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I wonder if anyone on here can help.

I’m on a Prednisolone reduction programme currently down to 6mg,5mg,5mg,6mg and so forth plus 20mg daily of Omeprazole and 15mg weekly of methotrexate with one folic acid tablet weekly. I still have pain and stiffness but no where near as bad as I once did.

I’m going on holiday in a few weeks and it involves a four hour ferry crossing and is apparently quite a rough crossing (dreading that as I do get dreadful seasickness).

I wonder if I’d be ok to take travel sickness tablets for the journey on top of what I’m taking?

I can’t get through to my GP ( permanently engaged) and they are not near enough for me to just pop in and ask.

I’m in the U.K.

Thank you in advance

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SnazzyD profile image
SnazzyD

The person to ask is a pharmacist. Medication is their bread and butter, plus they are more accessible. Whilst on Pred I took seasickness meds and before that with no issues. What I would say is, when they tell you what you can take, experiment first. I found that one type made me off my trolley, such that my family had to keep me in the cabin until I stopped rambling on about having to keep my eyes wide open at all times. It is also handy to know how sleepy they will make you, so is it a case of pop and sleep or pop and go about your day. Lots of cruisers on a forum swear by eating green and apple and also sea bands which involve no ingestion. I find avoiding being hungry makes a big difference.

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Earthangel59 in reply to SnazzyD

Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to respond. Some very good advice.

I’ll see if I can speak to a pharmacist and maybe go as you say and try a couple out first.

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Charlie1boy in reply to SnazzyD

Love the picture of your dog on your avatar. Do you still have him/ her?

Paddy

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SnazzyD in reply to Charlie1boy

Oh yes, that’s Rory, a Romanian rescue with some Carpathian shepherd dog in him. Normally a that’s a larger breed but whatever he’s mixed with stunted his growth so the large paws when he was about 8 months there didn’t come to anything so he is a funny shape, bless him. He likes to play out his guarding genes from behind the safety of a fence.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to SnazzyD

My niece has a Romanian rescue too - and she is always on about how small he is!!!

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SnazzyD in reply to PMRpro

It seems to be a genetic feature of Rommie rescues that they have short legs and a long wheel base. Our other rescue Rommie obviously came from long legged sight hound thing and can run like lightning except some genes gave him the same issue. Unfortunately he can shift just when one doesn’t want him to. We did a genetic test on him and they got as far as spaniel, Labrador and Doberman before the database had a fit. He can’t decide whether to herd something or kill it, poor love.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to SnazzyD

Dobby looks like a miniature German shepherd!

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PMRproAmbassador

Snazzy has dealt with the pills, EAt before boarding - seriously, don;t travel on an empty stomach!!

What crossing are you using? By far the best aid to avoiding sea-sickness is to stay close to a window where you can see the horizon and keep looking out of the window, Being on deck somewhere safe is even better as then you have fresh air. I know it sounds counterintuitive but we were on a Calais ferry with a couple of panic stricken teens who were trying to find a seat with no view because they were feeling sick even in the harbour. We sat them down by the big picture windows - and voila, no more feeling sick!

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Earthangel59 in reply to PMRpro

Thank you. More good advice to remember. Going to The Isles of Scily from Penzance.

Notorious for being a choppy crossing and the Ferry is nicknamed ‘the chucket bucket’ 😱

Very early set off so will struggle to eat but will try and have something.

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply to Earthangel59

Mmm - just a relatively small bucket too I suppose!!! Hope you get there OK without feeling too bad.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

On a slightly different subject… I still have pain and stiffness but no where near as bad as I once did - guess you aren’t following the DSNS or my taper- but you have been given by doctor?

You might find rather than alternating as you are, which doesn’t sound quite right as you write it - you’d be better off reducing by 0.5mg a time, as using one of the tapers mentioned above. 1mg tablets provided they are plain uncoated one can be easily cut. And if you get to 5mg before you go on holiday, don’t start new taper until after you return…

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Earthangel59 in reply to DorsetLady

Following instructions from my rheumatologist. I have a pill cutter but my GP advised me against 0.5mg

Conflicting advice from those we trust is wearing.

