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Danger Danger, Will Robinson...... More on my HHD Experince

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There used to be a television show back in my day where the robot would flail his mechanical arms, blink all his lights and yell “Danger, Danger Will Robinson.” Well, we have had our own HHD episodes of “Danger, Danger.” I sort of smile, not laugh at them now. But oh boy….

It seems amazing to be that it has been 3 months now. We are home only a month. If I knew that it was like starting over when we came home, I would have not spent 8 weeks at the center, training. I would have come home sooner. It was totally different. The first day home, I had the Head Nurse come for the visit. She was assigned to me from the beginning and so she is sticking with me. She let me set up on my own, and she cannulated me. We went over so much stuff again, and truthfully, I have no recollection of what she said. The visit went well and no mechanical issues.

Then the next time, my med tech came out. We absolutely love her. She is wonderful. She again let me set up, and stayed for the whole visit. No issues. Again, I did all the set up and take down with her. Things were going too smoothly. She has to cannulate me because my fistula is still very new and tender. One mistake, and I will have a big issue. Personally, she likes us and likes to get out of the office.

Then day 3 hit. I forgot to stop the machine before I primed the lines. “Danger, Danger, Will Robinson.” Once we hit go, alarms started going off like crazy. The med tech let me make the mistake instead of stopping me. There was air in the system, actually the dialyzer, because I did not prime it right. She attached a syringe, pulled put the air and things were fine. The alarms are scary as, well can’t type what I want to say. Needless to say, that won’t happen again, and it hasn’t.

I made myself instruction that are now huge and pasted on the wall with a big stop sign where I need it.

The next week, my Med Tech came out to just get me cannulated. She poked me and then after my pressures adjusted, she left. I have been taking me off the machine for a while, with her assistance, and thought, "piece of cake".

“Danger, Danger, Will Robinson.” I go to hook up the arterial line to the saline bag to do the return of my blood….. and forgot to open the clamps. OH BOY, did we have alarms. We called the company who was so very calming. I was pretty hysterical. They get to you immediately if you are on treatment. He gave us directions to try to fix the issue. Once I took a breath, I realized the clamps were closed. But it was too late. He directed my husband on the steps to do, and he was panicking. He hit the end of the table where I have all the supplies and they go flying. He couldn’t find the right syringe. Finally, we were told to abandon ship and just pull out my needles and leave it. By that time, I was coagulating and that is more dangerous.

Turns out that abandoning ship is recommended more than they tell you in training. They go over all the alarms, but until you are in an actual situation, you cannot imagine what it is like. You call the company, they try, and if no-go in a short amount of time, you just stop and remove your needles. There is less than 50 cc or 1.5 ounces of blood loss. Easy peasy. Come to find out from my med tech, they don’t tell you this in the beginning, but in anytime something happens and you cannot fix it. Just stop. You can start clean later on or the next day or in my case, skip it. They do not want you to do that very often. Also turns out that if you stop the alarm, hit stop on the machine and then go, it will clear a lot of the alarms as well. They show you this in training, but it is totally different when you are on the machine, blood flowing and alarms screaming.

The next faux pas, (ooops) was so pathetic. We had just changed the sak (the dialysate). There is a large claw with three ports on it to connect to the cycler and one of the twist-off ends was gone. I had just primed the machine, saline flowing like crazy and I hear water running. I'm thinking, that’s not right. And sure enough, the open port on the claw was spilling fluid out all like crazy all over my floor. Clamped it, problem solved. Mopped up the dialysate and we were good to go because we had plenty to do the treatment. Funny thing was in center training, I had a line come undone because I did not check the connection. And it poured saline out all over the floor. Now I check every clamp and every connector.

The issue we are having now, and I do not understand it all, is pressures. There is a certain level you want the machine to run at and if the pressure is off, it can be dangerous or stop the cycler. The pressure reading comes from the fistula and how the needle is placed. If it is not drawing correctly, the pressure will go above 250. That is a no no. If the little “do hicky” (access pressure control connector) is on too tight or too loose or it is a full moon, or it is the third Tuesday in Sagittarius…. it will screw up the pressure. You simply stop the machine, adjust where you need to, either the needles or the “do hicky”, and off you go.

