OMG- outrageous: So, Trump has announced to the world... - NRAS

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Eiram50
Eiram50

So, Trump has announced to the world that he is now taking hydroxychloroquine has been for a couple of weeks . He’s ‘heard it’s good’. I cannot wrap my head around the level of sheer ignorance and disregard for his nation - absolutely incredible!

81 Replies
oldestnewest

Guess his scientists and docs got it for him ....

ruth_p
ruth_p
in reply to allanah

He probably stole it from someone who actually needs it

springcross
springcross
in reply to ruth_p

😂😂

If the consequences were not so alarming, it would be funny. I try to get my head around how one person can believe they have superior knowledge to the history and development of medical science, however flawed, but I can't. How can anyone believe this ?

To gain a second term as president is paramount, irrespective of the potential damage to one and all. Yet people keep supporting him.

Simply mind boggling, isn’t it?

I don’t want to wish side effects on anyone, but I might make a special exception for this moron.

bpeal1
bpeal1
in reply to helixhelix

I was thinking exactly the same! Thought I hope he gets side effects and then felt bad for wishing that on another human being. Maybe I’ll stop at hoping he gets the same side effects as I did - nothing serious, just bad stomach cramps and having to run to the loo very quickly!!

Mmrr
Mmrr
in reply to bpeal1

I developed a temporary deafness whilst on HDQ.

Now that would be a shame, a biggly shame, wouldn't wish that....such a shame, the biggest shame, a bigger shame

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to Mmrr

👍👍👍

Olderguy
Olderguy
in reply to Mmrr

🤣😂the biggest shame in the history of the world!! No one’s ever seen a bigger shame......... Ever!! 😂🤣

HevP
HevP
in reply to helixhelix

👍

Dr Rosemary Leonard was FUMING about this on breakfast television this morning. She mentioned that hair loss is one of the side effects, which would be particularly bad for Trump because he "likes his hair". I know what she was really thinking... "I hope his hair falls out".

ruth_p
ruth_p
in reply to whaleroad

I thought he wore a wig

springcross
springcross
in reply to ruth_p

No, that's the way they iron his hair! 😁

I was thinking that - he's either had it cut or lost some already as it looked shorter at the front and sides on TV this morning.

Hair loss is a side effect isn't it?

🤣😂🤣 Oh I so wish it was for a sub-set of people - mainly orange ones.....

I shouldn't comment really as I have lost loads since MTX increased, but I just can't help it! 😁😁

One can only hope that it is an extremely large dose....

I was put on it when i had to stop MTX and i was told it would protect me from the virus this was from my rheumy consultant. I was given it for my RA not to just protect me from the virus.xxxx

Twinboys
Twinboys
in reply to sylvi

Oh wow Sylvi that’s interesting to know. Months ago (when this covid nightmare started) I asked if anyone was on it that tested positive for covid and no one responded yes. (I got a lot of “I know I had covid but wasn’t tested) but no one actually tested positive. That’s interesting to know. Thanks!

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to sylvi

Your consultant told you that it would protect you from coronavirus? I’ve never heard that it would ever off protection, only that the hope for it was it could be useful as a treatment for Coronavirus.

Maybe I’ve misunderstood what’s being said? X

sylvi
sylvi
in reply to Eiram50

I found it hard to believe as well darling. Xxx

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to sylvi

That’s strange as not only have no big enough clinical trials been undertaken to date, that show anything conclusively but there is no evidence that it would prevent anyone contracting the virus. This drug has been proven not to be effective in preventing / treating influenza or any other viral infections. I understand the logic in considering this, as well as a number of other drugs that suppress immune response etc, but I’m amazed that this information would be given at this stage by a UK consultant to his patient.

Well, you live and learn xx

I’m guessing it must be a much higher dose than prescribed for RA. I was on it for 12 years with no mention of heart problems, just a potential to cause eye problems.

I think when they were trialling it (unsuccessfully) for covid they were using 600mg a day +.

That's a big dose!

I know it can cause Long QT Syndrome if taken with Ciprofloxacin.

I have long QT from it and the cardiologist wasnt worried about it. Said to keep taking it. I have never had ciproflacin .

Everyone is different. I was prescribed cipro whilst on it by my GP. My cardiologist wasn't happy as I already have cardiac issues.

I dread to think what the man is going to say next.

I completely agree with both.

As has been said it would be funny if it wasnt so serious.

I havent had tv on yet. Dont weather to even bother.

Take care 🌈

So has my husband and no medications just carry's a print out to show his normal is not a heart attack. x

We can only hope..... Maybe then people will realise what a daft thing it is to do?

Who knows, maybe he’s going for being the first ever blind POTAS! You really think he would have listened to his doctor’s advice - or at least read the patient information leaflet that came with his pills.

A lot of people thought he was an idiot - now he’s proved it.

An idiot with such power and reach, is a very dangerous idiot.

He's an idiot, trouble is, the more gullible believe him.

