Well ....finally had my tooth out today at a London hospital. ( because of taking alendronic acid it had to be a dental surgeon)
I was gowned up and a cloth put over my eyes which was quite disorientating. Took 40 mins to get the b....y thing out and I got a bit sweaty and shaky. I’d been told to double my dose of pred so I’m not in any pain at the moment. The surgeon said that AA never leaves the system and then said that he’d looked at my X-ray and informed me that the crowned tooth next to the extraction has a little bit of decay in it!! Looks as if I’ll be going back there in the near future. What a pain!! (literally). And stitches!!
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AA has a half live estimated to be in excess of 120 months, mutliply that by about 5-5.5 and you have the lenght of time the drug stays in your system. If you're 55 taking AA it will be in your system another 55 years.
I used to be scared years ago Angie but I’ve got a lovely calming dentist now. It had to come out, it had a fractured root. Must say, the dental surgeon was really handsome with lovely manners.
Poor you but well done for getting through it. I feel a bit sweaty and shaky listening to you. Hope you don't get too much after pain. Awful places the dentist - do I presume you were awake! Get over this before you let them near you again! xxx
Yes I was awake. At one point I thought he was going to kneel on my chest like they do in cartoons. I was traumaed for a while. Had to go home on the underground which didn’t help. Had my lovely friend with me though.
OMG. I had to go home on the tube following lumbar puncture which hadn’t been straight forward, the things we have to do. Bet you couldn’t wait to get home - it was a good job you had your lovely friend with you. Hope you’re recovering well! 💐 X
Sympathy to you Sue!! I stoppef alendronic acid when my tooth problems started! I visited the dentist 24 times last year and a further 6 visits to a specialist where I had a tooth implant! So tooth fairy in reverse as he put a tooth back in after I had to wear a denture for a year! It cost me more than a sixpence😂
Exhausted after seeing my lovely Rheumatologist Sarah Mackie in Otley. The traffic coming back was bonkers. She thinks I may have psoriatic arthritis. I am falling apart here Sue.
I am afraid she is suggesting Methotrexate. She promised that it would make me slim and beautiful. Yes, because I would feel too sick to eat. I have a stay of execution because I am going to Australia for a month in late March and I would need to be under her care here. It could be contributing to my stop start taper though. Three years is long in Rheumie world ( my PMR duration). She disputes the 5.9 years, which is a worry because I repeat that. Do you remember the source?
Must remember to tell her I gained a kilo in a month on mtx - though it was together with pred and seemed to enhance the pred adverse effects I'd never had a problem with previously!
Eric Matteson at the Mayo on the basis of a restrospective study - which will have flaws but IMHO is still valid in that it agrees with what I have seen on the forums. PMR typically lasts 4 to 5 years for a large bulk of patients.
The Psoriasis is only on the soles of my feet but it can ping inflammation all over your joints. Pred possibly kept a lid on it at higher doses. Currently on 5.5 mgs.
I've had a lot of tooth problems since this started too. Had two teeth extracted. One a back one. One half way between back and front. Working on getting my insurance company to pay for at least part of an implant as I can't seem to keep my tongue out of the space. Driving me crazy lol. Hope you heal well.
I have had 'A Word', with the Tooth Fairy and- the Good News Is-YES, she can add you to her 'Round'. The Bad news is, since the Austerity 'Cut Backs', she has to Charge £4,052- plus VAT- per visit. She has told me that, if you DO want her to visit, just to leave the Tooth- Plus the Money- under the pillow......Rest assured that you will get a 'Crisp' £5.00 note, in exchange.
I'm not Too Sure that, under these terms, you might want her to visit but, if you do, just let me know and I can arrange it for you. It's Nice to Know these 'things' are still available, isn't it?
On a more Serious note, Good luck with the Dental work. Can you not get ALL, the work, done together? Just a thought, though it might be too much for one visit. Mind you, you can ask. I had Three extractions, done together, a few years back.
I have Politely Declined, The Tooth Fairy, on your behalf. I didn't tell her 'B...er Off', simply that you didn't require her Services. You never know you Might Need her Services, one day, especially if 'Tooth Fairy Services' is incorporated into the NHS. (That way it will be FREE, 'for Under Sixteens, Students of any age, Disabled People, Those with Chronic, or Life Threatening Conditions (you may well qualify) or War Veterans' everyone else would Pay £10,000- plus a 'One Off' Joining fee of £2,651 (mustn't forget the '1'). So, you see, it's maybe better to stay on her Good Side.
