Is there any difference between these 2 products, apart from the fact that one is available and the other sold out?
I would love to place an order and if they are the same it might help those of you who need to order....
Thanking you in advance for your input
Sorry,
I can only open the second link so cannot compare.
prnt.sc/yJRttE79C1vd does this work?
Yes, thank you. Exactly as wedgewood said. Several people have switched to cyanocobalamin because it was easier to obtain.
I had ‘no reaction’ in that sometimes changing brands people can react to the additives. Especially, if you have coeliac, lactose, histamine problems.
Brain fog is ‘character building’. In mid-conversation, people have to bear with me. Sometimes, they ask, who I am texting, Oh myself. I receive a funny look and then just ask them to continue talking. We all have our own weird ways. 😘
I text myself. . . . . . . regularly
I don't because I don't have a mobile phone - but I write notes to self on calendar, in diary, lists on bits of paper or post-its and even on a blackboard painted on the interior of my front door.
Then all I have to do is find them !
The top one is B12 Cynocobalamin, which is no longer used widely in U.K. . It is the cheapest Cobalamin . It had been superceded by the second item namely -B12 DEPOT -Hydroxocobalamin . This is the form of B12 injection used now by the NHS , and is reputed to stat in the system longer . Hydroxocobalamin is more expensive than Cynocobalamin. Cynocobalamin must not be used by patients with the eye disease called Lebers .
thank you wedgewood. Duh!!!! I must have read every letter on that picture 200 times, but missed that. And here I thought my brain fog was getting better.....
Thank you so much, I could have stared at that for another year and never spotted that. So, if we have a problem getting the stuff, should we try for cyano, or maybe methyl or what other options are there for us?
You can get other Hydroxocobalamin brands .
I’ll send you the info .. You could try Cynocobalamin of course . The brands that make Hydroxocobalamin also make Cynocobalamin.
Here’s the info ——
The following reliable German online pharmacies ( all registered with the German Health Authorities) will deliver B12 single use ampoules to the U.K.
versandapo.de Site is in German .Use Google chrome for translation . This is usually the cheapest pharmacy ( in Leipzig) Site is obtainable in English ( Union flag , bottom left on my device ) Courier cost to U.K.- €9.99
apohealth.de( in Munich ) Site obtainable in English . Union flag , bottom left on my device. .Also deliver world wide . Courier cost to U.K. - €20.00
apotheke-marienbrunn.de( in Leipzig) Use Google Chrome for translation. Also deliver to Australia and New Zealand.
When filling out the address form , you will see that the country is already filled with Germany / Deutschland. You must first change that to your country by using the drop-down list , to — Grossbrittanien , UK. United Kingdom, Vereinigtes Königreich , however it is expressed. Do this so that your post-code and the rest of your address is accepted . Otherwise , you will be unable to order , and you will be tearing your hair out !
amazon.de also sell Pascoe and Hevert . But depending on the supplying pharmacy may or may not supply the U.K. You can’t use the pharmaceutical reference numbers to order .
The following brands are obtainable .
PANPHARMA ( formerly Rotexmedica )
1mg x 1ml ampoules - b12 depot (hydroxocobalomin) Pharmaceutical refefence number 16199653. This is the most popular ampoule used by members It us good value , but quite often out of stock . You can then opt to be emailed to be told when it is back in stock.
PASCOE B12 depot
1.5mg x 1ml ampoules Packet of 10-
reference number - 075686672
1.5mg x 1ml ampoules. 10 x 10 packets — 100 ampoules refefence number 07568695
The Pascoe are much cheaper per packet if you buy the offer of 10 packets . If you inject weekly or more 10 packets would cover you. But if you inject less frequently, the ampoules may become out of date .
HEVERT B12 depot 1mg x 2ml ampoules 1 packet of 10 reference number 06078368
HEVERT B12 depot 1mg x 2ml ampoules 10 packets (100 ampoules) Reference number. 06078380
Use the pharmaceutical reference numbers to order from the pharmacies . ( but not from amazon.de )
PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE FOLLOWING
Now the UK has left the EU, there is a limit to the value of goods that we are allowed to import from the EU , before tax is due. Tax is applicable if the value exceeds £135 ( roughly €158.00 ) Value does include delivery cost ! But please look everything up , because things might change . On top of that, Royal Mail charge £8.00 for processing it. .I’m not sure how much the tax is - so look it up please. A member was quite shocked at what she had to pay when she exceeded the limit . I believe that even the cost of delivery is included in the total . It was when I ordered something from the USA .
Best wishes.
Thank you wedgewood, this is where I bought in the past and am searching now, but a lot are out of stock so I want to keep my options open. maybe get stuff with a very long shelf life, like methyl ( comes in powder form, and has a shelf life of over 2 years if you do not mix it with saline. ) once mixed I believe it's 30 days, so it would be good to keep in case other stuff becomes difficult to get hold of. I know there is no way I want to be without it for even one day
Yes , it’s worth investing in some powdered Methyl. One never knows what’s going to happen - the world is in such a mess at the moment .
