I have been recommended by a close friend of the family to try L-Glutamine and Slippery Elm for my Stomach. Does anybody take these or have tried them. And if so what were the side effects ?
I have heard that it can cause Nausea and Vomiting, and me being an off the scale with chronic emetophobia am scared to try it in case it makes me sick.
Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.
Much love and hugs on this beautiful day stay safe all
Shaun xxxx
Hi Shaun, I don't know about slippery elm but I did try L-Glutamine some years back. I came across it googling , some bloke on a body buildings site, if I remember correctly, had taken it for something or other and then realised his IBS(D) had gone. I can't remember now what it did to me but I only tried it once, so I obviously didn't have a good reaction. I think it made the IBS(D) more D. I did phone the shop I got it from and spoke to a very nice bloke who say it often has that effect!
Hi Maureen, how are you and Pete ? Thank you for your advice, the last thing I need right now is D !! If it is the d I am thinking off.
Love and hugs
S
You could just give it a try on a day when you have nothing on. That's what I used to do after my son left home. It might react differently for you?! But it is pretty expensive and you can only buy a big pot of it, perhaps the close friend of the family could let you have a small amount to try! Pete's good thanks, I'm just "shit" as per usual.🙃🙃
That’s what he did do he gave me half a tub to try plus some slippery elm powder with a pot of cacao xxxxx
Maybe worth a try then. I would suggest trying them separately first or if you have a bad reaction, you won't know what's causing it!
L Glutamine is a major Amino acid that supports the lining of the digestive tract as well as Slippery Elm . Both are soothing and both are essential components in healing your gut . Try a little . You can start with a scoop of the glutamine . Look it up please do specific item research online before you take anything . But if you take too much of glutamine it’s not the best and so you could start with a scoop that’s 5000 . If it’s gone drink it slowly away From meals . I depend on it tremendously .,It is highly recommended by many in the field .
I am a Holistic Educator , Nutritionist, Herbalist and I know because I’ve used these both fit many many years especially IBS flare . Your body needs both to help the inner journey of healing . Everyone is different big don’t be afraid of glutamine or Slippery elm .follow directions . Most formulas have them both as key components .
Hi Lanidove, thank you so so much for your message, you obviously know your stuff. I will try a bit and see what happens. Your amazing
Best wishes
Shaun
Xxxx
Slippery elm soothes a gastric stomach aid but it can make IBS worse. It draws and cleanses as it goes through your system. In the old days it was sometimes used as a douche to get rid of unwanted pregnancies. I tried it years ago and the stomach cramps were awful. That's not to say it would affect you the same but I wouldn't recommend it. I've never tried L-glutamine so can't help with that one.
Hi seaneenJust to say that I tried both many years ago and they did no harm or good. Nothing changed. It might work for you but don’t expect miracles. Do you feel better now about the bereavement of the lady you were caring for? I have friend who was taken complete advantage of by her carers and I am trying to research this problem. I’m off to âge U.K. now to speak about this and to try and stop it from happening to others. Don’t forget to include some fermented foods in your diet. And get well soon. Con amore Bxx
Both these ingredients will rebuild the mucosa in the digestive tract....and sooth inflamed areas that keep flaring up bad mucus.....which is a component of IBS.Slippery elm bark can be taken as a gelatin capsule which then puts a fine coating of clean healing mucus pretty much from top to bottom....rarely produces side effects and is very soothing also good for constipation......up to 6 capsules a day.You can also get free powder form which you scoop into a cup....good for ulcers too.I break open a capsule and make half a cup with warm water....let it stand for minute or two...goes a bit like wallpaper paste and tastes a little woody.....the red indians used it for many cures.
L-glutamine.....is found in white cabbage too...and heals ulcers and inflamation.....supplement form is also effective but i prefer eating white cabbage or sauerkraut with juniper (amazon)I healed an ulcer caused by nsaids using these two ingredients....within 8 weeks.....
Some people extract the juice from white cabbage using a juicer but i think its better to get the fibre into your system.....even green cabbage or broccoli contains glutamine...if anything has an L in front of it...it is made synthetically in a lab.
Powdered L-glutamine will give similar results but beware of the fillers some manufacturers use to stop the powder from clumping.....it is likely these that can cause issues.
You need to build back you gut micro-biome by the sounds of it and should also think of adding green bananas which feed good probiotics (yoghurt kefir kimchi) because they travel down to the larger bowel undigested where they feed on the good bacteria from probiotics.
Lastly consider using aloe vera with digestive enzymes such as Optima brand (amazon) this will help the stomach digest food and rebuild the gut flora.....often damaged by nsaids...antibiotics...stress.
Inflamation reduction has to be key with coeliac disease which i guess you have been trying to alleviate with fodmap diet etc...i wish you well.
Best wishes.
I have an ulcer caused by ibuprofen. I hadn't thought about having sauerkraut as it's very acidic. Did your ulcer not react to acidic food at all?
In early treatment you should use plain white cabbage...this healed my ulcer caused by swallowing an ibruprophen last thing at night...which stayed at my les junction....because i didnt take it with food or liquid.A doctor will think you can heal this with ppi...and it should heal in 3 to 6 months.....well i researched alternative solutions....yes sauerkraut has an acidic component which is ideal if your ulcer is caused by h.pylori bacteria...but with nsaid damage you need the glutamine route......low acidic alkali diet....with h.pylori you need apple cider vinegar...garlic..