You might think that The Tooth Fairy is expensive.....You wait, and see, How Much Santa, is going to Charge 'Grown Ups', next Christmas! Each Individual Reindeer has to have a 'Certificated Of Air Worthiness', submitted in Triplicate- each copy signed by a Judge- even before Permission can be sought from the C.A.A. On top of this 'The North Pole Treaty' (anyone receiving a 'Present From Santa' must abide by this) states there should be 'At Least Two Reserve Reindeer', in case of an accident. Couple this with the Elves Demanding more pay AND Union Representation. The 'Fuss' kicked up, by the Animal Rights people...….
Seriously though I, really do, hope that All Goes Well, for you, Suet.
I'm glad that I made you laugh, it's always Good to raise a smile.
Yes I 'know' Mark Benjamin too, a Good Sense Of Humour. Did you read his Posts about being 'Kidnapped'? (Letters to, and from, Kidnappers, Solicitors and so forth. 'They' finally Returned him, when 'They' Found Out NO Ransom would be Paid- and 'They' might be STUCK With Him. Very Funny 'Ongoing' Post(s), well worth Finding.) Clearly I contributed, to that.
Can I be inquisitive and ask if you are a Boy, Or Girl? Not that it 'Matters' really, it's just nice to know. (I could be, even more, of a 'Nosey B....r' and ask where you are from....Maybe I won't ask that....I Certainly WON'T ask how old you are.....Definite 'No No'.) I'm a FAT (Probably Obese) male, of Fifty-Seven (just) and live in Supported Living, in Clacton- on-Sea ('Miles' from the sea though). I have had 'Non Specific ANCA Vasculitis, for over Twenty Years. I had a Kidney Transplant, in July 2013, following four years on Dialysis. The Vasculitis Attacked my Heart, Brain and Kidneys- hence the Transplant. Non of which, seems to, have affected my Funny Bones.....
A Monkey gets into the bath "O-O-O-O- A-A-A-A, W-A-A-A-A, H-O-O-O-O-O-AH-O-O-AH-AH-AH-AH...." goes the Monkey. To which the Monkey's Wife says "Well put some COLD in then!!" Where do you Weigh Wales....at a Wale Weigh Station (that's quite old). Where do you Weigh Pies?......Somewhere Over the Rainbow- Weigh A Pie! How do you tell, if there is an Elephant in bed with you? There are three ways....One- There isn't much Room, Two- Your bed is in the Basement, whilst your head is in the attic. However, the real 'Clincher' is …..Three- He has a 'E' on his pyjamas Here is one I'll Leave you with, see if you can solve it....What begins with 'T', ends with 'T' and is full of 'T'? Ok one more....If you take the Salt & Pepper, Mustard, Vinegar and Ketchup into the kitchen....Is that CONDIMENTS to the Chef?
Let me know, about the 'T' one Suet. Kindest Wishes
Hi Andrew. I think that maybe TEAPOT!. I hope I don’t look like a boy in my photo! I live in Essex, Rainham, and I am older than you, birthday next week. You have been through the mill! X
Yes, your Photo, IS rather a Give Away.....To think I had my Eyes Tested- only last week! (You are clearly a Bloomin' Bootifal Gal!) Well done on the Teapot. How about 'What Cheese can "Negate" the smell of a Horse?' 'What Cheese is Made backwards?' What Goes 'Up A Chimney Down' but WON'T 'Go Down a Chimney Up'?
I Could tell you, the story, about the Butter....but you would only go and Spread it. What did the Baby Chick say, when it's Mother laid an orange? 'Oh look what Mamma Laid.
This is actually True, no really....Common Grammatical Errors- when you say, to someone 'You smell'....No they don't- You 'Smell' (sniff, sniff) They 'Stink'. To 'Smell' is the actual action of Smelling. A little girl runs into her Mother, after School, she is Clearly VERY upset "Mummy, Mummy God made me 'All Wrong', He did, He did, He DID!" She wailed. "What makes you think that Darling" asked her Mother patiently. "Well Mummy" begins the girl "In school Today, we were told that 'We have a Nose, for Smelling and Feet for Running. But Mummy.....I have a Nose that Runs and Feet that Smell!"
Anyway, as Porky Pig, would say 'The, The, The, That's All Folks!'
Whilst you are considering the Riddles...What is Black and White a and Re(a)d all over?
When I was younger living along in London, I went to the uni hospital and was given a student to extract a wisdom tooth (for free). He was short and not much meat on the bone. He struggled to no avail for 45 mins. Finally he gave up, a qualified dentist walked in and two seconds later the tooth was out. Since then I have happily (!?) paid loads of money at the dentist! One plus is with PMR and AA it will be FREE! X
The best bit about the bling is that gold is a natural antobiotic - and neither of us have had significant tooth decay since then. OH didn't go to the dentist for over 13 years when we lived in Germany and after we returned to Scotland - when he did go when you had to register to be able to get check-ups on the NHS or risk being forced to go privately there was nothing to be done at all.
