Re: Soya Milk & Soy foods : plant estrogens (phyto-estrogens)

[Doughnut21]

Re: Soya Milk & Soy foods : Contains plant estrogens (phyto-estrogens).... Hello there, i've finished 6 cycles of Chemo and interval debulking surgery and my CA125 has dropped from 3000 at first diagnosis to 7, which is fantastic!!! I'm now continueing on Avastin alone for 18 cycles. I was wondering if any of you vegetarians would know if it's safe to drink Soya Milk (or eat Soya mince), as I've been told that the Ovarian Cancer (Peritoneal Cancer) is hormone sensitive and was advised not to take HRT after I had a full hysterectomy (for treatment of O.C.). I've also been told by a naturopath that i'm dairy intolerant and not to have too much dairy, so I've switched to Soya Milk / Soya yogurt instead. But now, i'm a bit worried as I've been told by my Oncologist that there's no data to show the long-term effects of Soya (plant estrogens) on people who've had Ovarian Cancer and whether it could cause a recurrence? My friend who had Breast Cancer 15 years ago was told to be careful to not have too much soya, in case it increased the risk of a recurrence. I wondered if anyone had any information about this? I guess the sensible thing to do is limit the amount of Soya products and alternative other non-dairy milks like almond milk or Quorn mince etc. Thanks in advance for any information! Wishing you all a Happy & Healthy New Year! Debbie x

[win_56]

First of all congratulations on your low CA125 that's brilliant news!!. Ive actually switched to a non dairy diet and vegetarian. I drink soy milk and eat Quorn. I went to an ovacome conference some years back and the dietician did a talk and said it was ok to eat Quorn and drink soy milk but a definite NO to soy supplements. I cannot remember the reason why at the tine. I think the link below maybe useful for you. It states that soy products does not increasevtge rusk if breast cancer by scientusts. All the best.

[Doughnut21 in reply to win_56]

Thanks win_56 for sending me the link about vegetarian diet, and Soy milk / Quorn products. It's very interesting to read. So I guess that as there's scientific evidence to show no increased risk of breast cancer from Soya products, so hopefully none for Ovarian Cancer either, as there's a very low level of Isoflavones in soya products. Good advice about NOT taking any Soy supplements...as that would incur a higher intake of Isoflavones. Thanks for sending me the the link .... it was very helpful! I hope you are doing well now. Take care, Debbie 😀

[win_56 in reply to Doughnut21]

Hi Debbie I'm not too bad thanks gone back on the Rubraca had time out due to low platelets. Yes that would make sense why the dietician at the ovacome forum said Quorn and soy milk ok but a definite no to soy supplements. I'll continue to eat and drink soy. All the best to you going forward. X

[win_56]

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[Petrolhead]

Hi DebbieNo useful info for you but wanted to say CA125 result is brilliant. Long may it continue.

Fay

[Doughnut21 in reply to Petrolhead]

Thanks Fay! I hope you are doing well too. 😀

[candyapplegrey]

Oh dear! I am mainly veggie and usually have soya milk in porridge, tea, etc. Also use quorn a lot in meals. I sort of remember someone telling me its oestrogen could cause cancer. I better get googling. Congrats on CA125! Oh just found this: everydayhealth.com/ovarian-... suggesting soy is good. Confused now ... xx

[Doughnut21 in reply to candyapplegrey]

Hi Candyapplegrey....the lady at the top of my replies has sent me this very useful link re: Soya & Quorn products, which has put my mind at ease....it may be of interest to you too, here's the link: metro-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.... ft mo no

[candyapplegrey in reply to Doughnut21]

Thanks! Will check it out. x

[win_56 in reply to candyapplegrey]

Please don't worry. The dietician at the ovacome forum in Birmingham a few years back said soy milk and Quorn was fine but NO to soy supplements. I drink soy milk and soy protein Quorn all the tine as I am vegetarian and don't touch dairy.

[Ruebacelle]

Hi. I drink soy milk as cow milk no good for arthritis. I think it depends on how sensitive your cells are to estrogen.

[Nadie2018]

Hi Debbie. Congratulations on excellent results. From everything I researched, there is more info to say soy is helpful in cancer and some saying the opposite. When I ask my GYN Oncs, they said it’s ok to eat

[Nadie2018]

(Continued). Soybeans, tofu and drink Soy milk. I’ve never heard of Quorn...

Continue doing well and staying healthy. Best, Nadie

[Doughnut21 in reply to Nadie2018]

Thanks Marie. I hope you continue doing well too. X🙂

[Summergold2]

runnersworld.com/uk/nutriti... A little article on Quorn

[Doughnut21 in reply to Summergold2]

Thanks for the information. I hope you continue doing well too. X🙂