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Methotrexate tapering.

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Evening all, hope you are enjoying a nice weekend ๐Ÿค—I am currently tapering my Prednisolone since Jan this year. I'm tapering from 10mg using the DSNS tapering plan over weeks. Currently on week 3 of taper from 8.5mg to 8mg. In that time I have been up and down a bit, some small flares and always some aches which would leave me during the morning time. As I was having some difficulty with the taper, my Rhumatoligist put me on 10 mgs of Methotrexate, once per week. I found in this time that the methotrexate didn't seem to be if much help to me. I still experienced aches and pains and flares occasionally. The only side effects from the MTX seemed to be some cramping and diarrhea/loose stools for the first 2 / 3 days following the dose. My bloods were showing up ok.

I rang my Rhumatoligist a couple of days ago and explained that I didn't feel any significant aid from the MTX and that ZI felt the DSNS / 7 week taper worked for me. She agreed that I could stop the MTX and continue with my slow taper outlined on this site. She said we'd review this situation in a few months. I'm happy with that. Today and yesterday my PMR has been good, weather also improved !

Should state that I have PMR since April 2020. Started on 15mgs Prednisolone.

After all that my question is can I just drop off the MTX without tapering from it? She didn't say I needed to taper. A friend said that she thought I should taper off the MTX?

What would you suggest please? ๐Ÿ˜Š

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No - no need to taper the MTX and in fact that was a very low dose even for rheumy use so maybe it isn't surprising you didn't feel it made any difference. Hope you don't find it WAS holding something at bay though - has been known!

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply toPMRpro

Tnx for response PMRpro. I will stop for now and see how it goes here. I may end up back on it who knows! I really didn't feel that it was helping me.

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You can just stop MTX .

But would say, it does take a few months for the MTX to take affect.

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply toDorsetLady

Tnx Dorset Lady. I just expected that at 5 months id feel better whilst on it. Hope I don't regret it ๐Ÿ™„. Will keep the site updated

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Just to add to Pmrproโ€™s point, my latest rheumy told me that studies have shown that less than 20mg MTX isnโ€™t that effective for PMR steroid sparing/ inflammatory arthritis -he increased my dose to that level per week. So if you do reconsider MTX, it might be worth going higher if you can tolerate it.

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply toRynn33

Thanks Ryan33. I'm very uptight about it all at present. I will see how I get on over the next few months and review then. If I can drop down in the steroid using the DSNS taper I would prefer that. Worth trying I think. Thanks for your response ๐Ÿ˜Š

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my rhumy just stopped my mtx 2 months ago no taper no affects yet

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply topog165g

Good to hear. How long were you on it ?

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pog165gโ€ข in reply tolkcreedon

nearly 4 years

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply topog165g

Long time! Good to be off it ๐Ÿ™

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I was on 10mg MTX from December 23 to April 24 and found no benefit. Also, I was told on this forum that blood tests were needed if using MTX, so I stopped using the MTX.

I really wouldn't want to be on a higher dose of MTX, my fatigue was worse while using it.

I have tried a few times to reduce dosage of preds from 20mg... now on 3rd attempt. My second attempt I postponed, as my immunologist suggested I wait until gut in a better state.

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply toPMRhealth

I'm like you, I'd hate to be on a higher dose if at all possible. It's such hard thing to get down in the steroid. I did have all the required blood tests and they were all ok. The only side effect I seemed to have was cramping and very loose stools for the first 2 or 3 days each week after taking the MTX. I am going to take the taper very slowly now. From the information on this forum it appears that that is the way to go. Best of luck to you on your own taper ๐Ÿ˜Š

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PMRhealthโ€ข in reply tolkcreedon

Thank you, and to you!

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moconnolly

Sorry but I've never taken MTX and feel can't comment on prednisolone as your medical situation may well be different to mine.

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply tomoconnolly

No worries. Just hoping I manage to taper without it ๐Ÿ˜Š. Tnx for responding

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Poshcards

yes, I was on 25 mg for years and came off it about 8 months ago straight away and felt much better x

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply toPoshcards

Thank you. Good to know. Continuing good health to you ๐Ÿ˜Š

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I took Methotrexate for 12 weeks in total and found my fatigue increased so much. The Rheumatologist just told me to stop - no tapering off. I was very glad to do so. Sorry for the long delay - I have been in hospital for 10 days and am home only yesterday.

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lkcreedonโ€ข in reply toFrancesbarbara

Tnx for your response. Hope all is good with you.I did feel tired during this time as well on and off. Didn't even think it might be as a result of Methotrexate. Off it now a week and feel ok. Thank you ๐Ÿค—

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