Thank you for your update and I am so pleased that it went well for you and good luck with a speedy recovery from the trauma. As I have said previously I am due, at some time, to have possibly the same with my top back molar. I saw my Dentist last week for my routine check up. He took a further Exray and, I think maybe because I am on Riveroxaban medication since my hip replacement last year which concerns me, he is agreeing with me that as I am not getting really bad pain at the moment to leave it for the time being but not to hesitate to contact him if the pain gets worse. Did you have to pay privately to have your treatment in hospital. Would appreciate further updates in the future. D
Hi Dot. No, apparently as it’s an nhs referral I will be charged nhs rates. My friend had an extraction in the same hospital last year and she never was charged. Here’s hoping!
You are lucky, because dental surgeons are usually much gentler then dentists. They do less damage to the bone structure when extracting the tooth. I had tooth that broke removed by dental surgeon and it was much less painful and also he was extra careful with bones in the jaw since he was doing implant at the same location.
Just read your 3-day old post Suet. Don't know why I haven't seen it earlier. I had my upper back tooth out yesterday (Saturday) by a surgeon who comes periodically to my dental surgery. I had to pay £110. Wonder why my dentist didn't offer me hospital. Tooth was broken off at gum level with a few jaggy edges. She told me to rest for 24 hours. I have to say I don't feel great today. I was dreading it. It took about 15 minutes to get it out. Glad you got through it okay. No antibiotics for me. I'm so glad it's over, as you must be.
Have to say I was so glad to get rid of the thing, it never occurred to me to question the price. It was an old root canal tooth and the taste I was getting in my mouth from it was making me feel sick. I'm sure I lost a few friends recently because of bad breath uuuuugggg.
I'm both - half NHS and half private. I don't think my surgery does difficult extractions on NHS - they have a surgeon who comes to do it. Extra money for the surgeon I suppose. She was good, said antibiotics weren't necessary, told me to rest for 24 hours (which I haven't) and told me not to rinse my mouth for two days, so as not to wash the clot away which would help it to heal quicker, otherwise I could get a dry socket, whatever that is. I didn't bleed.
I'm sorry to hear you are not feeling so good. Amazed you went on the underground, very brave. She did tell me that sometimes it can affect the sinuses, but if the sinus problem doesn't go away you must see the GP.
I have had a bad headache since having the extraction. Sure it's something to do with the injections. Suet, rest up and take things easy for a few days and hopefully your sinuses will improve.
I used to get terrible headaches after a local anaesthetic. So bad I would have dental treatment without any injections. Then a lovely dentist suggested it might be the adrenaline that is part of some local anaesthetic - it causes the blood vessels to shrink and so there is less bleeding. You can elect to not have that bit - just say beforehand. I now have shots without and have no problems at all. And no pain either!!!
Thank you for the info. PMRpro. Didn't know I shouldn't drink with a straw - that's exactly what I've been doing all day. Must say I do feel a bit wary about rinsing my mouth now. Just couldn't face for something else to go wrong.
I never have injections when having teeth filled. Many years ago I blacked out with a back injection - gum didn't go numb and I could feel myself going out - dentist tipped the chair upside down, so my feet were in the air. He told me afterwards that some of the injection must have gone into a vein. Apparently very veinous around that area. Never went to that dentist again and never had injections for dental work.
Unfortunately when I was having tests for lung cancer, when I had the bronchoscopy they needed to spray - Lidocane? - down my throat, the same stuff the dentists use. I kicked up such a fuss and gave them a hard time, saying I was allergic, so he had to spray a tiny bit on my tongue first to see how I reacted to it. That was okay, so he went ahead and sprayed more and deeper into my throat. Of course I wasn't allergic. All because of a not very clever dentist. If I need a filling, I just used a bit of psicoprofilaxis, grip the the chair arms and let the tears roll.
Yes - like me for years until I got this super dentist. And when I mention it now - no problem. Mind you - even if it was that the lignocaine got into a vein, the spray shouldn't be as bad anyway. But, like you, I have had a couple of awful dentists!!!
I once had 4 injections (with adrenaline) within the space of 30 minutes as the dentist tried to numb the area - I ended up sitting in the waiting area, dizzy, terrible backache, feeling sick: dentist passed by saying, 'OK? off to lunch now' - pat on the shoulder. End of adrenaline and dentist.
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