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Hello wise ones

I’ve been reading a lot lately about restoring our natural biome by using controlled infections of gut parasites. Apparently there have been some amazing results with allergies and autoimmune diseases and serious research is taking place. Does anyone have inside knowledge or first hand experience?

I can’t imagine big pharma is going to be keen on this!

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piglette

I have read some quite interesting books on this. Gut for example.

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There was some discussion a few years ago on one of the forums. Never heard any more though. I'll let them suss it out first - always a good way to go I feel ;-)

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Primarose

OMG Worms!!

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Bamber99

I’m currently reading a book called the Diet Myth that focuses a lot on the Microbiome / gut health / gut bacteria . It’s incredibly interesting. There’s still much research to be done but it could be health care of the future. The current wisdom is that to have the best gut health you should eat the biggest variety of foods possible. A variety of colours of fruit & veg. The variety of foods gives the biggest variety of bacteria. I seem to recall that unpasteurised cheese is good and the suggestion not to wash your Veg etc too much ( can’t bring myself to do that) I tend to skim read so only retain minimal information, best read for yourselves! I’ve listened to a few podcasts about this too.

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HeronNS in reply to Bamber99

When I worked at the library during nutrition month we'd do a bulletin board display (in the children's department) of a collage of delicious healthy foods and the words, "Eat a rainbow every day".

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tangocharlie in reply to HeronNS

I like that, a much more positive alternative to 'Avoid the beige carbs'. However, I've read up on the Auto Immune Paleo (AIP) diet that says avoid some veg that are toxic to our systems, like peppers, sweetcorn, chilli (from the nightshade family).

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to tangocharlie

I omitted nightshades at one point - made not the slightest difference except to make my diet boring...

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tangocharlie in reply to PMRpro

Same here, though I don't get why anyone would want to eat a green pepper :)

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to tangocharlie

Me neither - red and yellow only, apparently orange ones don't get a passport to Italy... My SIL used green peppers in her stews/casseroles etc - I really could never see why!

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tangocharlie in reply to PMRpro

I once had to buy a pack of 3: red, yellow and green as the shop didn't sell them loose. I put the green one on the window sill to ripen. It went a bit orangey red in parts but shrivelled up before it was edible. I've always wondered what sort of person buys a green pepper :)

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to tangocharlie

Somebody with no sense of taste????????????

Most of the peppers here are from further south in Italy - and occasionally we get monsters, enormous and twisty, but boy do they taste good. But they are picked fairly green for transport and often you have to buy them a week or two in advance!

I wonder if adding an apple to the bowl when waiting them to ripen would help - it does for other things.

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tangocharlie

I've vaguely heard of faecal transplants to cure some gut problems. Yes that's right, transferring sh*t. bbc.co.uk/news/health-43815369

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to tangocharlie

But you have to be careful where it comes from - getting a transplant from someone obese can make you overweight too! I'd accept one from my skinny skinny husband...

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piglette in reply to tangocharlie

I have seen quite a lot on this recently. I wonder how they discovered the idea!

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to piglette

What faecal transplants? Or worms...

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to PMRpro

Chinese medicine it seems

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal...

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piglette in reply to PMRpro

Worms now that’s a thought.

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MaryWR

Well they have mapped the areas with endemic helminth infestation against areas with high levels of autoimmune and allergic diseases and guess what - it’s like a jigsaw. Really uncanny correlation. I An Epidemic of Absence - a new way of understanding allergies and autoimmune diseases by Moises Velasquez-Manoff.

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MaryWR

Meant to say - I recommend etc etc

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