I’m due to see my rheumatologist again 30th October by which time she wants me down to 5mg (tried before without success hence methotrexate ).

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Earthangel59

And on WHAT grounds did the GP "advise against 0.5mg"?

Funny - was talking to Prof Sarah Mackie last night about mixed messages, encouraging patients to reduce too quickly and adding in another immunosuppressant once the patient is well into single figures of pred ...

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Earthangel59 in reply to PMRpro

The rheumatologist said that I should be off Pred by now (2 years on it…started at 15mg) but as I’d had a flare when I got to 5mg she put me back up to 7mg and then told me to do what I’m doing now with a view to being back at 5mg by my next appointment and then put me on methotrexate to.

I was unsure about methotrexate and asked my go for advice. I said I wanted to come down off of the Pred by 0.5mg at a time so instead of reducing by 1mg monthly, straight off, could I reduce by 0.5mg weekly and he said no so I asked why I was given a pill cutter when I first started coming down from 15mg and he said the lower the dose the less effect 0.5mg will have.

After all this I’m going to do my own thing and instead of alternating I’m going to try 5.5mg daily for the next month.

Heck! Where would we all be without each other? We may not be medics but I’m damned sure as sufferers we are more clued up.

I feel the medics just sweep us under the carpet as hypochondriacs. That’s his mine make me feel anyway.

When I said I had hip pain recently he said it’s just wear and tear!

I’m 61

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Earthangel59

and he said the lower the dose the less effect 0.5mg will have.

Shows how little he knows…in fact many on here will tell you how much difference 0,5mg can and does make at lower doses…

What a plonker! — sorry he’s yours…. 😳

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Gossiplady in reply to DorsetLady

Hi there! What an idiot! 0.5mg is gold dust. Thank God for this forum.

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Earthangel59 in reply to Gossiplady

I took 6.00mg today after reading everything on here. I will stick with 6mg until after my holiday then TRY dropping to 5.5mg. I’m doing it my way from now on.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Earthangel59

If you get to 5mg on your own I would absolutely refuse to go on MTX - at the meeting last night we were ranting about the 2 year myth of PMR. And yes, it is true that a lot of rheumies don't want to see PMR patients - they think it is beneath them.

"he said the lower the dose the less effect 0.5mg will have." - stupid man!!! That is EXACTLY when 1/2mg makes more difference, It is a greater percentage of the dose you are changing and you will feel it more.

I was going to ask of your GP was any better but apparently not ...

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PMR_sufferer1 in reply to PMRpro

I believe pred reduction is best managed by the patient as they know inside how they feel. Pain back go up a bit pain down go down a bit. But not too fast a reduction.I dont believe in being in pain purely to be a hero your body tells you what is best.

I am now at 6 i had a little flare my fingers hurt a little in the morning and i had slightly strange pains in muscles. Not bad ones but i knew they were not normal for me.

I do split dose pred I always have.

I have made sure my second pred is taken slightly later in the ecening and all this new pain has gone.

What i am saying "I think"" is you know your body best so take control by thinking of little.changes based on what your body tells you.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to PMR_sufferer1

Quite!

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

but my GP advised me against 0.5mg

Do you know why? The vast majority of patients on here find reducing by that amount when on singles figures a godsend.. and much easier than the alternating dose you are on… but then what would patients actually know about anything 🤔

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Gossiplady in reply to DorsetLady

Wonderful! We are so thick, aren’t we? Lol.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Gossiplady

Apparently!

Good job we know better 🤣😂

Monkey321 profile image
Monkey321

Hi, drink ginger beer on the trip, it helps settles your tummy. Also if you can sit outside in the middle of the boat, look out on the horizon, not straight down. Ring a pharmacist and get the seasickness brand they recommend. They know as much as doctors about all that. Besides all that, have paper bags at the ready (hopefully they're not needed). Enjoy your holiday.

