medical cannabis

[siskin]

Has anyone been prescribed medical cannabis or know of any literature showing efficacy? even if for some other ailment.

[AgedCrone]

Well CBD Oil seems to have been proved to work for the well publicised children recently who have forms of Epilepsy & associated conditions & doctors will soon be able to issue prescriptions on, I believe, a named basis for them.

I haven't seen anything about prescription Cannabis CBD OIL being allowed for people with RA though. You can buy CBD oil in pharmacies but it is apparently in very low concentration.

There is a cannabis based drug called Sativex that is approved for people with MS.....I don't know if that can be prescribed for RA, but things do seem to have moved on recently with the Home Secretary taking it very seriously.

[siskin in reply to AgedCrone]

Thank you it is the Sativex I was enquiring about but couldn't remember the name. Oil didnt work for me

[AgedCrone in reply to siskin]

Maybe ask your pharmacist? He will know if you need a prescription, or even if it's approved for RA.

Happy hunting.

[Hidden in reply to AgedCrone]

It was suggested to me by four different healthcare professionals in the UK recently

[wishbone]

Am I mistaken in thinking that the much publicised cannabis oil that the epileptic children have been taking, is or was, illegal as it contains THC, the chemical that gets you stoned? Unlike the CBD oil you can legally buy online or at Holland & Barrets?

I wouldn't mind betting that the oil with THC is more effective than the stuff without, which I found next to useless although it does seem to work for some people.

[Hidden in reply to wishbone]

I only want relief as cannot do stoned any more 😂

[wishbone in reply to Hidden]

Me neither, I haven't smoked any weed for about 3 weeks now.........

[Hidden in reply to wishbone]

I used to have a huge wild bush growing in my garden. Never worked out why the Gardner was so keen to trim it all the time.

[crashdoll]

I find it really confusing. Am I right in saying it’s CBD oil which sold in various shops, like H&B? I find it strange that it’s often touted as a cure all. I understand there is some evidence to show medical cannabis (I think it contains TCH?) helps some conditions but I’m not sure if I’ve seen or read anything about how it may help RA. From what I’ve been told, the evidence for it working for MS is not completely solid either. That said, I’m not sure how much testing has been done and anecdotally, I know a lot of them people through my job as a social worker for people with disabilities who, illegally, smoke cannabis and say it helps a lot.

[wishbone in reply to crashdoll]

My understanding is that the common or garden variety of CBD oil that's available in the shops has no THC in it so is not illegal. It's the oil with THC that's illegal and won't be sold by H&B or any other reputable shops or websites. I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that the CBD oil the parents were giving their epileptic children had THC in it and was imported from another country, Switzerland rings a bell, and was presumably proper medical grade CBD THC oil.

Not sure what the situation is in the UK, only that if medical grade CBD THC oil is ever made available on the NHS for us disabled masses, then the THC level will be strictly controlled in the hope that we can all still function usefully, at least to a certain extent. If I'm ever prescribed medical grade CBD THC oil then I'll just dig out my old Pink Floyd LPs settle down in my old recliner and chill to the groove. Far out man.... V

[AgedCrone in reply to wishbone]

The following is a from one of the many articles that appeared after the recent publicity......

"CBD Oil is one of the natural compounds found in the Marijuana plant & is extracted from the plant via steam distillation. Unlike THC, the most abundant cannabinoid, CBD does NOT have an intoxicating effect."(so put away your LPs WB!)

"In 2016 the Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency ruled that "products containing CBD used for medical purposes are a Medicine".

I presume the Home Sectetary is using that ruling to allow named patients to be prescribed CBD oil, but I can't find a list of named conditions that are included.

Presumably if anyone wants to try this oil one would have to find a doctor willing to prescribe it Privately? But for what condition........RA, Sjogrens,Lupus? There are so many AI diseases it seems it would be very difficult to decide who qualifies.

I don't know if the HS decision means it is available for the epileptic conditions we have recently read about.on the NHS or only on Private prescription?

[wishbone in reply to AgedCrone]

Very informative AC, thanks.

Put away my LPs...you must be kidding! There's a used copy of a Tangerine Dream LP from the 70's currently on its way from ebay. I'll have to make do with tramadol to soak up the vibes though, at least for now.

I've collected a reasonably sized record collection over the years and still spin one or two most days. Beats watching day time telly that's for sure. It is getting more difficult handling records with my gammy hands though, but I shall persevere as long as I can.

Take care

[AgedCrone in reply to wishbone]

I've got a box of LP's I bought in NY in the 1960's...but no record player!

I keep muttering must get them put on CD's.....but just can't get motivated!

I just read that Tony Bennet is 92 today!!! Lordy how time flies from San Francisco!

[wishbone in reply to AgedCrone]

Record players and vinyl record sales have made something of a comeback in recent years, though obviously nowhere near the scale as back in their heyday.