I am going to say, and I did not think I would, it gets easier every day. The inventory is not difficult to manage. They do send you a ton of stuff in the beginning to get you going. But you reorder only what you need. The set up and take down are getting smoother and easier every time.

The best news is it is working pretty well. Two months ago, my Nephrologist was really pushing me to go either another hour or another day. I do only 2 hours, 3 days a week. I was not running at full speed yet, which is blood flow rate. And I was on a smaller needle. Getting up to speed (400) regularly and using a 15-gauge needle has proven to be great. This month’s clinic, she said I will stay at this treatment prescription for now. The difference for me, which many people do not have is I still pee A LOT. So, my body is not retaining any fluid and the dialysis is cleaning it sufficiently for now. They have a scale they use which is called Kt/V. Low is 1.2 and the high-end range is 2.4. They want you above 1.2. My clearance is 3.2….. way over the high level. So, I am good.

Would I recommend home hemo now? Yes, I would. Pluses include having everything you could possibly need at home to do this is provided. I am in my jammies and slippers, hair a mess and I sit and read for two hours and talk with my husband or med tech. I start the prep at 8:15. I am usually on treatment by 9:15, and we are removing needles and stopping the blood, clean up and turn off by 12:15 or sooner. All the problems are sort-out-able. Am I still stress? Oh yeah, no lie, I am. But it is getting better with every failure and every success. I am not sure I would want to do this on my own, but many, MANY, do. In Europe, this is the treatment they use much more than us. Single-in-home-HHD.

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honeybug profile image
honeybug

Bm sweetie…Wowwwwwww!!!!

I’m sooooooo very proud of you dear friend ❣️

I’m awestruck at your whole experience of HHD. I myself find it just as important to go through the errors/ what ifs early on so you can calmly recover from them down the road when they do occur.

I’m in Michigan and so glad to know you’re on this side of the pond with me.

I love your Will Robinson analogy. A little levity always helps I think. You are great at it. 🤗

Best wishes on your HHD journey. I just said a special prayer for you.

Take care stay safe my friend.

Love and prayers.

EJ 🤗♥️🥰🙏🕊🌿🌸🦋

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horsie63

Good for you. You have come a long way. Would I do this, nope. I don't have the room, don't want to stick myself ( hubby won't) and I'd basically be on my own. I don't think, even though there are some, the clinic I go to is set up like yours.

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Mgt8

Reading your piece took me right back to my dialysis days. Dialysis at home is a great option. Like you, I enjoyed the freedom it gave. However, I don't think I would do it again, totally alone. Most days it was fine, five hours reading a book is no hardship. Getting up every now and again to stretch. However, twice while sitting and coming off the machine, I blacked out. Awaking to find blood leaking. Quickly coming to my senses and frantically searching for clamps. Not an experience I would like to repeat again.

Having a second person I believe is essential, which is unfortunate for those of us who are so independent. Perhaps having a friend in to sit with you, who knows what to do if something goes wrong.

In the uk, pip can also be claimed for those who 'solo hhd' so if there is nobody to help, this could be used to pay someone to keep an eye and act in an emergency.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Best wishes

Mgt

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply toMgt8

I was very surprised to find out the in parts of Europe, in home, and single in home is the way people go. We have a few people in my center (the home organization that does the training) there are a few who are single. I met one person from Spain who does HHD everyday by himself. Amazing. And he has a full and wonderful life.

I have to do BP readings every half hour. Then before we unhook, we do a sitting and standing. Only once has my BP was a bit low. They should me how to give saline to myself with the line, and it went back up. That was in center when I was more relaxed. My issue is my BP goes up, sometimes way up, before I take myself off. That's because I am still stressed about it.

