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Hello Forum members,

I’m new to this Forum, but not new to PMR.

My state-of-play is that I was diagnosed with PMR back in Feb 2015, when I started with Pred.

The diagnosis took a while, but we got there in the end and Pred made an almost unbelievable difference once I was on it.

I finished with Pred in Aug 2017 and that was that - I thought.

The tapering with Pred wasn’t entirely smooth, but I now know how much better things would have been, physically and mentally, had I known about various tapering plans that are readily available via PMRGCAuk.

But then, I didn’t know about a Forum such as this either, which would have made a huge difference to everything.

Just recently, I was back at my doc’s with what I suspected was PMR raising its head again. I had bilateral probs starting to kick off in shoulders and groins, and I was pretty sure that it was PMR.

My doc was great (he listens!) but was reluctant to kick off Pred again in case it wasn’t PMR. I agreed with that. He triggered some bloods and arranged an x-ray of my hips.

At the follow-up appointment a fortnight later, my doc said that my CRP was raised and he took one look at the very much increased pain I was in and agreed there and then that it was PMR.

That was good, as by then I had no doubt. It was all so familiar!

It had become pretty interesting in shoulders, neck, lower back, groins and knees.

The pain was round the clock. The usual: couldn’t sleep much as there was no position that really helped; rolling to get out of bed quite an experience; trying to put on a sock and actually tying a shoelace a marathon of very severe pain; stepping into underwear without support not possible; getting into or out of my car resulting in gasping and being white-faced after having had to lift at least one leg by hand.

And so on. Many here will know the score.

Pretty grim, yes, but as the memory of it all came back I hung onto telling myself “pretty normal”.

I started back with Pred a couple of weeks ago.

Talk about a miracle!

Within a matter of hours on the very first day, the pain was reducing beautifully.

We’re all different, but by the time I recommenced with Pred the pain had reached a point where I couldn’t have cared less about having to revert to Pred. Nothing mattered, except getting that desperate pain under control.

That frame of mind has stayed with me - plus more in large part thanks to the content of this Forum.

I accept that my PMR has resurfaced and that I was ‘merely’ in remission.

I accept that I need Pred.

I accept the whole deal, and I am grateful that it’s nothing worse, that I have a wonderful doctor who will listen to what I say when it comes to tapering, that there’s a Forum such as this with some remarkable folk posting.

My wife died in Apr 2018. We were separated, but we still cared for one another and that was perfectly comfortable.

Her illness was very rare (about 1 per million per year in this part of the world) and it brought her great suffering.

Eventually, I became her full-time carer.

Her blood was maintained through many, many transfusions as we battled to keep platelets and haemoglobin at a reasonable level while we hoped that the many meds she was on would prompt her immune system to revert to what it once and stop destroying things.

Through it all, she had desperately low white blood cells (can’t transfuse those) and eventually she had weakened to the point where the inevitable infections finally overcame her.

The day came when I held her hand and talked gently to her as she took her final breath.

I mention this because, inevitably, it puts my current PMR well and truly into perspective.

Another ‘perspective reckoner’ is the fact that the cancer for which I had surgery back in Feb 2015 has not returned.

So, bad luck for me about PMR being well and truly back.

Well, tough!

Because it’s so ‘minor’ compared with what my wife had and went through, all with just about no hope (and actually without a single word of complaint - not one).

I have access to Pred that is once again controlling things better and better as the days go by.

I have access to this wonderful Forum.

I have a good doc who is not only knowledgeable but who listens readily (otherwise he wouldn’t be my doc).

I have hugely more knowledge of my condition than last time around, thanks to this wonderful Forum.

I have tools, such as a terrific spreadsheet I downloaded from PMRGCAuk for tracking my Pred history, as well as a downloaded Taper Plan (same source) all ready to go when the time is right (no hurry).

This time, it all feels so different.

Doing much reading in this Forum has given me a whole lot of strength. Setting up the tools I downloaded from PMRGCAuk has added considerably to underscoring that. I feel, now, that I have a plan and know how I’m going to do my level best to face this, instead of bouncing helplessly off events that, last time, left me pretty much bewildered.

It’s a big difference.

My heart goes out to anyone freshly diagnosed with PMR.

One way and another, it can come as one heckuva a shock.

But it’s what it is. Everything isn’t ‘all over’ with the diagnosis, and there’s masses of help and understanding and input right here, on this Forum.

