Seasonality, birth month, disease

[coda123]

Hello All,

Following the discussion on astrological signs and found recent research on links between birth season and disease. Interesting to note the association between vitamin D levels and month of birth. A news report at: washingtonpost.com/news/won...

In Search of 'Birth Month Genes': Using Existing Data Repositories to Locate Genes Underlying Birth Month-Disease Relationships.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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Birth month affects lifetime disease risk: a phenome-wide method ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/260...

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also, Seasonality and autoimmune diseases: The contribution of the four seasons to the mosaic of autoimmunity abstract at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/286...

best to all

[Alliand]

As a cautiously skeptical follower of astrology, once studied in some depth, it makes quite a lot of sense. As the moon controls the sea, why would the sky at birth date not control how we evolve in life. It is best to have a reader who knows your exact birth date, time of birth and place of birth. Many free over the internet.

I do not pay attention to recommended jewelry to wear mumbo jumbo, or lucky numbers, etc., but one good reading by an ethical astrologer is worth paying for. I highly recommend Liz Greene at AstroDienst.

For $99, she did a beautiful job and was very correct; knew nothing about me, but my birthdate, time of birth, place of birth, but she had me figured out.

[BirmLiz]

Hi Coda123,

Those are fascinating articles. I think our ancestors learned things by observation over many, many years and we're starting to revisit their knowledge with a scientific background. Many of the 'Old wives tales' are being investigated and found to be true or not far off the mark.

I would love to know if there is a link between personality traits and autoimmune diseases. I do courses by Heidi Sawyer for Highly Intuitive Sensitive People and she assures us all that she's never surprised by the number of us that have PMR, Fibromyalgia. ME or the like. The Sensitive person has a different nervous system to others (Dr Elaine Aron estimates that 15-20% of the population are Sensitives after an exhaustive study and brain scan comparisons) and some of our hang ups are worrying about others, abandonment issues and trying to do everything for everyone else whilst neglecting ourselves. I think the bottom line is self-induced stress and of course, some scientists believe it's a contributing factor for PMR.

I definitely think more research should be done into a metaphysical reason for PMR/GCA. Perhaps in a couple of hundred years time they will laugh at our pills and potions etc. as they've found a root cause for illness that we've missed? Fingers crossed!

Take care xx

[Kath567 in reply to BirmLiz]

There is definitely a link between childhood trauma and autoimmune diseases, ACE scores.

[BirmLiz in reply to Kath567]

Hi Kath567,

Wish there was more research done now to help sufferers. Epigenetics fascinates me - the fact that trauma can alter DNA and then this is passed on through generations. I mentioned 'Old wives tales' - what a derogatory term that is! One that springs to mind that has been ignored by modern thought is don't stress out a pregnant woman. Now scientists are proving that if a pregnant woman experiences stress, shock, terror or trauma, the developing foetus is born with a highly sensitive nervous system, expecting their world to be full of trouble, on the defensive and full of stress themselves.

Ah well, perhaps one day the 'old wives tales' will be listened to again?

Take care xx

[BonnyQuine in reply to BirmLiz]

I think it has been proved that trauma, poor diet and other environmental factors during pregnancy do affect the outlook for the developing child, and I'm also fascinated by epigenetics. But no point in knowing unless something can be done to improve that outcome. Roll on the day!

[BirmLiz in reply to BonnyQuine]

Yep BonnyQuine we're still clueless as a species but think we know so much. Just got to hope the day will dawn soon where every mother to be has enough food and medical care with no stress or upset and her child will live happily in that world. Sorry to say I don't think it will be in my lifetime but one can hope.

Take care xx

[BonnyQuine in reply to BirmLiz]

Wouldn't it be wonderful. But I'm not holding my breath.

[Kath567 in reply to BirmLiz]

There is something that can be done for children experiencing trauma such as counselling, but how many can afford it or even know to seek it out? Even as adults, many doctors don’t recognize the physiologic changes that result from childhood events. Adults should be screened early on for their ACE scores and maybe some autoimmune conditions could be prevented.

[BirmLiz in reply to Kath567]

Yes Kath567, I totally agree. Look at the problem of children and young adults who suffer with poor mental health let alone those who have experienced trauma. The whole medical system needs to change because there's no recognition that the mind, emotions and experience of life have a major effect on physical health. I know I just want the moon on a stick

If a load of strangers can come together on this site and care about, support and inspire others with PMR/GCA, think how much better it would be if healthcare systems could do the same for all conditions. "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one" to quote a famous Liverpudlian.

[PMRpro Ambassador]

Not entirely convinced - if you look hard enough you can find a link to anything! My daughters don't fit their pattern very well

However, you would expect babies born in late summer, early autumn, might be born to mothers with a good/better vit D status and so themselves have better vit D levels. A study in Finland found that supplementing newborns with vit D led to a lowered risk of having developed Type 1 diabetes in adolescence.

[Rimmy in reply to PMRpro]

Inclined to agree PMRpro - making 'relationships' of some kinds can be - shall we say -a tenuous activity. I love the idea of sometimes possibly fascinating interconnections but my 'rational' or skeptical side seems to always win out in the end even when I'd rather it didn't HAVE to !

Rimmy