What you say about the government providing legislation to approve for all HHD patients a caregiver is my newest quest. There is a huge push to get more people on HHD by CMS. They are incentivizing doctors like crazy to recommend it. That money, and it is BIG money should go to support people to be caregivers or in home med techs. They can teach non-clinical people to do this in center, they can teach support people to come in home. Right now, you can get someone to come in to clean your house, and have it paid for with insurance, but they cannot touch you, your machine or have anything to do with dialysis.

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drmind

I knew you'd be mastering the system soon. Congratulations for achieving what you have so far and for being persistent even though the scary alarms woukd be enough to make others quit. Best wishes on your continued progress HHD.

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Beachgirl32

so happy for you that it all working out for you . The only one I ever knew on home hemo was my cousin who travel through the united state in her rv she had her husband to help her I think it would be easier with a care partner. Kudos to the one who do it themself . My cousin from her travel decided to stay in Arizona and went to Mayo got transplant there so.

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply toBeachgirl32

Yes, I bet they are the couple who started the Facebook group I am on. They travel(ed) in a RV. They have the machine right in the back and she plugs in all over the country. Amazing.

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horsie63

There's a FB group called LivingonDialysis. She's blind and he is her caregiver, they do HHD. There's also a man on HHD who travels all over the country to centers giving demonstrations and education on HHD.

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply tohorsie63

Yup. Thats's the one. with LivingonDialysis. He is great and was very encouraging to me to join his group and the monthly Cares Zoom calls.

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horsie63 in reply toBassetmommer

They seem like very nice people.

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Trill

I say that too, as we have a robot figure of him, and he has a voice which says that!

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barbara55109

Thanks again for sharing.

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CuriousCKD

I swear, reading your narrative made me feel like I was right there with you. Empathy off the charts! My heart is pounding right now, as I type. Knowing my husband and myself, it would be keystone kops in our house, racing around screeching like chickens! I am really happy that you’re both adapting to the situation you’ve been dealt. You are a true kidney warrior!

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BassetmommerNKF Ambassador in reply toCuriousCKD

Your description made me laugh......because that was exactly what happened when we were taking me off. Keystone cops all the way. First, I misdialed the number we have to call. I couldn't see the number on the machine. I dialed something and got "CONGRATUALIONS, you are the winner...." that sent me over the cliff. My husband did not have it in his phone. Finally I got through but by then I am crying and my hands are shaking. The guy on the phone was so pleasant and calming. He directed my husband to put a certain syringe on the a port to pull air. We had no idea what syringe he was talking about. Then as my husband went around to the machine, he hit all the little bins of stuff I have on the end of the table and they go all over the floor... and we have to toss some of it.

I will say that Nxstage is wonderful about helping you. I did not know before but you can all them immediately through the IPAD. There are things you learn to fix so you do not have the same issues. For example, I rearranged my room so now the stuff is not in anyone's way but still accessible. The phone number is boldly pasted up on the machine where it is impossible not to see and the number is in our phones. The machine is more open to get at and there is generally more room. I also retyped the "get off process" and put it on a cardboard that I can see clearly while I am coming off.... including what clamps to open and when. What is the saying, "do it once, ok, do it twice, shame on me." I am using that and sticking to it.

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CuriousCKD in reply toBassetmommer

Well, at least through trial and error, you’re finding a successful, systematic way of going about this lifesaving procedure. It’s definitely a tough way to do it, but I’m really glad you have that tenacity to overcome these obstacles. At 77, I don’t know that I would even attempt dialysis, if and when it comes to that point. I have a lot of other health issues besides kidneys, and I’m tired, so at this moment in time, what you’ve experienced so far makes me think you’re Superwoman! I’m so glad you’re feeling better.

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bumblebee_tuna

Bassetmommer I would be interested to know what your BUN readings are on Home Hemo. My nephrologist is telling me that I would be better off on Hemo because my BUN is constantly elevated on PD

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My BUN on dialysis came down from 58to 49. NO one has said if that is bad.

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