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I thought this would be a good place to have a rant about my IBS. I am completely fed up of this horrendous condition completely taking control over my life. I have not slept in days due to constant nausea and pain and not being able to get in any sort of comfortable position so I can sleep. I find lack of sleep makes my symptoms much worse but I canā€™t sleep due to the debilitating symptoms. It becomes a vicious cycle which I canā€™t seem to break.

I am concerned because I start a new job in September (I had to leave my previous job as I had a headteacher who couldnā€™t understand IBS and why I had to have so much time off for ā€œtummy acheā€ she made my life hell and forced me out of the job I love) I am now grateful I have a new job and a fresh start to look forward to but I am concerned I am not going to be able to start until I get my symptoms under control.

I am currently being prescribed Ondansetron for the nausea but I feel like itā€™s not having much of an effect. I am also taking over the counter Codine which will not be prescribed to me by my GP as itā€™ll make my constipation worse but I will take that over the pain which is unbearable. It I am also taking 40mg of Nortriptyline every night and 40-50ml of Sodium Picosulfate every night alongside the highest dose of Buscapan you can take. I am constantly batting with my doctors as they are reluctant to prescribe all this medication and do not take my condition seriously. This is just adding to my symptoms and making my anxiety worse. I am also trying the Fodmap diet with little improvement.

I feel like I am jealous of people who do not have this (or any other chronic condition) and can go about their daily life and get daily tasks done with ease. The most frustrating thing is I can have a day every now and again when I feel ok and I feel like I have a new lease of life but then Iā€™m back to normal the day after šŸ˜„ when Iā€™ve not changed anything. Itā€™s so frustrating. I canā€™t go out and do normal things and if I do Iā€™m struggling again with pain and nausea and unable to sleep.

I feel like people do not understand this condition and also Professionals as people who suffer with IBS are not entitled to get any financial support such as PIP which is so frustrating.

Sorry for the long post but I feel that this was the best place to get it out of my system to people who understand what we are having to live with xxx

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I fully understand. When this "something" as it was then started in 2018 I went literally from feeling fine and my normal self one day to ill the next and thought it had to be a virus of some kind. 3 weeks later I went to the doctor who ran blood tests & and examination and found nothing wrong. One week after that my gut was upset for 9 days.

I still didn't know what it was.

Suddenly I would have some hours, which led to a whole day sometimes, and then 2 days etc, when I felt perfectly my normal self again! That went on for 2 years, and at times I got to the point when I would have a week or so of feeling normal before the symptoms came back.

My symptoms were: nausea, a strange psychological thing where I felt a sense of ominous doom (for want of better words!), shakiness like deep utter exhaustion, sleep disturbance, tiredness, heart palpitations, strange appetite, from loss of to huge ravenous appetite with cravings for fats and anything salty, weakness in muscles, and odd tics or twitches and a droopy right eyelid.

Then in 2020 the gut thing really set in and the other things took a back seat, and that year I was diagnosed with IBS D.

For the first 2 years I felt so weird and ill I literally thought I had a terminal illness and was even sent for a head CT scan (negative) and further blood tests which showed nothing.

Then when the IBS set in more clearly the other symptoms subsided. I think it probably was IBS all along but so strange as my gut and bowel movements seemed normal until 2020.

I felt so ill with it all, and definitely that no one understood. People said I looked well and that was the weirdest thing as I felt so ill I even wrote my Will. I had been super fit and well just before it all.

I feel I can manage it better now and don't feel as bad generally, just got a gut like a rebellious teenager inside my body! lol I have some extended times of feeling relatively ok. But do still get flare ups.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toLuisa22

Thank you so much. I just want to get to the point where I can manage it a lot better and get back to some sort of normality.

Yes, it does make you feel that itā€™s something more serious when youā€™re constantly ill all the time. I also get some of the strange symptoms similar to you like the feeling of ominous doom and you think youā€™re going mad! Although, having anxiety on top of the symptoms doesnā€™t help at all x

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Fergie53ā€¢ in reply toLuisa22

Yes Iā€™ve also had some of the strange symptoms you mentioned, like feeling of doom and erratic feelings of hunger an then not feeling hungry at all! I think itā€™s a lot to do with the vagus nerve and this can also make you feel nauseous..

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toFergie53

Thanks for your help!

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Casnewyddā€¢ in reply toLuisa22

The twitches etc sound like benign fasciculation syndrome, which like IBS can be stress related.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toCasnewydd

Thanks..Iā€™ve never heard of this.

