 2005. plus the link:-


For someone taking 100 mcg of T3, we expect your pattern of lab results—a low TSH and high T3. However, your TSH and T3 levels are irrelevant to whether you're overstimulated or not. Two studies we just completed confirm other researchers findings: these tests are not reliable gauges of a patient's metabolic status.


Dr. Lowe: With most patients, I use thyroid function tests (TSH, free T3, and free T4) and thyroid antibodies only for a patient’s initial diagnosis. Afterward, I follow the practice, in principal, of Dr. Broda Barnes—that is, measuring tissue effects of particular dosages of thyroid hormone rather than remeasuring TSH, free T3, and free T4 levels.

My reason for this different protocol is simple: the TSH, free T3, and free T4 tell us only how the pituitary and thyroid glands are interacting. Of course, the test levels may also tell us something of the influence of thyroid hormone over the hypothalamus in its secretion of TRH, another hormone that influences the pituitary gland's secretion of TSH.

Tissue measures of thyroid hormone tell us what is most important, that is, how the patient's tissues other than the pituitary and hypothalamus are responding to a particular dosage of thyroid hormone.


Thank you shaws and that second link is extremely interesting concerning body temperature. I'm not prepared to reduce my T3 again, it did not work and frankly if an Endo wants me to be ill due to stupid NHS guidelines then I'll just ignore him!

I didn't realise about temperature gauges and how the glass type are the most accurate and reliable. Also that body temperature is not 100% reliable as an indicator of thyroid health.


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