Vitamin D3 and autoimmune diseases

[AngelaJG]

Hi all,

I read this earlier today, thought it was interesting and others might want a read,

goop.com/can-vitamin-d3-hea...

xx

[AngelaJG]

Totally agree Eaoz, just thought it was interesting, that was all, I did not intend for everyone (including myself), to start rushing out buying large supplies of vitamin D,

Sorry if you thought that was what i was trying to imply, it wasn't

[Marz in reply to AngelaJG]

grassrootshealth.net/media/...

Please note the measurements are from the US - take your result and divide by 2.5 to achieve the figure in the above link.

There is a school of thought somewhere out there that discussed VitD and whether you are TH1 dominant or TH2 - when it comes to auto-immunity that is .....

I have Crohns and Hashimotos - both auto-immune and take a substantial dose of D3. I also live in Crete - but after 4 years of living in the sun I still tested low. The important thing is to combine the dose with VitK2 MK7 to direct improved calcium levels away from the arteries and into the bones and teeth. In fact I have often read to have Calcium tested prior to starting VitD supps. Magnesium is another co-factor.

There was research done here in Crete about those suffering with VDR issues - possibly connected to auto-immunity ..... on PubMed so easily found.

Low VitD in expectant Mums has also been researched - resulting in babes with health issues later on ... Again in the above link. The Researchers at Grassroots Health come with an excellent pedigree when it comes to research - in my non-medical opinion.

Sadly the Medical profession cannot be relied on when it comes to VitD - mostly people are told to have it done privately - and if it is tested are happy to say normal - even when just in range. There was a letter sent out by the CMO to ALL healthcare professionals in the UK to indicate those in need of D testing - this has been mostly ignored. Also the prescribed levels of VitD are inadequate when levels are exceedingly low.

gov.uk/government/uploads/s...

vitamindcouncil.org

grassrootshealth.net

Book - The Vitamin D Solution - by Dr Michael Holick ....

As with all supplements and meds it is best to start - low and slow - to ensure there are no side-effects.

thefatemperor.com/blog/2014...

You will need *time* to watch the above video

[miglet54 in reply to AngelaJG]

No good deed goes unpunished, poor you.

[Marz]

Have just posted above - some of it maybe of interest to you ....

[Marz]

Also he works with the research papers mentioned on Grassroots Health .... his book sits on my shelf having been read

I think we have to take good care of ourselves and not rely on the GP's - as is so obvious from reading so many posts - both here and on Thyroid UK. Surely these Forums would not exist otherwise I know I have learnt a great deal from others who know so much more than me ....

[Hidden]

There are some small studies now which have found D reduced thyroid antibodies, a potentially very exciting development.

And in fact in the UK good studies have found widespread D deficiency in the population. D is a pretty safe prehormone, though of course you shouldn't go crazy in it. GPs advice has been poor on this for years, and the RDA was set way too low due to poor science. In the winter in the UK no one can get D from the sun, so either we should be eating very large quantities of fish - twice a day - or supplementing.

[Marz in reply to Hidden]

Interesting about the Thyroid anti-bodies. Must seek the research. It seems those who suffer with thyroid conditions suffer low levels of VitD - B12 - Ferritin - Folate - as we read on a daily basis on TUK Absorption issues possibly due to the lowered metabolism.

Also I have read that VitD from the sun needs good levels of cholesterol - so with millions taking statins - is it any wonder people have low levels .....

[Hidden in reply to Marz]

Yes, we have lowered stomach acid from the hypoT, and then perhaps one in 20 hypoTs are celiac, and then there,s the high incidence of autoimmune gastritis in hypoT... no wonder D is low.

[fbirder]

Just to clarify: Eoaz's post is a direct quote from the article. Obviously the author is worried about being sued by people believing what he's written.

Fills me with confidence.

[Hidden in reply to fbirder]

It's what is also all over the thyroid forum. Just a sign of the sue-happy times.

But true, we all have to be on hocus pocus alert... unfortunately, we have to be on that alert when talking to doctors too. It is not the case that we can distrust everything on the internet, and trust all doctors. Sadly.

There is a lot of research on D now, most of it helpfully collected on the vit D Council site. So much, it is hard to wade through.

[fbirder in reply to Hidden]

Given the choice between believing a GP and somebody promoting a clickbait website, dubious supplements and a vanity-published book, I know which I would trust.

What I can't understand is how people believe that 'big pharma' are all part of a huge conspiracy to get people to take proven drugs that costs pennies, yet they will happily believe somebody on the Interwebs trying to sell them untested pills for 10 times the price is just trying to help the public.

[Marz in reply to fbirder]

Could you please inform the members which sites are click bait so we can avoid them .... also the vanity published book.

Thank you for your help ....

[Allyson1 in reply to Marz]

Goop in general is not a good source. It's run by Gwyneth Paltrow and is full of expensive nonsense. Even if some good information does get through, it's not worth the risk.

[Marz in reply to Allyson1]

Not on my radar .... 😊

[Polaris in reply to fbirder]

Maybe this is why:

"Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.

"The vast majority of drugs - more than 90 per cent - only work in 30 or 50 per cent of the people," Dr Roses said."

...................

"Official sources show that deaths from pharmaceutical drugs have escalated over the last 10 years.

According to the US government’s Centre for Disease Control (CDC), pharmaceutical drugs killed nearly 38,000 Americans in 2009.

The FDA’s own figures suggest a worsening picture...

Their figures for 2011 reported 474,5931 ‘serious patient outcomes’ from FDA-approved drugs.

This included 82,724 deaths — a figure that has doubled in just 4 years. (Source: US Department of Health and Human Services, March 31, 2010)"

[srmika]

Great article! Thank you so much for sharing!