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Hi me againI was wondering wat ya guys ate with your prednisone

due to work hours I often don't eat till 10/11 am and am struggling to take the pills due to taste be ok if they were chocolate flavoured..

also any tips on diet food I'm over weight and have bèn told to watch this due to meds ..

Thank You😀

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DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Can take Pred with a spoonful of yogurt -didn’t need to be a full meal.

Some related posts on weight -but plenty in FAQs -and main advice is - cut carbs…

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk...

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Alliekat65 in reply to DorsetLady

Thank you. it was good to read yep cards are defo the enemy bit ohbso nice lol

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Alliekat65 in reply to DorsetLady

Thank you will let my hubby read this ..my daughter has come for weekend and commented how nice all are on here. Thank You Again for this . you have been amazing

random901 profile image
random901

Flavoured kefir yoghurt for me - particularly cherry or vanilla!

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Alliekat65 in reply to random901

does it need be fat free yoghurt ?

random901 profile image
random901 in reply to Alliekat65

Mine isn't!

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Alliekat65

Full fat is better - fat free may have sugar added - that's the no, no.

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Alliekat65 in reply to DorsetLady

ok thank you off to asda lol

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Pippah45 in reply to DorsetLady

Even more of a no no is the fake sweeteners in fat free. I have done well on a Keto type diet - where fat is not the enemy.

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Pippah45

Well it’s not any more is it, or another right sort of fat - sugar is…

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Pippah45 in reply to DorsetLady

I used to be addicted to sugar 4 spoons of sugar in coffee etc. Gradually re-educated my palette and hardly use sugar in my house any more. A sweet treat occasionally but I can stay away from it :)

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Pippah45

Used to have sweet tooth -blame my mother -think it was rebound after rationing in WW2. My in-laws always had lots of sugar in tea as well.

Might have one in coffee if it’s a bit on the strong side, but not other beverages..

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Joseph14612 in reply to Pippah45

I have used Monk fruit drops from Amazon for some time...seems to work well

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Alliekat65 in reply to Joseph14612

oooh I look that up

random901 profile image
random901

As I don't take alendronic acid or stuff that's supposed to protect your gut, I do full fat dairy to max calcium & line my stomach.

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Alliekat65 in reply to random901

I've got alrndronic and calc D( horse pills ) but as I'm overweight anyway the doc said to keep eye on it. just got weight for rheumatology

piglette profile image
piglette

I have hard cheese. I was told the best thing is hard Swiss cheese although I usually have Comte.

Lickle profile image
Lickle in reply to piglette

I've always had a slight dairy intolerance to cow's cheeses so stick with Goat and sheep cheeses. The best hard cheese is the Spanish Manchego it's a sheep cheese.

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piglette in reply to Lickle

I normally love cheese but Manchego and Edam are two I really dislike. I had a hard goat cheese recently at one of my cheese and wine tastings with an artisan cheese supplier and it really was lovely. I can’t remember the name though. I think it may have been English.

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Lickle in reply to piglette

I love Roquefort, the Prince of (sheep)cheeses, but it is so expensive these days. Plus now I'm off carbs there's not much to put it on! Although I'm getting some gluten free bread and crackers now .

Loyd profile image
Loyd in reply to Lickle

Ryvita cracker bread (not usual Ryvita crisp bread) 20 calories- brilliant!

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piglette in reply to Loyd

I occasionally have crackers but normally just cheese

piglette profile image
piglette in reply to Lickle

The King of Cheeses yum yum

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Lickle

But I much prefer the French approach: cheese on a plate with a knife and fork ...

Lickle profile image
Lickle in reply to PMRpro

Or just crusty French bread no blurred. But can't get that bread here, or not allowed on no catbs.

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Pippah45 in reply to Lickle

It may sound a bit crazy but I found a crisp lettuce leaf worked quite well with cheese when I was trying to go gluten free. Fortunately I found no difference with or without gluten. My favourite at the moment is Peter's Yard.

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador

Weight - cut your carbs, especially processed foods and added sugar and limit your fruit intake.

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Alliekat65 in reply to PMRpro

blimey ..guess I'll be at the veg andcsalad bar lol my biggest prob is I'm a nibbler especially in the evening

LucilleG profile image
LucilleG

I take prednisone ~5.30 am with a few spoonfuls of unsweetened apple sauce.

Carnivoreyogi profile image
Carnivoreyogi

Yes to eating a few spoonfulls of high fat yogurt with the prednisone pills. Takes away the bitter taste and gives stomach what it needs to process the pills. I cut out all carbs when I went on prednisone and am on a strict keto diet. I've still gained some weight over the past 12 months--prednisone really does mess with the insulin and blood sugar and there is not much to be done about it. I do take berberine to manage blood sugar. But suspect that prednisone over rides that too.

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Bcol

Yogurt and often a banana when I take mine around 02:00 ish, been lucky though and never really had a weight problem and equally strangely my blood sugar levels and my Hba1c levels have gone down since being on Pred.

agingfeminist profile image
agingfeminist

I have taken pred for over 4 years but never tasted it. Gulp it down with water after a meal or swallow with yogurt. I take pred at about1 a.m. (best time is around 2 a.m.) with a spoonful of plain yogurt...no chewing.

Cut the carbs..and then cut them some more...no bread, no pasta, no rice AND NO sugar...also no artificial sweetners...clear out the cupboards so there are no temptations hiding there...eat loads of veggies (not potatoes).

