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Hi there finally my desicion arrived on friday. Surprise surpise not awarded pip .

I was awarded the middle range .

There were a few things in the way they arrived at my decision that beggar belief.

Firstly i distinctly remember telling the assesor that i never ever cook a proper hot meal , due to sporadic muscle distortion weakness and that i can easily drop things ,so hot pots and pans are a no go. So my partner cooks everything i do eat.

In this section you score 0 to 8 points.

I scored 2.

It was also noted that i eat 2 meals per day which i did not say . I remember saying

I eat 3 meals approx a week. The rest of the time its snacking if i eat at all.

I had to stand up during my assessment due to pain in my legs back shoulders.

I used the chair back to stand and rested on it for a few minutes.

My review. I was witnessed standing un aided and showed normal muscle function.lol i got up because i was in bloody agony. I asked if it was ok to stand up i explained i was in severe pain. Not a mention of this.

I could destroy every aspect of what was said and what was reported.

I explained my condition crps ,coversion disorder plus other things im under treatment for. But its like talking to a wall.

Crps has not long been named as the worlds worst chronic pain syndrom in the US. Yet you get assessed by someone you has never heard of it. Never mind understanding the impact on ones life.

So im about to begin the appeals process as im not at all happy with this decision.

I will keep you all posted.

Cheers all tganks for the replies.

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Bananas5

When you say 'middle range' did you get any points for either component? Care or mobility?

As a blind person I can not do anything in the kutchen for obvious safety reasons. However instead of getting 8 points I was only awarded 4.

I spoke with the DM who explained you can only get the highest points if you have cognitive problems. So no physical disability can ever score higher.

Unfair? Totally

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Davek723 in reply to Bananas5

Hi .i was awarded total of 8 points for the care bit fir everything.

Amd 4 for mobility bit. Despite telling her i can have days every week when im unable to get out of bed if i can manage to get to bed in the first place.

Your decision is as baffling as mine tbh rediculous doesnt coved it.

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Bananas5 in reply to Davek723

So you will get standard for care....an aren't we grateful.

I did however get enhanced care as they added all my points up with total being 18.

Have you had any help? CAB or Welfare Rights? Although they are few and far between these days. Or online with B&W?

Sadly DWP have a policy of...lets not give anyone anything and let them appeal if they have enough energy.

Go for it though...worth it

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I'm sorry to here about your struggle with pip I know your pain well. I too suffer from crps and gave up just wanted to scream at them. Hope it goes well with the appeal.

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Hi there. Yes crps is so misunderstood

Most of my mate dont see much wrong with me as i only see them when i feel reasonable. Not many people see me rolling around the floor crying in agony my muscles twisted and pulled head aches like nothing else etc etc but i do try so hard to keep going. Just things like pip set you back as alot of stress doesnt help. Cheers for the reply.

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allyh1968

make sure you request your report and go through each response = I did and four pages later with 34 discrepancies I was fuming. The appeals process is a long one at the moment so keep a record of all your notes as I have been awaiting the appeal process since January! Had my appeal yesterday but not hopeful as they didn't go through the list of discrepancies only asked the questions again that I picked the discrepancies up on but fingers crossed the panel of 3 may have come to a different decision. I have standard rate on both but 2 points away from enhanced on both

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Krazykat26

In 2016 I had ESA benefit stopped because I hadn't scored enough points..none in actual fact!! My already fragile health deteriorated and I became suicidal. My hubby contacted citizens advice bureau and even the woman there said that she couldn't represent me..she did however help us to get income support. So the appeal procedure went ahead..I was housebound n totally depressed so I just let them get on with it..I got appeal papers of my assessment and I'm not sure if me and the assessor were even in the same room..her 'report' was totally different to what I had actually said. So the tribunal date came round in December 2017 n I still ignored the whole thing because I didn't want to go back on ESA..I should add here that I had a pip assessment during that time n was awarded enhanced rate for daily living element. The appeal was heard in a magistrates court..but I haven't done anything wrong!!! On the appeal date they tried to phone me n I ignored the call as I had ignored any letters etc that they had sent. And guess what?? The tribunal found in my favour and advised that I be reassessed within 3 months!!! Now that is a complete waste of taxpayers money in my opinion..it took 14 months from stopping my benefit to the appeal..think of all the paper pushers who are paid to do this to us. As far as I'm concerned those b**t**ds tried to kill me!! They call themselves 'health professionals' what a joke!! I hope that you find the strength to go through the whole mindless process and try not to beat yourself up about it..it is a farce!!!

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Davek723

Cheers for tge reply sorry about all the crap you and many others need to go through to get what you are entitled to.

I have had the same progressive condition for nearly 20 yrs now. I lived in scotland and was awarded everything from the panel of 3 . In 2010 my marriage broke down and at the same time i got my annual dla form. Now until this point i always just wrote a letter saying my condition is the same it is in curable i didnt fill the form just signed it.

Everything was fine. I was now living on my own and really struggling so filled the form out stating my condition was the same but i needed more help as i was on my own. Guess what they stopped all my income. I appealed and spoke to someone whilst laid on my bathroom floor after my hip dislocated

They had called to tell me i was no longer disabled lol. And that because i was managing on my own i wasnt entitled. I asked how he new i was managing on my own as i had never seen him. He had no idea if i had bread milk food etc no idea if i could get up to bed or shower etc . Just a joke. So i had my fill of dwp. And gave up. Its almost 8yrs since and i am getting worse so tried again

Not sure why tbh. But im going to see this thtough on principle.

I agree the government are killing people and dont care.

Cheers again for the response

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Charliek3

Bastards they are complete Bastards sent to cull the disabled population. The amount of deaths caused by the Tory party in the UK & N.Ireland is scandalous. When will the people catch on to these elites paying ATOS to, in effect, murder the sick & disabled here.

Keep at them mate & Appeal everything they try & take from you & always remember they are complete evil Bastards!"! Good Luck...

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