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heartmatters1

I really feel your pain & frustration. I am relatively new to this condition. I have not been officially diagnosed with IBS but have diverticulosis, found following colonoscopy. I have days when I feel I can conquer the world & then days like you when I feel I have a terminal illness with symptoms just as you describe, usually on days when my bowels are in a flare up. There seems no rhyme or reason on why this happens. I just worry about any plans I have made & whether I will be ok on that day šŸ«£. I am fortunate that I am now retired & this wasnā€™t happening when I was working .

I do hope your new job goes well & you have a more understanding boss this time. Obviously stress & anxiety doesnā€™t help. I do try meditation & relaxation techniques, but when Iā€™m in a flare up I canā€™t even concentrate on that. Itā€™s a such a debilitating condition & as you say you look well on the outside.

Keep calm & carry on itā€™s all we can do.

Best wishes Ally šŸ¤—

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toheartmatters1

Thank you so much. I donā€™t know Iā€™m going to feel from one day to the next so itā€™s hard to make plans to do anything. I do meditation and yoga and find it does ease some of the symptoms but I agree, I canā€™t concentrate on anything when Iā€™m having a bad flare up x

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Breathless1943ā€¢ in reply toheartmatters1

I think Diverticular, is a bit more serious than IBS and when you have a flare up itā€™s the pockets are infected,which then turns to Diverticulitis. And I couldnā€™t agree more itā€™s painful. Itā€™s also a problem trying to regulate your bowels properly. Iā€™ve lived with IBS for 10-12yrs and still havenā€™t got a grip on it,Iā€™ve only recently after a CT scan been diagnosed with Diverticulitis.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toBreathless1943

Thanks for your help! Diverticulitis is something I have considered. It might be worth seeing if I can be checked for it.

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edwangy

I'd stop the codeine if I were you, it'll only make the constipation worse.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toedwangy

Thatā€™s what I keep getting told but I only take it when Iā€™m at breaking point where the pain is so unbearable I canā€™t stand up. I would rather not be taking it though but I find other painkillers like paracetamol do nothing for me.

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edwangyā€¢ in reply toFloss-12

I have similar symptoms but have IBS C and diverticular disease. No painkillers help me, but if it works for you then ok

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Breathless1943ā€¢ in reply toedwangy

Since Iā€™ve recently been diagnosed with Diverticlar,and recently had Diverticulitis,apart from antibiotics,I believe being constipated is a problem,Iā€™m still learning about it,because I can then help myself. So if you have any advice it would be welcome.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toBreathless1943

Thanks for your help. Iā€™m still learning too..itā€™s like a minefield

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Pollyboo

Hi, it's good to have a rant, gets it out of your system. We all understand on here .Take care Pollyboo

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toPollyboo

Thanks so much x

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bungi1961ā€¢ in reply toPollyboo

I have had this bloody Diverticular Disease and IBS 4 the last 3/4 years had 2 colonoscopies 2021 then another colon scan this year after 2 colonoscopies and 6/7 polyps removed thought I was going to be ok the Hospital just gave me a low FODMAP leaflet shoved out the door and more or to just get on with it!!!! I am still taking cocodamol mebervine albervine buscapans colomint every day and anything to make it go away but some days it feels like being killed from the inside out or tortured bloated and so scared of doing anything in my pants (poop) and that's putting it mildly and constipation I would rather have that than it 2 go the other way I hardly go out missed my own Mum's Funeral last month as I am scared of pooping myself and the pain I feel as if I am a hostage/prisoner 2 the house/toilet every moment of the day now it is 365 days a tear and even going Doctor's feels like mission impossible fed up with it all now

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Breathless1943ā€¢ in reply tobungi1961

Wow thereā€™s a saying for what we all feel,walk a mile in my shoes.

I seen a cancer specialist about 4months ago,he wrote out a blood test form,ask to examine me,told me I needed a colonoscopy,which I refused with no bedside manner whatsoever he ripped up the blood test shoved a paper on the fodmap diet in my hand opened the door and said have a nice life. In other words do as I say Iā€™m the expert. He wouldnā€™t discus it with me at all.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toBreathless1943

Iā€™m sorry to hear about your experience..I have shared similar experiences unfortunately. The most recent was from a consultant Gastroenterologist when I was hospitalised due to severe constipation and an infection in my stomach..itā€™s a long story but she basically told me it was just a virus and Iā€™d get over it in a couple of weeks and Iā€™m not going to get my bowels moving just lying here.