There's a large selection of new record players available with prices ranging from a couple of hundred dollars (I never knew you lived in the US) to many thousands. CD players are much more convenient though, and the compact discs much cheaper to buy than the equivalent vinyl LP. Even used LPs like the one I've just bought on ebay are not cheap. Some records sell for big bucks, so that box of LPs you bought in NY could be worth a small fortune. Then again, perhaps not.

[AgedCrone in reply to wishbone]

No I don't live in the US now....I went there on trips ( (I was Cabin Crew) in the 60's & lived there for a couple of years in the 80's.

All the big name records were released first in the US, so I was Miss Popularity lugging them home for all & sundry! Before they were available in the UK.

I keep meaning to make a list of all my 1960's LP's & getting a value for them...but on looking at them I seemed to have had some odd tastes. Don Shirley's Waterboy was a favourite, but I think he sank without trace!

[wishbone in reply to AgedCrone]

Don Shirley's Waterboy?...that's a new one for me! "sank without trace" my foot...LOL. You never know, it could be a sought after rarity worth thousands...of pounds that is now you've told me you're in the UK.

Worth getting them LPs checked out. Like most things, they do need to be in nice condition. Not good if they sound like a bowl of rice krispies when played.

[Anon292918 in reply to crashdoll]

HEMP cbd oil doesn't work..its thc cbd oil that work pmsl

[woodstar1]

There is loads and loads on how effective full spectrum medical cannabis is for RA. Have a look at doctorfrank.com I honestly think this could be a game changer for us and just hope we are able to get it. I have a pal of mine with fibromyalgia and he gets it somehow and he is so much much better..

[Sjhoney]

Hi, I have a friend with RA who uses cannabis oil and tells me it makes a difference, she also has a monthly infusion so she’s not using it in isolation. She gets it from a local vaping shop. Hope this helps 😊

[thelmar]

I take CBD oil which is legal in this country as it has less than .2% THC. If you go back on my previous posts on the subject you will see that I have had a lot of help and support from a closed Facebook group and also visited one of the main suppliers. I had to stop it two weeks before a full hip replacement and at that point realised just how much it helps me. I do still take methotrexate and have a monthly infusion of Abatacept. It is the painkillers that I am gradually reducing.

[Rheumagal]

I am in Canada and have a medical cannabis license. I have had RA for over 10 years. Tried “go-to” meds from Rheumatologist but went off in favour of cannabis. I’m enjoying some great results. Relief from inflammation and pain, better sleep, eased severe digestive problems, anxiety, headaches and hair loss - a result of inflammation. I haven’t needed my wheelchair or walker since using cbd oils. Important to note that I am using cbd oils (not thc)that are produced by a medical supplier. These videos from arthritis Society you might find interesting. Additionally, if you google RA and cannabis there are quite a few notable websites that come up.

arthritis.ca/treatment/medi...

[bigtfrancis]

yes ,RSO works beautifully on RA pain,been using it for 5 years now, no growth in RHUM. factor in that time ,pain down, using less opiate.exercise with cannabis oil is the answer.Recently obtained a state medical card.

[Rheumagal]

Here’s some info on medical marijuana.

Cbd is only one of 2 main cannabinoids found in cannabis. (Cbd and thc)

Each variety of plant contains varying amounts of one or both (cbd or thc) and contain many therapeutic properties. Other compounds known as terpenes also contain many therapeutic properties. You may have come across terpenes if you’ve read anything about essential oils. Lavender for example contains a terpene called linalool known for calming and relaxing. Linalool is also a common terpene found in strains of marijuana. Along with others such as Caryphophyllene known for anti-inflammatory and pain relief.

You have cbd which is shown to be anti-inflammatory, pain relief, anti- anxiety, help improve sleep and more.

Then you have the isolated thc which also has medical benefits such as pain relief, improve mood, helpful for sleep and more.

You can find products that are only cbd dominant in an oil, thc dominant oil, cbd dried marijuana and thc dried marijuana which you can vaporize or smoke. Vaporizing however is safer and lowers chances respiratory issues since it works much like diffusing by releasing the terpenes (components found in the essential oil) of the plant.

Quality matters. I’m in Canada so there are a ton of medical producers and clinics where you get a medical grade product that is much more effective because it goes through rigorous testing etc...

I’ve heard of some buying off internet or from dispensaries but often it’s not potent enough. And hemp oil is often mislabeled or sold as cbd oil but it is not the potent medical grade that is used for ms or epilepsy or other chronic pain. I use a cbd dominant oil.

I also use a cbd dominant dried marijuana with no thc. These both give me incredible relief without getting stoned. I have tried a thc dominant variety occasionally at night to help relieve pain at night so I can sleep but I don’t need it often since the cbd oils work so well.

I started at a low dose and have gradually increased to a higher one. It takes time to work. I noticed at about 3-6 months the biggest improvement. I now have most of my mobility back whereas at the start of the summer my husband was pushing me around in a wheelchair when I wasn’t confined to my bed.

Here’s a link to explore more questions. There’s not a lot Of research but lots of anecdotal results. If you scroll down you’ll se some links to videos about research and some personal experience

arthritis.ca/treatment/medi...