I also found it helpful to only have black coffee for breakfast (nothing after dinner at 7pm until lunch at midday)..you get used to it,

Don't forget to keep your calcium up...cheese and yogurt...and vitamin D3 (and K2)

You are going to be so healthy....shame about the PMR...

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Alliekat65 in reply to agingfeminist

why 2am lol

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Alliekat65

To let thePred get into your system before the 4am shed of cytokines - as explained in my intro post - under treatment/medication/outlook paragraph -

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk...

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Alliekat65 in reply to DorsetLady

Again thank you that was good to read and also for my husband lol

Loyd profile image
Loyd

I have never eaten breakfast - only a cup of tea with a little milk. Hasn’t affected taking the pred and other meds. Recommend very low carb diet - it’ll make you feel so good.

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HarmonyGranny in reply to Loyd

I've been intermittent fasting for a couple of years now, and like you, don't eat breakfast. Swallow my pred pill with a cup of sugarless coffee. Fingers crossed I've gradually tapered from 25 to 5 mg in a year and symptoms have gone. Fingers crossed, this continues. Good luck to you and everyone else on this rocky journey! 😊

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Loyd in reply to HarmonyGranny

I put on a lot of weight 5 years ago when I first got diagnosed with PMR with taking steroids - went up from 80 to 86 kilos and felt dreadful.

I have bad arthritic ankles and really found walking hard.

I’ve never eaten breakfast in my life (like my father).

However with feeling so fat I just decided there and then to go on an extremely low carb diet 2 years ago.

I am now 60 kilos and have gone from size 18 to 12.

I feel fantastic and can’t believe how easy it was!!

I will NEVER go back to eating carbs.

Wish I’d done it 50 years ago! 😀😀

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Alliekat65 in reply to Loyd

blimey..well done..do you not eat any..potatoes.rice at all ? when Atkins 1st came out I lost loads but struggled to stay on it

Loyd profile image
Loyd in reply to Alliekat65

No potatoes, no bread or wheat (cakes biscuits

Loyd profile image
Loyd in reply to Loyd

Dont know what happened to that comment ! I replied and it disappeared! Anyway yes no bread, no wheat, no potatoes, no rice .

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Tescohednesford

Hi, I don't eat in the morning as I don't enjoy it...but someone gave me advice to have my Preds at night with a little yoghurt.....As for weight I try to stick to Michael Moseley Keto diet...

I'm not a zealot about it and don't deny myself a drink or treat.....but I do treat them as treats.....

Good luck.

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Alliekat65

Thanks everyone I've been on slimming world weight watcherscetc so to find the low fat options have more sugar was a surprise.I did use yoghurt today and did find them easier as I'm not a breakfast person . do any of you eat brown/:wholemeal rice pasta instead of white or isnit a steer clear

I only have red milk in coffee as I don't like full fat

Thanks again guys

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply to Alliekat65

Doesn't matter what colour flour is used - wholemeal pasta and brown rice are still carbs for the purpose of this exercise of cutting carbs with pred.

Pippah45 profile image
Pippah45 in reply to Alliekat65

Red top milk has more sugar in than full fat. Ditto single cream

random901 profile image
random901 in reply to Pippah45

and precious little calcium, I believe ...

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply to random901

Same, in fact marginally MORE, calcium as any other in the liquid - but without fat a lot less is absorbed by the body.

random901 profile image
random901 in reply to PMRpro

Good heavens! But the full stuff is yummy.

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply to random901

Quite - and really not that high fat relatively speaking! The skim stuff is pointless - might as well add water to your tea! There is also evidence that full fat dairy is actually good for you,

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Alliekat65 in reply to Pippah45

Hello wow that did surprise me

Pippah45 profile image
Pippah45 in reply to Alliekat65

It is surprising I agree. I found the variations of sugar even in natural yogurts surprising too. Its a learning curve for sure.

Paul76 profile image
Paul76

I don’t eat until lunch time but I have a hard boiled egg in the morning before I take my pred. No carbs and only about 80 cals.

Croft9232 profile image
Croft9232

Hi Alliekat65

I see your GP prescribed you Alendronic Acid. Did he also want you to have what is called a Dexa Scan? ( bone density). It is quite a harsh drug and it might be a case of you not needing to take it, if your bone health is good. The scan helps get a baseline and should be repeated every 2/3 years whilst taking your Prednisolone.

Others with more knowledge will hopefully be along with more explanation.

You are doing so well, it’s all quite daunting isn’t it! Just don’t overdo that housework or walking those 3 dogs, you can make them watch Crufts it starts today!

Best wishes to you.

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Alliekat65 in reply to Croft9232

lol was going to go but it gets so packed and with slight loss of eyesight and crowds and noise im stay inlucky we have big garden so dogs are fine.

Thank you again this place is AMAZING

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Alliekat65

You might like to read these - re eyesight -

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk....

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk...

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Alliekat65 in reply to DorsetLady

thank you so much x

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Pr0jection

I take my pred around 8.00 a.m. after a breakfast of porridge and blueberries. I try to keep my carbs low. I don't restrict myself completely, but I don't eat any pastries, cakes etc. I've cut out sugar and processed foods. I do eat full fat foods though, like yoghurt and butter because I don't like the additives put into low fat foods. My daily treat is dark chocolate! Good luck....

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Alliekat65 in reply to Pr0jection

LOVE DARK CHOCOLATE

sylla123 profile image
sylla123

I mostly have yogurt I like the Bliss Muller with the side pocket full of lemon curd, or cherry , but there are so many on the market to choose from and that is an easy breakfast ...

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Alliekat65

are they full fat or light please . ? I love lemon curd .

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