For me, my personal take is that PMR isn’t going to kill me. I can control the pain brilliantly with Pred, I know how I’m going to tackle the whole deal and, perhaps as important as anything else, I accept it all.

Basically - I’m up for it.

And I’m not afraid.

I send greetings to all on this Forum, as well a Huge Appreciations to all those who input so much and so well.

None of is alone.

PredAgainJersey

P.S.

Sorry to have ‘gone on’ so much!

Oh, before I go…

I have an app (free) for my Android phone that tracks my meds and provides reminders, etc. It’s hugely useful and is called Medisafe (no connection of any sort with me).

I first got it to help with my wife’s arsenal of meds.

There are others, but that’s what I’m using as one of my tools in my PMR journey.

PAJ

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MhairiP profile image
MhairiP

Hello PAJ - and welcome to the forum. I'm so sorry to hear about your wife, but as you say, it puts things in perspective. PMR is horrendous and can be life-changing, but it's not life-threatening.

I'm currently in remission and grateful for every day I'm PMR-free. I hope your journey goes smoothly!

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PredAgainJersey in reply to MhairiP

Thank you so much for your words, and your welcome.

Yes, PMR is no joke - but it’s not the end of the world.

It’s good to read that your PMR is in remission. May it well and truly stay there for you!

Every best wish,

PAJ

Hi PAJ, I am so sorry to hear your story. I haven't nursed a partner, but both parents over a few years. It is very hard and stressful. To be honest, as you may have read, the grief you will have gone through probably contributed to the relapse of PMR. It's good you have a supportive Dr and your response to pred was good. From what I have read I think that oftentimes the second go on the merry go round of pmr is of shorter duration. But you know what that means in context of pmr.. It is like asking how longs a piece of string. Now you are controlling inflammation enjoy the pain free life but don't knock yourself out! Best wishes and welcome. 🌻

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PredAgainJersey in reply to

Hi Poopadoops,

Thanks for your words - and wisdom.

Yes, it had occurred to me that everything involved with my wife’s illness and death might well have triggered my PMR relapse.

Darned good to read that, with a little luck, this second go-around might turn out to be of shorter duration. Now, that’s One Good Thought!

Meanwhile, Pred is working away and it’s not so bad.

Thanks, again, for your words and your welcome.

Every best wish,

PAJ

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Yellowbluebell

Hi, welcome to the forum. You seem a very strong person and you have managed to cope with all you have suffered already and your wifes illness on top of this. Hopefully we can help you through this 2nd dose of pmr. There is always someone around day and night should you just need to download or ask specific questions. Good luck on uour joirney and please stay in contact with us. YBB

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PredAgainJersey in reply to Yellowbluebell

Hi YBB,

Well, dunno about being a strong person!

But I’ll certainly give it a go!

Thanks for your kind words and your lovely welcome. Both mean much.

I’ll be staying in contact with this remarkable Forum, and it feels so good to have that prospect in place. I don’t know how/why it makes a yuck PMR day so much better - but it does!

Every best wish,

PAJ

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Hi, and welcome this time around.

What an uplifting and enlightening post despite the fact that you’ve got PMR again and the loss of your wife. - my condolences.

You are so right in that PMR, with all its problems, is certainly a much easier ride that many illnesses.

Acceptance is most definitely the key to getting through this - and life in general- and let’s hope this post will reassure new and existing patients that life with PMR and Pred is not as bad as they may think.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to DorsetLady

Hi DorsetLady,

Well, thank you!

That’s to say, thank you for your beautiful welcome and what you said.

Thank you, too, for your condolences.

Yes, acceptance is such a key to so much - PMR included. That’s become my ‘cornerstone’, in fact.

Without that, I’d probably revert to the ‘poor me’ that, years ago, would have featured in me - with all the probs that come from that.

So, on we go.

PMR resurfacing is a new chapter in my life. I didn’t want it and I don’t exactly like it! But there’s much worse that can happen - and I’ll see it off over time (hopefully!).

With all good wishes,

PAJ

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What a fantastic post - thank you so much for taking the time to write it and welcome. I could have written much of what you say. And so sorry to hear about your wife - separation is one thing, this is another.

I was going to ask was that the Pred again pullover (as in green hairy pullover) but I see it really is Jersey! I think we had someone from one of the Channel Islands but she struggled to get good care. I'm glad you have a good GP.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to PMRpro

Hi PMRpro,

Well, I don’t think it was fantastic at all! Just my story.