Earthangel59 profile image
Earthangel59

thank you. Good idea and I love ginger beer. I’ve got paper bags on stand by as last time only one was provided and…well, you can imagine 🤢

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Monkey321 in reply to Earthangel59

Ha, loved your comment, I can well imagine 1 wasn't "enough". I always dread a ferry crossing so you have my sympathies.

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Molly555

I too am travel sick, I find eating doughnuts helpful, ( bizarre I know,). Fills your stomach but not heavy , also if you are ill, not too disgusting ( sorry to say that but it’s true and best to be prepared). 🤣. All the other advice true, fresh air, watch horizon etc, Have a fab holiday!

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Earthangel59 in reply to Molly555

Thank you

Pippah45 profile image
Pippah45

I used to dread any sea crossings and I agree about asking pharmacist. I also use ginger pills. In a former life I was an army wife and did tours in Northern Germany. North Sea crossings of 14 ot 16 hours!! At one party I was talking to one of the ferry Captains and he said Brits make a classic mistake and try travelling on an empty stomach! DON'T! So I listened and make sure I eat plenty! That works although I still try not to eat on a moving boat. A packet of ginger biscuits to nibble. Enjoy the trip.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Pippah45

Albeit not so far, Oban to Lochboisdale with good old CalMac in the 80s used to be fun as well especially in the winter! With 2 kids, cat & dog …. Ahh the joys of being an army wife… 😊

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to DorsetLady

Anything with CalMac was a experience!

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to PMRpro

Too true….. 😳

herdysheep profile image
herdysheep in reply to PMRpro

Soon to experience a variation on the 'cruise theme'!

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herdysheep in reply to DorsetLady

Oh that's prompted memories of Lochboisdale shop - sheep dip alongside sliced bread (of the dunlopillow variety) and every thing else you might need but might not. Wonderful place to browse

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to herdysheep

Try living there for 2 years in the early 80s…

Bit too much of the 1880s than the 1980s at times….,but all added to life’s rich tapestry…😉

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herdysheep in reply to DorsetLady

To be fair it was probably late 70's when I had my longest time there but didn't have to deal with family life etc and 1880's a fair description!!!

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jayemmemm

There's an excellent helicopter service from Penzance to the Isles of Scilly which I have used many times. Might that be an option for you?

Best of luck whichever way you travel

Earthangel59 profile image
Earthangel59 in reply to jayemmemm

I would love to but the others I’m going with don’t want to sadly

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Trouble it can be cancelled if weather too windy- as my daughter discovered last time she went….

Earthangel59 profile image
Earthangel59 in reply to DorsetLady

Fingers crossed 🤞🏻

S4ndy profile image
S4ndy

I am a terrible sailor. Sturgeon is my drug of choice. Cinnarizine is the active ingredient. My pharmacist and gp both said it was OK for me to take with my pred (5mg a day long term). I take other meds too and was warned that the Stugeron might make me drowsy with my other meds. This wasn't an issue as I wasn't driving steering or sailing just a passenger. I would check with your own pharmacy when you buy your pills just to be sure.

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Pawscat11 in reply to S4ndy

I also get very travel sick even flying and take stugeron as well. It makes me a bit groggy but no other effects with prednisone etc. I take 2 pills.

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Slowmo43

You might consider getting a Relief Band. I always travel wearing one just in case motion sickness hits. Reliefband sits on the underside of the wrist, delivering pulses that stimulate the median nerve. These signals travel through the body's nervous system to the part of the brain that controls nausea and vomiting. Check out the website relief band.com. They are available on Amazon and other retailers.

Earthangel59 profile image
Earthangel59

thank you. I will definitely look into this

Qula profile image
Qula

The crossing from Penzance to Scilly isles won’t be as long as four hours, it takes approx 2 hours 45 mins.

I wish you a smooth sea and a wonderful holiday.

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Earthangel59 in reply to Qula

Thank you.

The infantry states to allow for up to four hours for the crossing. I suppose it depends on conditions. I’ve not been before so I hope it is only 2 hours and 45 mins.

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