Fasting

[Lulu4545]

I've read a lot about fasting, ketogenic diets...

They're more and more evidence that what you eat, when and the way you eat it can change things.

I know in France some researchers are trying to find some kind of feeding that would feed healthy cells and not the cancerous ones.

What's the most efficient to your knowledge?

I'm doing intermediate fasting - between 13 to 16 hours a day.

It's manageable.

I'd like to know more about the fast mimicking diet and to include it to ibrance.

Have a nice day

Lucie xxx

[Hidden]

Hi Lucie,

Do you have an integrative doctor? If so, he or she will be able to advise you on the best diet for you personally. For example, my integrative doctor ran some tests and discovered that fat fuels my cancer (other than being ER/PR+ HER2- of course) so he suggested adding more healthy fats to my diet. So now I’m eating more olives, olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, nuts and seeds. This hasn’t been easy for me because I’ve always hated adding oil to salads and other food, as I don’t like to eat food that is dripping in fat. But I’ve had to adjust my mindset and try to be moderate so I can stomach the changes.

Sophie

[Lulu4545 in reply to Hidden]

That's great! I live in France and I only have an oncologist prescribing me ibrance. We don't have integrative doctors. I've had not tests to see what's fuelling my cancer, neither have I had genetic tests.

I could ask my GP.

Would this be a blood test? What should I be looking for?

[Hidden in reply to Lulu4545]

Hi Lucie,

I don’t know how things work in France, so it’s hard to say really. It might be worth speaking with your GP or oncologist. I had genomic testing done last January, which showed that I have the PIK3CA mutation, but the other tests were ordered by my integrative doctor. They were blood tests. My tests were looking for deficiencies, that sort of thing. I’m not sure of everything they looked for. I would have to go back over the results.

I wish you well in your research,

Sophie

[Elizz in reply to Hidden]

Can you help me I am Pk mutation what was the change you made please x

[Hidden in reply to Elizz]

Hi Elizz,

I have not made any changes due to the PIK3CA mutation, as I am still on my first line treatment which is working. Piqray targets this particular mutation, which is a future treatment option if I need it.

Sophie

[Elizz in reply to Hidden]

I am on taxol at the moment, my oncologist seems to go off the questions regarding pikray . I am in wales where are you please x

[Hidden in reply to Elizz]

I'm in East Anglia. If I remember correctly Piqray should be widely available in the UK by March or May 2021, so we are not far off.

[Elizz in reply to Hidden]

Hopefully xx

[Hidden in reply to Elizz]

Let's stay positive. 💐

[Here_now in reply to Lulu4545]

Hello Lucie,I live in France too. I just read your bio, and we were diagnosed around the same time! (I too am finding it very tough to accept)

I am replying here because I am treated by the same integrative doctor as Sophie, he is great, though I have only just started following the program. My oncologist said the program is interesting 'on an intellectual level' but there is no evidence it works. However, I want to do it anyway. I think in France it seems quite medicalised in general. But I haven't met anyone else here in my position so I wouldn't know.

Oh, to answer your question, I asked my doctor to write me a prescription for the blood tests.

We can talk more if you'd like?

And Hello Sophie, I hope you're well. I am over the moon about your good news I've been meaning to talk you. I am still writing you that email in my mind.

Have a great day ladies,

Faye xx

[Lulu4545 in reply to Here_now]

Hi Ladies,Here's another article on fasting.

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

Seems interesting to follow up

[Lulu4545 in reply to Here_now]

Hi Faye,Where do you find an integrative onc in France. What would it be could in French?

I can ask my GP for different things to watch in my blood, but what should I be looking for?

Thanks to all

Lucie

[Here_now in reply to Lulu4545]

Hi Lucie, I see the same doctor as Sophie, he's based in London and I have consultations with him via Skype. Then if I need a particular blood test, I ask my local doctor to write me the prescription.For example, I had a blood test for GPD 6, or something like that.

I'm not sure if there are any integrative doctors here in France, not to my knowledge.

[Hidden in reply to Here_now]

Hi Faye,

It's lovely to hear from you! Email me anytime you like. I look forward to hearing from you.

Take care,

Sophie 💐

[Here_now in reply to Hidden]

Hiya Sophie, I'm always so pleased to see your posts on here, always so positive! AndbI really am really happy for you regarding your recent one 🙂 Yes I'll write soon.Xxx

[Hidden in reply to Here_now]

That's really sweet of you, Faye! Thank you. I try to be positive to get people's spirits up. It can make such a difference. Speak to you soon.

Sophie 😊

[blms]

Hi Luci,If you are fas ting that well at night-morning, you are doing well.

Longo has a great book explaining what to do before IV chemo, etc.

Diet, I know that carrot juicing is supposed to be really good for cancer. It is very time consuming to make the juices every day but worth it, I believe. Then eating mushrooms cooked in extra virgin olive oil, onions and garlic as much as you can. I add ginger, dandelion greens and celery to my carrot juice. The celery helps pull cancer from body and dandelion many things one being helpful for excess mucous. Also, if you have problem with that you c an add oregano capsules.

[Tolife_18 in reply to blms]

Very interesting! What type of mushrooms do you eat?

[blms in reply to Tolife_18]

I eat them all. But I love shiitake the best. But Doesnt natter whichever you like

[Hidden]

Hi Lucie -

I've been doing intermittent fasting for at least a year....16/8 minimum.

My local doc said "Won't hurt/might help", which is my general criterion, and my "big deal onc" at Duke said "that's good, but if you can do 24 or 48, that's even better".

Fasting falls into my category of "Why Not?". Might be beneficial so why would I stress the decision, like, what am I giving up? (not much).

I applaud your efforts to find ways to control this disease...My very best to you...

Lynn