Thank you, though, for your welcome and for what you said.

Had to have a good laugh about Jersey/pullover! I really did laugh aloud at that!

It’s a shame about someone from the Channel Islands not getting readily available decent care. Particularly with PMR it’s so often about the individual quality of the GP involved, and I’m very lucky there.

I was telling my GP about the Pred tapering plan I’ll be adopting when it’s time. He was very interested, and fully accepting that I know how it’s likely to go.

Makes a huge difference.

With best wishes,

PAJ

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to PredAgainJersey

It was fantastic - because you covered an awful lot of realities about PMR and living with it. All in one place.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to PMRpro

Well, OK {{Blush}}.

The days are varying quite a bit at this stage (couple of weeks into Pred) much as expected. I'm coming down from an initial pretty high dose (30mg).

Be good when things are more settled with levelled off input of Pred and then, in the fullness of time, getting on the tapering side of things.

No hurry, though, as I know that's pointless with tapering and, in fact, can so easily work out longer overall anyway.

Thanks, once again.

PAJ

Hi PAJ, I am so sorry to hear you are back with us... what a lovely, positive, upbeat post! Good on you! I hope you are able to continue to hold onto those thoughts and feelings... However, I'm sure it did come as a "heckuva a shock." Hang in there and welcome back.

“Once again... welcome to my house. Come freely. Go safely; and leave something of the happiness you bring.” ~ Bram Stoker (Dracula)

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PredAgainJersey in reply to

Hi Idyllic,

Thanks so much for your welcome, and for everything you said.

I’m glad that my post came across as upbeat, but it was just my story and how I am these days.

The recommencement of PMR was not exactly something to celebrate! But it’s as it is, and it isn’t going to finish me.

It’s good to be welcome in your house, and I’ll hopefully leave some of the happiness I bring.

I feel happiness just through being here.

It’s a good feeling.

With best wishes,

PAJ

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PMRCanada

Sorry to hear of your PMR returning, however this time it sounds like you are better equipped and supported....a great Dr. really helps, as does this forum.

Your loss of your wife in 2018, and the stress of caregiving may have contributed to its return. Many of us have experienced stressful events prior to the onset of PMR symptoms.

I’m glad you’ve found us, we will “get it” better than most who don’t have a lived experience of PMR/GCA. You have great insight and understanding of your body, and this will help you along the way. As you mentioned, you may want to adopt one of the tapering plans available to you this time around.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to PMRCanada

Hi PMRCanada,

Thank you for your lovely welcome to this Forum.

Yes, I had thought that everything involved with my wife’s illness and then her death might well have been what triggered PMR again.

But for whatever reason it’s back, and I can’t change that.

All I can do is handle it as well as I can, so that I will be able to look back with some pride (hopefully!).

Meanwhile, it’s a blessing to have the GP I have. He was just the best possible though my wife’s illness, and he even took time out to write to me supportively after she died.

It’s a very good feeling to be here, in this remarkable Forum, and made to feel so welcome.

Thank you.

With every good wish,

PAJ

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Blearyeyed

Nice to meet you and welcome to our group of Faraway Friends.

Please drop in any time with a post about how you are getting on , and if you see any differences in having PMR second time around .

Keep reading and replying to posts and join in , getting all the support , or giving tips , as part of the helpful community that the forum offers.

Good luck with PMR Round 2

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PredAgainJersey in reply to Blearyeyed

Hi Blearyeyed,

Thanks so much for your welcome to this Forum.

That was good of you.

Yes, I’ll be glad to post as to how things are going with this PMR Round 2. Also, to give any help/support I can.

Didn’t expect to be in this boat, but then I didn’t actually give it any thought once Round 1 was all wrapped up and the whole business was gone (I thought!).

Shows what I knew!

With best wishes to you,

PAJ

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Louisepenygraig

Welcome. What an interesting post. I'm.sorry to hear of all the difficulties you've been having, it's maybe not surprising that PMR has resurfaced. You seem to have a positive attitude to it though which must help.

I use the medisafe app to and find it really helpful.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to Louisepenygraig

Hi Louisepenygraig,

Thanks so much for your welcome to this Forum.

It means much.

Yes, it had struck me that the resurfacing of PMR might well have been the result of all that was involved with my wife’s illness and death.

Who can know?

But it’s back, and I’ll just have to get on with it.

Good to see that you use the Medisafe app as well. Don’t quite know how I’d manage without it, now.

I wish you all well with your journey.