White cabbage which you should ideally juice...but you can boil or steam fresh cabbage (any) because it is high in glutamine...do not not use salt to cook in order to drink the fluid left.
Then you should also consider zinc carnosine...this heals tissue that is raw because acid has no buffer no mucosa.Believe me this works...(amazin /ebay) i used the swanson product.
Finally the surface needs to rebuild mucosa ...which it does using the two things already mentioned.....but in order to reduce the inflammation you should use dgl licorice (best i used is natural factor) this has aniseed and stevia in stead of synthetic sugars. And slippery elm bark by natures way (amazon /ebay)these twio ingredients make a wallpaper paste that acts like a temporary mucosa which aids healing....reduces pain.
One other thing...aniseed in jakemans throat and chest lozenges and raw ginger...or even ginger and lemon tea....this just reduces any bad inflammation/infection of injured tissue.
I healed the pain in four days...and the ulcer proper in about 6 weeks...no ppi.
So bananas yoghurt....cinnamon bagels...actimel porridge for the first week for breakfast.....white cabbage with small portions of fish or meat....main meal....eat small eat r every two three hours.....drink chamomile or ginger tea...keep a supply of yoghurt and bananas to eat should you get a twinge....you should notice the pain goes after food and returns within two to three hours...you will know you are healing once the reflux starts to get better and the gnawing burning pain gets less....avoid alcohol...paracetamol is okay.
If you have reflux as this often becomes part of the healing process consider melatonin...or eat walnuts before bed...this makes the les close properly.....I can suggest other things too but what i suggest is usually enough to mend ulcers quickly.
You will notice the pain is localised usually just below the ribcage left hand side......hot water bottle and,massage helps.....see if you can get hold of a pemf machine from snowdonia medical...this really does reduce that burning pain....if the pain is right hand lower then its a duodenal issue...which still heal with the above regime.
Thank you so much for the suggestions. I haven’t got on very well with the supplements which are supposed to help heal ulcers due to side effects and them interacting with my other health conditions (thyroid and adrenal). I’ve been fine with slippery elm and marshmallow root though. I wish I could eat cabbage but it makes my thyroid function worse.
I’ve become very scared of food and I have been eating the same food every day for 2 years. I am currently trying to eat a more varied diet, it’s difficult though with the IBS and foods that interact with my thyroid. I think I actually have four ulcers but they are low down in my abdomen.
Okay understood...you seem to have a handle on things..you can get the glutamine through a capsule...it makes a big difference...and maybe dgl licorice alongside your present regime of slippery elm.You may have a chronic h.pylori issue which is known to create ulcers.
I know doctors use a two part antibiotic....but there are other ways to reduce h.pylori without destroying good gut microbiomes.
Research quercetin....spirulina/chlorella and allicin....even heard silver therapy can help.
Thanks. I've been tested for h.pylori and it came back negative.
I can't take glutamine as it makes my reflux worse and it affects my thyroid. It's the same with collagen powder. I found dgl licorice good for my stomach but it messes up my adrenals (I have high cortisol).
It is beginning to look like your body is acting like a vessel in choppy water...everytime you adjust trim it throws a different wobble.That is usually a sign that your system is overloaded or detoxing.
Dgl licorice most contain artifical sweeteners....which will interfere with your blood sugar stability....i use "natural works" which tastes a little strange which has aniseed and stevia.....
Adrenal exhaustion ...nettle seeds....which you can find on youtube...half a teaspoon a day....no more than that!...and it will restore adrenal gland function....sounds crazy i know......but somehow ..it works.
Collagen?....the best form is bone broth....but supplement wise .....vitamin C with ascorbate acid...not ascorbic...will help rebuild collagen...and detox too...a good brand is biocare...what you see in the mirror takes eights weeks to surface...in other words what you were eating eight weeks ago...formed the layer of skin you now see...which means if you were poorly then?.....repair the elastin....with red maple leaf cream.
I hope you find a solution that does not off kilter another function...
I didn't take the dgl licorice in a chewable form as I didn't want to take something with artificial sweeteners. It was in a supplement with minimal fillers. I also had licorice tea and had the same reaction.
I will have a look into nettle seeds, thank you. I did make a nettle infusion a while ago and that hurt one of my ulcers, so I hope I won't get the same reaction with the seeds.
Is the Biocare ascorbate acid the vitamin c powder with magnesium? Thanks.
Hey Leo, do a search on IBS and thiamine. Also do a search on Anti Thiamine Factors.
I've tried both and I think they helped. I keep them in mind when my stomach is feeling raw and feels like it needs a protective lining and build up of mucosa. I will use Slippery Elm in tea and I keep on my shelf products such as GlutaShield and Glutagenics both can be used before eating. Good luck!!
Have you gone through that then ?
Slippery elm was a life saver when my gastritis was at it's worse. Whenever I have a flare up now, I resort back to it. A word of caution though from medical literature, there is something in it that can cause harm/ damage to the liver if used in excess or long periods. It's best used in short periods if I recall from my reading. Marshmallow root is another option that is similar to slippery elm. Im currently using L glutamine in my supplement regimen. It hasn't caused any problems but I'm only on 750mg a day which is lesser than the recommended amount from my reading . You can always get it from bone broth.
Silicon gel or glutamine
When l get upset?
Stopped - L. reuteri probiotic (DSM 17938). My latest trial in an ongoing search to alleviate my IBS related symptoms (chronic dysbiosis?)
Hiatus Hernia and Gastritis