Many look upto him like a God. They believe everything he says.I have been on hydroxychloroquine for years but if I came into contact with coronavirus I guess it wouldn't protect me.obviously all the people dieing have not been given it there.he is waste of space

AgedCrone
AgedCrone
in reply to Fra22-57

UnFortunately there are reports that people who have taken it ......off prescription & probably unsupervised and have contracted COVID-19 have not survived!

Nuts! High doses are needed in the treatment of COVID-19! He’d be better taking 1000mg Vitamin C.

I just watched it on BBC Breakfast, my god that man is unbelievable !!

Well he has interests in a pharmaceutical company!!!! Unfortunately everything he does is for his own good. Now he blames Obama for lack of ventilators( he left the cupboard bare)Obama was an advocate for national health care which Trump was very vocal on denouncing. It’s always someone else’s fault.

dbestdeb
dbestdeb
in reply to J1707

Just an FYI, the reality of Obamacare is that the price of insurance increased causing many people to be forced to drop the insurance they had and instead pay Obama’s fine for not having insurance. You can’t believe everything you hear or read in the media. They all seem to have an agenda of their own. I am a US citizen and our current president is an embarrassment to be sure. Our two choices in that election were both hideous.

Twinboys
Twinboys
in reply to dbestdeb

I’m one of them!!! When Obama care started my insurance plan dropped me, I had to change doctors, and I presently pay $25,000 a year for my family to have health insurance.

happytulip
happytulip
in reply to Twinboys

We are very lucky in the UK to have the NHS

Twinboys
Twinboys
in reply to happytulip

We have friends that moved from UK to US about 4 years ago. I asked them “what about the US do you like better then the UK” they responded “I know you pay so much for health insurance here but the difference in the quality of care here vs. there is unbelievable” she said “my sister had a knee replacement in UK and they barely gave her any therapy and sent her home and didn’t care who was home to watch over her, my husband had one here in US and I cannot believe the amount of care and physical therapy and facilities he went to for rehab and made sure he was going home to a house that someone else was there to help him” (these people are very wealthy) so I said “well can’t you pay for a better doctor in the UK to do the surgery or hire how you want? And she said yes but it’s complicated then he can’t operate in the hospital and it gets sticky. So I ask my boys soccer (futsol) coach from UK the same question and he answered the same way.

happytulip
happytulip
in reply to Twinboys

I'm not saying the NHS is perfect, it has its flaws. But because we pay for the care in our taxes the NHS can provide free care to anyone in the UK regardless of their bank balance.

You can have anything from an ankle sprain treated to a liver transplant, and no medical bills. Regardless of who you are and what your income is.

But that wasn't the point of my original reply. I meant that I feel for you guys in that you have someone in power with no medical qualifications giving medical advice and also, if I had lupus and RD and was in the US, I just couldn't afford the medical bills. So as much as it has its flaws, I know that I feel grateful for the care that I receive. Although it can be frustrating at times.

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to happytulip

Hear, hear x

Mmrr
Mmrr
in reply to happytulip

I have relatives who moved from the the UK to the US and are on a very good health care plan, funded by his employer. They live in eternal fear of his employment being disrupted, or his well controlled type 1 diabetes becoming troublesome and affecting his long term ability to work.

They sing the praises of the NHS.

dbestdeb
dbestdeb
in reply to happytulip

Most people get health insurance through their employers. When I was a teacher, I paid a nominal $40 per month for my insurance. Different employers provide different insurance benefits. It has become part of the decision of career choice here. So not everyone struggles. If they would just leave the part alone that works and tax only for those who need it, most of us would be receiving great medical care.

Olderguy
Olderguy
in reply to Twinboys

I’ve visited The States, NY, Vegas, Washington, but I haven’t lived there so I’m in no position to comment on it’s healthcare arrangements. However, I am qualified to speak on the NHS. Over the years I have had to avail myself of it’s service. In 2004 I was ‘blue lighted’ into A&E after suffering a heart attack. Within 8 minutes I was commencing treatment by paramedics in the North of England. The NHS saved my life. In 2008, whilst in the presence of HM & Prince Philip, In London I had a similar episode. Again, I was ‘blue lighted’ in for surgery. The NHS saved my life. In 2012/2013 I had full bilateral knee replacement in an NHS hospital. The care & physio aftercare I received was 5 star. I’ve also been treated in private, expensive establishments, courtesy of my company health scheme (A perk of the job). The doctors were no better and the care, no better, it was slightly posher with an en-suite loo! When the chips are down & your life depends on it ‘posh’ is no substitute for quality of care. My parents were ecstatic to have access to and share in an equitable healthcare scheme that we now take for granted. The NHS is a beacon to the world and should be defended by everyone who has the luxury of access to it’s indiscriminate care.

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to Olderguy

Absolutely agree with that!