And, thanks again.

PAJ

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Whitner

Welcome PAJ . So sorry to hear of your wife’s passing and the return of your PMR. You have an amazing attitude. I was recently diagnosed with PMR and I have found this a wonderful resource and know you will too.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to Whitner

Hi Whitner,

Thanks for the welcome!

Glad that you think my attitude’s OK - although I truly don’t, as it just seems to follow on, logically, from sharing all my wife’s dreadful suffering and death.

PMR isn’t easy, as we all know. I’m not seeking to minimise it.

But I’m all set to handle it this time around and, hopefully, I’ll be able to look back with some pride when it’s finally wrapped up again.

That’s the plan, anyway!

With every best wish,

PAJ

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to PredAgainJersey

That is the point - in the great scheme of things PMR is nowhere near the top of the pile. But until you experience the really bad you may not appreciate what is actually more a blip in the road!

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PredAgainJersey in reply to PMRpro

Oh, well said!

Yes, it can feel quite a blip, but it isn't the end of everything.

Very much a matter of accepting and adjusting, then patiently working steadily to a good outcome (we hope!).

So far, it's going reasonably OK. Quite a bit of pain popped back yesterday, but it's very early days in this recurrence of PMR.

Anyway, today is much better - so all is well!

PAJ

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SheffieldJane

Thank you for a moving and inspirational post.

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PredAgainJersey in reply to SheffieldJane

Hello SheffieldJane,

Thanks for what you said.

It means much, although all that I did was outline my story so far.

Yes, PMR revisiting hasn’t exactly been the best thing I could have wished for, but here it is and I’ll get on with it (hopefully!).

It would be good to be able to look back on this chapter in my life, once it’s over, with some degree of pride.

That’s the target, anyway!

Meanwhile, very best wishes to you,

And, thanks again.

PAJ

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OutdoorsyGal

Dittos to all the others have said.

Hopefully being male will help you pull out of this remission more quickly, as (some) males seem to have an easier time of it with PMR.

Not sure why, but anecdotally, anyway, that’s how it seems to me.

Sorry about your losses, but celebrating your great attitude!

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PredAgainJersey in reply to OutdoorsyGal

Thank you so much, OudoorsyGal,

That’s an interesting point you make - that there’s a fair bit of anecdotal indicating that males can have an easier time with PMR.

Some aspects of the PMR and Pred combination can be just about impossible to quantify. Individual physiological reactions to it all will vary for all sorts of reasons, and on top of that I suspect that women might have a much tougher time of it in with resultant hormone changes.

Dunno - just my suspicion.

I was chatting with my doc the other day about various potential side effects of Pred, and he said, “Never forget that it’s a very powerful drug.”

Anyway, perhaps being male it’s easier for me to have the attitude I do - and I’m darned grateful for that.

Basically, any ‘freebies’ going with this journey are most welcome!

Thanks again, and best wishes,

PAJ

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OutdoorsyGal in reply to PredAgainJersey

Yes , PAJ, so many of the “joys” of menopause are similar to the side effects of prednisone: hair loss, bone loss, irritability, skin changes, painful sex... The list of fun goes on and on!

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HeronNS

Thank you for sharing your story. 🌼

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PredAgainJersey

Thanks for that, HeronNS.

Since posting, I've been made so welcome on this remarkable Forum that it has actually felt pretty humbling.

In a way that I can't express, it's made having this recurrence of PMR feel better than it otherwise would have done.

I am truly grateful.

It's early days for me as yet - just two weeks into Pred and coming down from an initial pretty high dose.

Be good when things have settled down more, but that will come.

I do hope that your final tapering is successful for you.

With every best wish,

PAJ

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Highlandtiger

I enjoyed reading your post and wish you all the best in your journey this time.

Thanks also for mentioning the Medisafe app. I think I'd heard about it before but didn't think I needed it. I thought I'd give it a try so I downloaded it this time (there's an Apple version too) and after only a couple of days I love it. The wee reminder coming through on my watch every so often is wonderful - keeps me right.

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PredAgainJersey

Thank you, Highlandtiger,

For your welcome and for your good wishes.

I'm so glad that you're finding the Medisafe app useful. I wouldn't be without mine, now.

Having some useful tools for the journey really helps with things, I find. They seem to provide a 'prop' that goes beyond their immediate usefulness.

I wish you well with your journey and your continued Pred tapering.

Thanks again, and every best wish,

PAJ

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