Self injecting B12

[Polo22]

Hi wanted to ask which sites/companies are best to purchase B12 for self administration. Is it supplied in preloaded syringes or pens like insulin. Which brands, suppliers have given best results?

[wedgewood]

No it’s not supplies in preloaded syringes or pens . We buy single use ampules of B12 depot ( Hydroxocobalamin) from reputable German health ministry controlled online pharmacies . I will send you a help sheet with all the information that you need .

[Polo22 in reply to wedgewood]

Thanks appreciated. What is NTD in relation. Brain is so not working

[helvella in reply to Polo22]

Neural Tube Defect - I think.

[Polo22 in reply to helvella]

Oh I should have known that 🤦‍♀️

[CanaryHound in reply to wedgewood]

Wedgewood, could I have the info sheet too, please?Much appreciated!

[Polo22 in reply to wedgewood]

Can't find help sheet, must need more help than I thought 😜

[Rowcocks in reply to wedgewood]

Hey,Could you please send me where you buy from too?

We are considering more injections to boost energy levels. My partner feels wiped out at the moment.

J

[wedgewood in reply to Rowcocks]

HELP FOR PERNICIOUS ANAEMIA/B12 DEFICIENT PATIENTS AND OTHERS WISHING TO SELF-INJECT B12

ALWAYS MAINTAIN STRICT HYGIENE WHEN SELF-INJECTING .

WHERE TO OBTAIN SINGLE-USE B12 DEPOT ( Hydroxocobalamin) AMPOULES

As B12 ampoules are strictly prescription only items in the U.K. we have to obtain our ampoules from reliable German online pharmacies, which are strictly controlled by the German Health authorities . These ampoules are an over-the-counter ( OTC) item in Germany ( thank goodness for their wisdom!) But only obtainable from pharmacies .

Every pharmaceutical item has its own reference number on the pharmacy site , so it’s easy to use them to get straight to the item you need ,without searching .

Depending on what you want to order, here are the reference numbers to use in your search .

PANPHARMA ( previously known as Rotexmedica )

A packet of 10 ampoules of B12 Depot ( Hydroxocobalamin)

1mg x 1ml Ref no. 16199653.

Panpharma do not sell the 100 ampoule packs any longer.

HEVERT -Packet of 10 ampoules 1mg x 2ml ref no 06078368

HEVERT Packet of 100 single-use ampoules 10 x 10 packets ref no. 06078380

PASCOE -Pack of 10 ampoules 1.5 mg x 1ml ref no 07568672

PASCOE Pack of 100 ampoules ((10 x 10 packs) Ref no 07568695

Here are German online pharmacies that will ship to the U.K. by courier usually DHL FOR €9.89 no matter how many you buy .

versandapo.de

It’s really best to register . You will save time with subsequent ordering ,and they have a points system if you register . 200 points when you first order , and one point for every Euro that you spend . when you have 250 points , that represents €2.50 which you can use against your next purchase .

You register and subsequently sign in by clicking on the head and shoulders silhouette,top right.

When filling out the address it is important to FIRST OF ALL SELECT YOUR COUNTRY FROM THE DROP-DOWN LIST. The U.K. is shown in German as VEREINIGTES KÖNIGREICH . So click on that and then the computer will accept your postal code and the rest of your address . If you don’t do this , your address will not be accepted .

You need to pay with PayPal ( easily obtained online ) or bank transfer. Free of charge with online banking . £25.00 at your bank !

juvalis.de is another German online pharmacy that will ship to U.K.

These sites are in German so you might need Google Chrome or a translation app.

amazon.de ( German Amazon) is available in English

They do not supply Panpharma ampoules.

They do supply HEVERT and PASCOE .

When you get the ampoules, they need to be kept dark and under 25 C .

NEEDLES, SYRINGES , SWABS AND YELLOW SHAROS DISPOSAL BINS .Obtainable from ———————-

Medisave.co.uk

exchangesupplies.org

For I.M. injections. ( Intra Muscular ) use a long course needle to withdraw the B12 from the ampoule into the syringe . I use 21G x 1 1/2 inches.

Use a 25G x 1inch needle .

A 2ml syringe is needed to get every last drop of precious B12 out of a 1ml ampoule .

For a sucutaneous injection ( sub-cut) use a fine short needle - 30G x 1/2 inch

SO FIRST WASH YOUR HANDS, AND PLACE YOUR INJECTION ITEMS ON A FRESH PIECE OF KITCHEN TOWEL

Open the ampoule at its weakest point shown as a spot on the neck . Wrap a swab round the ampoule to avoid nasty cuts

Failing that but an ampoule opener (Amazon smile and choose Pernicious Society as your charity ) There are plastic ones and sturdy metal ones .

If you are Needle -phobic , there is help in the shape of a device known as an “Auto-Injector “ available from a Danish Company

unionmedico.com

I don’t use one , but you could enquire about it from members . I know that some do use this device .

There are others , but I don’t have any information. But don’t buy needles or syringes if you are thinking about it .The device takes specific sizes for different devices .

If you are sensitive , a numbing cream is obtainable from Amazon .

I use I.M.method for injecting. I use my thighs ( the outer middle third ) I swap thighs each time I inject.

If you wish to inject sub-cut , please look it up on the Internet ( I believe it’s the tummy fat and the front of the thigh)

If you are injecting with B12 for the first time , please have someone with you, in case of anaphylactic shock ( like some people have after a bee-sting ) It is very rare , but I feel obliged to tell you .

Do not worry about overdosing on B12 . You cannot . It’s a proven fact .

I’ve been self-injecting for 6 years , but instillmremember shaking like a leaf 🍃! Now it’s just routine.

Remeber to include a good quantity of Vitamin B9 in your diet ( green leafy veg) It’s called folate in food and folic acid in a tablet. You could take a modest 400 mcg tablet , ( these are recommended in pregnancy . You cannot overdose on folate in food , but you can overdose on folic acid in tablets .

TO INJECT INTRAMUSCULARLY

Open the ampoule , and flick it to get all the B12 into the bottom .

Use a 2ml syringe . Fix the withdrawing needle on the end of the syringe . Pull out the plunger on the syringe and SLOWLY inject air into the ampoule . Now pull out the plunger and all the precious B12 will be sucked up into the syringe . Now take off the withdrawing needle and replace it with the injection needle .. Now press out the air in the syringe , until a tiny bead of red B12 appears on the needle tip.

YOU ARE NOW READY TO INJECT INTO THE VASTUS LATERALIS MUSCLE. ( it’s nearest the outside in the middle outside third of your thigh - look up info inline .There are also diagrams of the thigh and the muscle ) inject at 90 degrees .

For sub cut refer to internet

WELL DONE -YOU’VE MADE IT !

MY BEST WISHES TO YOU !

[Lisab1234]

Hi Wedgwood could I also have the info sheet? I have just ordered ampules from Germany but they have come from Thailand and I am not confident in using them. And thank you for all your other posts really informative

Many thanks

[Hamayeshguy in reply to Lisab1234]

What type is that? Hydroxocobalamin or cyanocobalamin? Which company you have placed order? Looks like some German online pharmacies are changing their policy