She discharged me without being treated (even though I hadnā€™t passed a bowel movement in over 14 days) when I questioned her she said I was being aggressive and said if I came into A&E again I wouldnā€™t be treated šŸ˜” unfortunately, this is the type of experience I have quite a lot of the time and Iā€™ve to learn to not react to it (which is difficult) so I completely understand your situation and yes I wish that some people could just spend a day in our shoes and they might have a bit more sympathy.

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Breathless1943ā€¢ in reply toFloss-12

Iā€™ve had one or two bad experiences,and I just think if they donā€™t like the job why do it. If your in any CARE system I think the answer is in the name CARE,that goes for Nurses Consultants,GP,or whatever your dealing with sick people,so wish they had just a bit of empathy.

I also donā€™t think your there because your worried,frightened Ect,so a bit of empathy goes a long way.

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Katerina1ā€¢ in reply tobungi1961

I feel for you. I've been living with the same as you describe for fifteen years, Diverticular disease and IBS. It's wrecked my life. Worst part is the uncontrollable diarrhea which hits at any moment. Hours in the loo. Can't plan, and like you say even making it to the doctors is a challenge. I've been caught out with sudden diarrhea when out a couple of times recently, a nightmare and I feel so ill and so much pain with it as well. On good days I feel I can do anything and then it hits. I feel less alone when I read experiences of others on this site as no one in my circle ever mentions it. Doctor/hospital just leave you to get on with it. I take prochlorperazine for the nausea which helps a bit.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toKaterina1

Yes, itā€™s awful but being in this group makes me realise Iā€™m not alone in feeling like this. Thanks for your help.

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xjrs

Good to have a rant sometimes. It is extremely frustrating. Have you tried any probiotics? IBS can be due to a gut bacterial imbalance. Alflorex worked best for me and it has been scientifically studied for IBS.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toxjrs

Thank you. Yes, I have in the past but it might be worth revisiting again.

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Smithyd78

I can only speak personally as everyone seems to suffer differently with IBS. I found it to be an extremely long process to try and find things that worked and so many that didn't. Mine is by no means perfect and I suppose you get to the point where feeling like your stomach is 80-90% is acceptable. I have found the pro biotic Alflorex to be very good. It takes a while and you need to persevere for a month or 2 but I couldn't be without it now.

precisionbiotics.co.uk/star...

If like me you suffer with constipation I found Fybogel to be really at increasing that fibre intake and settling my stomach. I've also got mebeverine from the doctor but try to only take that when I know I may be have a couple of drinks or on holiday.

Other things to consider is excercise (it really helps with stress levels as well) and meditation .... I try and excercise everyday even if it's just a walk .... get those 10k steps in and that will do you the world of good.

I also use a CBD oil which has really helped with the sleep .... Supreme CBD are your go to for this.

With perseverance you can get on top of it .... Just takes time. Good luck with the new job.

Damian

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toSmithyd78

Thanks so much. I am going to try Alflorex as Iā€™ve heard good things about it. I do meditation and yoga which I do find eases some of the symptoms and I also used to love walking but I find it hard to get out these days as I find that when I get myself into a comfortable position I donā€™t want to move because the pain and nausea will just start again.

Itā€™s hard because I know not moving around is not helping the constipation either. Itā€™s so difficult to find the right balance.

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Smithyd78ā€¢ in reply toFloss-12

Seriously try Fybogel for the constipation it worked wonders for me.... Drink plenty of water as well. I get the reluctance to move but with time walking will make a huge difference as well.... Good luck

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toSmithyd78

Thank you!

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Fergie53ā€¢ in reply toFloss-12

Iā€™m sure youā€™ve asked the GP about the pain and nausea, this shouldnā€™t really be an ongoing issue so I hope you can find something that helps?

Iā€™m thinking of trying acupuncture

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toFergie53

Thanks for your help. Yes, Iā€™ve asked my GP but I find they are not very understanding and itā€™s so difficult to even get an appointment. I have tried acupuncture in the past and whereas itā€™s definitely not a cure it did ease some of the symptoms. Good luck!

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Lifebalance

Great Empathy for you Floss-12

IBS can be so debilitating and the medical world doesn't have a magic wand for it. Unfortunately we all have to endure the trials and errors of what works for us.

Your anger will not help your symptoms, it will fire your guts up. So as hard as it is, try to draw a line on what is past and make a plan to go forward.