Wedgewood,
I tried to order from Versandapo on Friday and was unable to do so as they require an address in Germany at the first step of the checkout process. I couldn’t find any way round this. There was no option to select UK and continue. There was no obvious option for an English version of the site either.
I also tried Arzneiprivat but they do not ship to the UK
I ended up ordering from Apohealth which was very easy and in English all the way through the process. No issues with being UK.
You need to register with versandapo . and make sure you put in U.K. as your country on the drop down list BEFORE you put in the rest of your address They DO ship to U.K.
Got it! Need to register an account before checkout process and then sign in. Thanks.
Here’s a bit of info
The following reliable German online pharmacies ( all registered with the German Health Authorities) will deliver B12 single use ampoules to the U.K.
versandapo.de ( in Munich) Site is in German .Use Google chrome for translation . This is usually the cheapest pharmacy ( in Leipzig) Site is obtainable in English ( Union flag , bottom left on my device ) Courier cost €9.99
apohealth.de( in Leipzig) Site obtainable in English . Union flag , bottom left on my device. .Also deliver world wide . Courier cost- €20.00 for 10 packets . Less for fewer .
apotheke-marienbrunn.de( in Leipzig) Yse Google Chrome for translation. Also deliver to Australia and New Zealand.
When filling out the address form , you will see that the country is already filled with Germany / Deutschland. You must first change that to your country by using the drop-down list , to — Grossbrittanien , UK. United Kingdom, Vereinigtes Königreich , however it is expressed. Do this so that your post-code and the rest of your address is accepted . Otherwise , you will be unable to order , and you will be tearing your hair out !
amazon.de also sell Pascoe and Hevert . But depending on the supplying pharmacy may or may not supply the U.K. You can’t use the pharmaceutical reference numbers to order .
The following brands are obtainable .
PANPHARMA ( formerly Rotexmedica )
1mg x 1ml ampoules - b12 depot (hydroxocobalomin) Pharmaceutical refefence number 16199653. This is the most popular ampoule used by members It us good value , but quite often out of stock . You can then opt to be emailed to be told when it is back in stock.
PASCOE B12 depot
1.5mg x 1ml ampoules Packet of 10-
reference number - 075686672
1.5mg x 1ml ampoules. 10 x 10 packets — 100 ampoules refefence number 07568695
The Pascoe are much cheaper per packet if you buy the offer of 10 packets . If you inject weekly or more 10 packets would cover you. But if you inject less frequently, the ampoules may become out of date .
HEVERT B12 depot 1mg x 2ml ampoules 1 packet of 10 reference number 06078368
HEVERT B12 depot 1mg x 2ml ampoules 10 packets (100 ampoules) Reference number. 06078380
Use the pharmaceutical reference numbers to order from the pharmacies . ( but not from amazon.de )
PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE FOLLOWING
Now the UK has left the EU, there is a limit to the value of goods that we are allowed to import from the EU , before tax is due. Tax is applicable if the value exceeds £135 ( roughly €158.00 ) Value does include delivery cost ! But please look everything up , because things might change . On top of that, Royal Mail charge £8.00 for processing it. .I’m not sure how much the tax is - so look it up please. A member was quite shocked at what she had to pay when she exceeded the limit . I believe that even the cost of delivery is included in the total . It was when I ordered something from the USA .
Best wishes.
too true. And can I use this as the saline? prnt.sc/sSn0EULxywSv
All over where ever I look, even in Germany it's the same kind of stuff
That type of saline is on NO ACCOUNT to be used for injections . Saline for injections can only be obtained in U.K. with a doctor’s prescription .
You can get it from German online pharmacies in 20x 10 ml ampoules It’s called
NaCl 0.9% Use the reference number 02737756
also in 20 x 5 ml ampoules ref no
03040980
Made by Braun
This is the only type of saline for injections DO NOT USE ANY OTHER TYPE — IMPORTANT!!! I assume you want it to rehydrate some powdered Methylcobalamin!
thank you wedgewood, that is such a relief to now know the name and ref numbers. Thank you so very much
Hi, yes, one is Cyano and the better one is Hydroxo. I’ve used both but prefer the hydroxo. The Cyano has traces of cyanide which they say is too little to cause concern but you never know. Best to use Hydroxo if you can get it. Its effects last longer too.
Best wishes
thank you all ever so much, I now have ordered cyano - (because it is available), and also methyl and thanks to wedgewood the correct saline. I feel better now, knowing I can try them out and in future will not be in a blind panic when I cannot get what I need. Pheeeeeew 😍
thank you all and everyone of you, you may not know it, but over the last 3 month you have given me my life back. I still have a long way to go, but am already so much better and also totallyHopeful (should I change my name now?) and looking toward a better future. Thank you, so grateful
What is supplies run out?
is this the correct viles ?
Is Versandapo not delivery to Uk now?
The B12 deficiency support group is trying to increase the numbers of signatures for a petition to raise the issue of diagnosis& treatment
B12 deficiency - self medicating
