Bought 3 different kinds of mucuna pruriens powder

The first powder I bought was Zandopa, manufactured by the company Zandu Emani Limited

in Kolkata, India. It says it contains standardized mucuna pruriens seed powder in a flavored base. It is an off white color with black specs. I have never taken it because there is a question what the flavored base is and also it does not contain all the ingredients of the MP powder.

The next powder I purchased is the Kapikachhu powder from Indigo Herbs of Glastonbury in the UK. It says it contains Organic Kapikachhu power and nothing else. It is exactly the same color as the Zandopa ( off white with black specs), however not sweet. That is curious, does that mean it does not contain all the ingrdients?

The third powder I purchased is Mucuna pruriens seed powder ( product of India) but manufactured in the US ( West Palm beach,Florida...Z Natural Foods.) This powder looks nothing like the other two. It is a yellow cinnamon color and has a bitter chocolate taste....not medicinal like the Kapikachhu powder. This is the one I have been taking and seems to work well.

The only difference I noticed between the Kapikachhu powder versus the MP powder at Z Natural foods is that it made me slightly sleepy.

All 3 claimed to be organic and safe......does anyone else have experience with the above or different powder forms of Mucuna pruriens?

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  • Hello,

    Yes i bought 2 different types of Mancuna P last year for my Dad to try as i was not impressed with the Sinemet he has to take & being a natural form of Ldopa why not,one was Zandopa from India in a round tub & the other was from a guy in Ireland who imported it & was a lot more concentrated i even think it was pure MP as the dosage was a lot less than the Zandopa & came in a silver foil bag like the army food you warm up in hot water! It was more expensive probably double than Zandopa £20-£25.Anyway after all that my Dad did not want to try it as he was worried it would have side affects with his other meds?? So he will never know if it would help or not & rather trust the Doctors ??????? How much Zandopa do you take a day & the other one from Glastonbury as i might try him again as he is getting worse,hes 78 by the way & diagnosed about 3 years ago.

    THX Will & take care.

  • Hi 3willy,

    I started with 1/8 teaspoon and now I take 3/8 teaspoon of the MP powder 3x a day with sinemet (100/25) 3x a day. I have already eliminated 10 1/2 mg requip and 1 mg azilect. I would like to slowly increase my MP powder and eliminate my sinemet altogether...I will do it slowly. I am 61 and was dx in 2009.

    Good Luck,

    BMakla

  • What are your symptoms? Have you seen improvement? Side effects? What is the advantage of using this vs Sinemet?

  • I am tremor dominent and before taking sinemet, I couldn't walk across walmart w/o leaning on a basket....couldn't pick up my feet.,,,and alot of pain.

    With LDN I am a changed person....but I still need sinemet. The mucuna will replace the sinemet w/o the side effects of dyskenisia ...that happens with sinemet. I haven't noticed any side effects of MP....but you must experiment with the dosing and make sure your source is safe and free of toxins......

  • Forgot to mention I take the MP from Z Natural foods......which acts just like the one from Glastonbury. You do not want to give MP to your Dad if he is taking a MAOI like azilect......it could cause high blood pressure....so check his meds.....

    Take care,

    BMakla

  • I keep hearing a lot about the MP to replace the drugs used.

    so much conflicting advice and types available.

    Does anyone know of a site which gives scientific views/trst results of it and how it works?

  • Let me know if you receive a response. Thanks.

  • I will indeed Thankyou

  • Hello Oldtyke,

    Put into your search engine:

    Mucuna pruriens for Parkinson's disease - IOCOB

    You will find an excellent article on MP.

    Regards

    Norton

  • Yeah I just bought some from India. It's the earthy powder colour, no white bits. It tastes like bitter coffee or what I imagine bovril might taste like, but I may have taken too much. The reason I say that is because it made me tired and gave me stomach cramps (short term). However, I also took 5htp at the same time and maybe this made me tired. So 1) I took less MP to see if it makes a difference and I didn't add 5HTP today, instead I'll take it at night time.

    I also take: Green Tea/L-Tyrosine 500mg - 1g/Vit C 1gram/B Vitamin complex/Melatonin at night (3 mg) and Propanolol 80mg slow release for my physiological tremors (which are mild).

  • So... I've tried three different types of Macuna Puriens and didn't notice any difference. I've even slightly over dosed (just to test it) and nothing. What does this mean!? Argh.