The mixture of medications are not helping you, they all add to Constipation which will make transit so much more painful and slower šŸ˜”

I totally understand that you take Codeine to ease the pain but it is really bad for constipation, all pain medication will add to constipation and all medication will have side effects of sorts.

My suggestion would be to talk to a professional at the IBS network or your GP to review, and try to make a new workable plan.

I contracted IBS C after an Hysterectomy 10 years ago. It took me a long time to get in control and I was coping well, following Low Fodmap Healthy Nutrition, and minimising medication, only taking it when I had a flare up, but learning my cycle of waste transit to know when to take Laxido to facilitate more comfortable BM and expediate backed up transit.

I had major surgery at the end of last year which has triggered it all off again as nerves and the immune system have memory, so will replay the Trauma of the body.

At least I have the experience of what and why to work on getting it under control again.

Sadly as many of us sufferers here know, oftentimes medical professionals are at a loss to have any answers. It also comes down to Ā£Ā£Ā£Ā£ on the NHS, so tests/scans Consultant appointments are limited.

I have no doubt that your work environment played a huge part on firing up your body. Working with a toxic culture even in one person is a huge trigger.

So, you have a new work environment and options to calm your condition and get it under control. Nutrition, simplified medication so your body is not beng bombarded from all sides, Positive Mindset, Breathing Exercises, Walking, Meditation/Gong Sound Bath/ Yoga/Pilates - FINDING THINGS THAT WORK FOR YOU plus interacting not isolating yourself.

Keep talking on here for support, we are your Tribe!

It will not happen overnight but IT WILL HAPPEN...

Healing Energy and Hugs for you.......šŸ’œ

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toLifebalance

Thank you so much and yes getting out of a toxic work environment has improved my anxiety which Iā€™m hoping in turn will improve my IBS ā¤ļø

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Lifebalance

Daily mantras by Mahakatha- You Can sign up to receive these emails daily, I find listening to them helps create a calm atomosphere Floss -12 šŸ’œ

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Release emotions creatively. Paint, draw, dance, or sing out your feelings. Creating channels difficult energies into art.

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Chant the mantra "Om Aapadaamapa" meaning "remove my obstacles". Let the vibration soothe your spirit. Return again and again to the sound.

Reach out to loved ones. Sharing your struggles with trusted ears lightens the burden. Allow others to comfort you.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toLifebalance

Thanks for your help.I will try these x

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edwangyā€¢ in reply toLifebalance

If only..

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Lifebalanceā€¢ in reply toedwangy

Hello Edwangy,

If only.....there was a cure for IBS, there was a miracle medication for all, a magic wand to make it go away......

Sadly we know this is a condition we can only learn to manage and educate ourselves about anything and everything that could go in our tool kit to brighten each day.

As I said, it's findg things that work for you, and like anything in life you have to put in the work to reap the rewards. So it means incorporating various elements of the Self Help List into daily Life REGULARLY, you have to make them a habit like brushing your teeth every day.

I still suffer debilitating attacks, but I work hard to get through them, rebalance and go forward again. It's a continuous treadmill but I use my own specific tool kit to control the pace and minimise the frequency.

I do hope you are able to manage whatever your condition is, and believe in yourself that you are in control.

Healthy warm wishes ......šŸ˜˜

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Audenim

Hi there, I'm new around here so forgive my post if it's not the "right way to post" etc.

I was diagnosed with IBS when I was 20 (I'm 30 now) and it was hell on earth trying to get the diagnosis in the first place and also trying everything under the sun to help alleviate symptoms as I was reminded time and time again by GPs "well there's no cure, so yeah".

All of those meds I was on really messed up my stomach worse and I ended up coming off of all of them when I was 28. The ONE thing that has helped above all else, was dietary changes. I introduced more fibre in my diet (start out slow or it'll actually make the pains and bloating worse) and fermented foods.

Starting out I could only stomach a tablespoon of chia seeds a day in some kefir (I'm lactose intolerant too but I can eat kefir and hard cheese like parmesan in small amounts). Now I'm at the point where I have a routine down- this may not work for everyone but it's what's helped me (and yes I still have rough days when stress gets to me and fibromyalgia flares up which then wrecks everything I have in place for my IBS but I digress).

1. I drink chia seeds in kefir + drizzle of honey with cashew milk - I just blend cashews in water. (I order cashews and chia seeds in bulk on amazon and kefir & honey from the supermarket.