Twinboys
Twinboys
in reply to Olderguy

I never had health services other then the US so I cannot say either. This is just what someone (who was the President of Verizon (cable company) so I’m sure they had access to very good healthcare in the UK also. And this is also what my boys soccer coach (who doesn’t get paid very well) also said after living in the US for about 3 years. I hand a sitter for my children from Poland that had a sick mom and when she needed an operation she would say “I have to go to Poland for a week and bring gifts to my moms doctor before and after the operation so he does a good job.” I found that strange. And when my daughter studied in Florence last year she needed a doctor’s note to get out of class to spend the day with us and she went to the doctor assigned from the school and said her throat hurt. The doctor said without giving a strep test “oh my that is one of the worst strep throats I have ever seen” and gave her a prescription. I know these are isolated incidents, but here if a doctor had to be bribed he would be in jail and you cannot give antibiotics without confirmation of the sickness.

Olderguy
Olderguy
in reply to Twinboys

I don’t wish to be confrontational and know nothing of health regimes around the world. I can only speak to the care that I’ve consistently received from the NHS. I wish you well and whatever health system people around the world are subjected to I pray we all stay safe. 😷

Twinboys
Twinboys
in reply to Olderguy

Same! Hope you stay well also!

Twinboys
Twinboys
in reply to Olderguy

I didn’t want it to sound confrontational either, I just love to ask questions about other countries healthcare to try and understand it better. We have our own business so I get hit with $25,000 a year for my family’s health insurance. It makes me so mad. But I also can go to any doctor, any specialist anywhere I want to for any reason pretty much the same day I call. They say if we had universal healthcare our taxes would sky rocket and we would not have the doctors like we do now. That’s why I ask people who have lived in both places because I so want to understand it. So confusing. Oh well stay healthy!

dbestdeb
dbestdeb
in reply to Twinboys

I’m so sorry it happened to you. Thankfully I am a retired teacher and only pay $10, 000 per year to keep mine. The only good thing that came of Obamacare was the elimination of pre-existing exclusions.

I have been following this with amazement that a President weighs in on a so called cure for covid 19.

My own experience was plaquenil was brilliant when I first took it for my rheumatoid quite a few years ago and after a couple of years, my rheumatologist wasn’t happy with my joint swelling and doubled my dose.

Well within a week I had a rash that looked like I had fallen into a blackberry bush, and when I had bloods taken, my bleeding factor was affected. Immediate cessation and then onto methotrexate which has been good for me.

I think it’s really dangerous for an influential leader of the US telling people what to do medically.

I also feel for the patients with medical conditions like RA and lupus on it trying to source it presently.

It’s really irresponsible of their POTUS.

Why would he be taking a any drug. His fit as a butchers dog

I don't believe a word of it😖

Ha, ha. I’d forgotten he said that.😂🤣😂🤣

Wrong on so many levels. Dangerous.

Well I have no doubt he will be using bleach to swallow the medication.

He is well and truly a mad man.

I guess that would be his, and his doctors decision. I take it for RA and it is my concern that 2 of my prescriptions disappeared and I physically had to go to the hospital to pick up the 3rd prescription. Something is amiss and very worrying closer to home.

Total 🤡

springcross
springcross
in reply to rab1874

Yep!

A unequalled moron, followed by morons. Nothing this orange buffoon says or does surprises me anymore.

Actually there is some truth behind it that it is being used to treat covid 19 world wide thus why there are some shortages. Most likely why he has jumped on the bandwagon to start taking it. There was also a misinformed couple who believed the cloriquine not Hydroxycloriquine from a liquid cleaner was the same type and drank it the husband dies and the women was very sick.

happytulip
happytulip
in reply to Apspain

Yes, he drank his fish tank solution containing chloroquine and died. It is reported that his wife said they drank it because of what Trump had been saying about HCQ.

😢

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to Apspain

My understanding is that there a number of trials running to see if it was a suitable treatment for Covid 19 and that none of these supported that it was?

nomoreheels
nomoreheels
in reply to Apspain

Whilst there have been clinical trials to treat with HCQ he's not taking it to treat, he's taking it to prevent, quite different. Also, a large scale clinical study in the US, said to be the largest to date (1,400 patients whereas prior studies enrolled no more than 100) has shown it's failed to show benefit in treating moderate to severe Covid-19.

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to nomoreheels

Yeah, I was of a similar understanding and as you say, saw no evidence that it would or could be used to prevent

Apspain
Apspain
in reply to nomoreheels

The Hydroxycloriquine is showing to work against the inflammation , the moderate to more serious cases are showing micro clotting. Here in EU are standards are much higher in comparison to drug regulations. Where they approve use of drugs there we would not approve here. That would also apply to their Clinical trials too. Inwould focus more on Oxford university testing currently researching a vaccine and companies like Roche who well versed within Europe.

He said his doctor told him “please do not stop promoting it I have not had one patient that died that I put on it” 🤷‍♀️

I think the man is crazy to be honest

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to Bradclew

I have to agree

Mmrr
Mmrr
in reply to Bradclew

There are a few Sociopathic megalomaniacs around, some in the US, in big positions, some in bigger positions, some in the biggest position, some trying to make America great again, so I've been told.

Maybe he's just being sarcastic?

Eiram50
Eiram50
in reply to happytulip

😀😀

Nothing should surprise me what this idiot comes out with but he still manages to.What on earth must his medical people think of this.Surely there must be a time when someone stands up to him

Such an attention seeker!

O M G 😫

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