  • Have you tried Zandopa? I'm not promoting it, but it's the one I use, and I've found it to be effective.

  • What dose do you take of Zandopa? I have it.

  • 2/3 heaped teaspoons in half a glass of water first thing in the morning.

  • Where do you buy your zandopa & how much is it? If you're using 2/3 heaped teaspoons just once a day, it must cost a lot? Also, surely that one dose wears off? What about half that dose twice a day?

  • I get it from eBay. There is a supplier that I found who sells it at £23.99 for four tubs which I think is remarkably cheap. Occasionally I take a smaller dose in the evening as well. I don't recommend my dose to anyone else, it's the amount that works for me after experimenting. I used to take less, now I find I need a little more. You have to find what works for you- if it works for you.

  • Well, you raise a very valid point.. I've taken my dose and I've taken your dose and I don't notice too much of a difference - that said (and it could be psychological) but I feel more in control.

    Do most people feel a very noticeable physical difference within an hour of taking it?

    Thank you!! P.

  • My husband, who was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease more than 12 years ago, has found a dosage of Mucuna Pruriens powder that works for him very successfully, though he is taking much more than we have seen mentioned elsewhere. He has been using it for about a year and a half with no loss of effectiveness.

    When his prescribed PD medication lost effectiveness, becoming almost useless, he experimented taking 1/2 a teaspoon of pure Mucuna powder (simply ground up velvet bean) stirred into a little purified water, but it didn't have much effect until he gradually increased the dosage to a level Tablespoon. At that dosage it switched him into an "on" state within 10-15 minutes, reliably, almost every time*. Mucuna usually keeps him steadily "on" for at least 3 hours (longer when he exercises), without side effects other than the dyskinesia he has had for many years. Mucuna also made him feel better - healthier and stronger - which is not surprising since the Mucuna bean is naturally nutritious. It is also reputed to have neuro-protective qualities.

    He gradually swapped most of his PD medication - Stalevo (L-dopa, Carbidopa & Entacapone) - for numerous one Tablespoon doses of Mucuna. He now takes from 6 to 8 one Tablespoon doses of Mucuna a day, and just 2 Stalevo a day (morning and mid-afternoon) because he seems to need the Carbidopa to help the L-dopa in Mucuna cross the blood brain barrier.

    Despite vague warnings we've seen online about taking too much Mucuna, he has had no problem taking multiple large doses. We assume his body recognises Mucuna as the natural food source it is, and absorbs it as quickly and easily as it absorbs food. A synthetic drug like Stalevo would never be encountered in nature, so it is no wonder his body struggles to absorb it, and also suffers its uncomfortable side effects. (No one ever got healthy on pharmaceutical drugs.)

    *There is another piece to the puzzle. On the rare occasion Mucuna does not kick in quickly and reliably, we have discovered it can be dependent on what, when and how much my husband eats. A few years ago, an excellent PD specialist told us that animal protein can interfere with the absorption of L-dopa, so my husband became mainly vegan and noticed his PD drug (Stalevo) worked better for a while. Mucuna also works better for him when he follows a vegan diet, and when he takes it on an empty stomach. Also, if he follows a dose of Mucuna with a very large meal, the Mucuna may stop working while he's digesting the meal, but an extra dose of Mucuna soon gets him back "on".

    Now that he understands fully how to control his diet, my husband is a much happier person knowing he can rely on this natural substance to work almost 100% of the time. He can get through his day without the discomfort and inconvenience of long "off" periods. He is able to work hard in our garden, has set up a home gym where he works out for up to an hour, and he plays pool in the evening at our local social club, where he is well respected for his cheerful ‘can do’ attitude.

    We now have so much faith in the effectiveness and safety of Mucuna that we have no fear of him taking these larger-than-recommended doses. He feels and looks better than when he relied only on pharmaceuticals. In fact, we think of Mucuna as a health food as well as a treatment for someone with PD.

  • Thanks for your really helpful reply - very informative, and despite not being the original poster, you have put my mind at ease about taking this as a beneficial food supplement. Can I ask where you bought your Mucuna Pruriens powder from? I've been searching online, and have found 2 stores, Rawliving.eu, and indigo-herbs.co.uk - though not sure which has the better source.

    Thanks,

    Sam

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