2. I eat one large meal a day- I use mindful chef so I don't have waste in my fridge and it takes the stress out (Link: mindfulchef.com)

3. I have bone broth powder- I drink that in hot water with salt in the evening (Link: amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08...

4. I take a multivitamin- I have tried many and the best for what I need is covered by a company called "get nourished" (Link: get-nourished.com) I took blood tests (from my GP) to see what I was deficient in and curated my nourished stack to those ingredients of what I needed. For me vitamin D, B vitamins and Omega 3 are what I tend to run low on and I noticed in my IBS and fibromyalgia symptoms when I am low in those.

Sticking to this has helped me so much, no-one has to sign up to these websites by the way I'm just sharing the links incase you want to check them out.

I've tried many things like Keto, vegetarian etc. Now the meals I have throughout the week a different type of protein for each day (turkey,beef,chicken,pork,duck etc), and I always try to have at the very least, one fish meal per week. A cheaper way of getting fish into your diet is buying things like tinned mackerel- it keeps really well and is a great omega booster.

This may all sound excessive but I actually pool all of my "spending money" into my nutrition. I made a promise to myself that food was something I would not cut corners on and it has made a massive difference to the quality of my life. I can actually sleep now and have the energy to exercise. Stress is the main thing I haven't been able to complete remove but I think that's the case for most of us. Just have to control what you can and do your best <3

I hope this helps šŸ™‚

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toAudenim

Thanks for your help

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Audenimā€¢ in reply toFloss-12

Very welcome šŸ‘

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Leo70

Have you actually seen a Consultant Gastroenterologist to help manage your IBS, or is it just through the GP? I agree with Lifebalance that your mix of medication is probably not helping as Codeine and Buscopan can cause constipation and Codeine is never a good medication to take regularly as it can cause addiction. You say that you take Sodium picosulfate and this can cause cramps in itself. I feel you do need to get some professional advice in the form of a Gastroenterologist if you have not seen one, to make sure your medications are not working against each other and could even be causing your nausea which is a side effect of some of the medications you are taking. A Pharmacist ought to be able to give some advice regarding this as well.

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Fergie53ā€¢ in reply toLeo70

Yes agree, I donā€™t think the mix of medication helping and codeine can cause nausea..

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Floss-12

I am under the care of a Gastroenterologist and had a consultation with them recently. He said I was in the ā€œPremier League of IBSā€ I would rather be in league 3! šŸ˜‚ they have been very supportive which is more than I can say for my GP. Thanks for your help!

Hello Floss,

I'm sorry to hear about your struggle with this awful condition. I know your feelings on codeine despite it causing constipation, but did you realise that Buscopan also causes constipation? One tablet and my digestive system dies, I can't take the things.

3 x tbsp Chia seeds and 2 x tbsp flaxseeds soaked in hot water (for an hour) in a mug, twice a day, plus 2 x 1000mg doses of magnesium citrate capsules twice per day; that's my regimen for dealing this condition - plus as much fruit (apples, tomatoes, peppers) and veg (rocket, onions) as I can handle.

Even so, I still end up constipated, due to being on Duloxetine. Its a complete nightmare

I hope you find some relief soon xx

P. s. Nortriptyline also made my constipation worse, but not as badly as Amitriptyline did.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toDesirableusername

Thank you for your help. I am aware that Buscapan can cause constipation aswel but it does ease the stomach cramps to some degree and Iā€™m taking it alongside laxatives to counter balance it. Iā€™ve also started taking Chia seeds as someone else suggested it so Iā€™ll see how that goes. Youā€™re right itā€™s a complete nightmare I feel like weā€™re in a no win situation. Iā€™ve found that Fruit and veg (apart from carrots) makes my condition much worse so Iā€™ve cut that out completely which I donā€™t like as I really miss it. Itā€™s strange how this condition varies so much from person to person. Hope you find some relief too x

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Phil865

Saccharomyces Boulardi has helped me more than anything else. And lately Activia yogurt has been the most helpful with constipation.

I understand that S. Boulardi might be one of the active cultures in Kombucha tea. So now I make my old Kombucha and have one glass every other day.

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Floss-12ā€¢ in reply toPhil865

Thanks for your help!

Hi, I have IBS too and itā€™s awful. This year in particular the bloating has been dreadful. To the point of now having to size up in Jeans. Does anyone take anything to help with bloatingā€¦.my stomach goes rock hard. I think I could be gluten intolerant. Have a nice day to all.

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