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I was given this chart at last appointment.

My platelets have remained almost the same from last month .590 now 605 ….We agreed to keep to every other day on Hydroxy. Next appointment in 3 months.

Have people found when this happens they start going up ? I’m happy at the moment to stay around 600 rather than up meds.

Thanks in advance

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EPguy

The plot shows a steady down trend, is there a point missing? From the plot, it looks like steady progress, but it will take more results to know whether it has stopped declining. It is normal to go down slower as it gets lower. I assume you started the HU at the highest point, is that right?

By coincidence my PLT rise also started around 2013.

I saw your prior comment "light head sensation or clamped like feeling" that got better with HU. Is that still gone? I can say the same, got better but not always. That symptom is impossible to describe to anyone who has not had it.

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Mostew in reply to EPguy

Not sure we’re to look for point missing. Where do you think? I’m not good with charts..Yes started at highest point . And yes has got much better . Light headness completely gone . Clamp still a bit there …

I do agree , so hard to describe when asked.

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EPguy in reply to Mostew

You noted in the top post an increasing trend on the PLT. But in the plot you showed, the trend is clearly down. This gets into statistics etc that I'm not good at either, but my basic engineering training has that plot showing your PLT going down, with nothing showing upward. I've learned some on this with all the Covid data. But you should get some more CBCs to confirm the trend.

I see your comment with Hunter on reducing symptoms; I would do almost anything of reasonable risk to cut these lower. One definition of good symptom level is whether one can travel freely without worry of a set of debilitating flattening bad days during the trip.

I will probably never see my husband's overseas family again unless something gets a lot better.

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Mostew in reply to EPguy

That's a good way of evaluating. I'm lucky .

Yes I can travel without symptoms getting worse. In fact I'm so much better than when my children were little . I used to need a nap at back of car after shopping . That was before I was diagnosed with underactive thyroid .

All my other blood counts are fine.

So hard for you not to be able to travel . Where does your husbands family live ?

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EPguy in reply to Mostew

My bad days can be anytime, if I could schedule them better I'd have room for a longer trip...

Young kids are a "condition" in their own right, a lot of loving and hard work.

Family is in Thailand. We used to go regularly, but it's a long way with so many unknowns.

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Mostew in reply to EPguy

Hard to schedule when you don't know when it's going to be a bad day... maybe take a chance ? Thailand is such a great place . If you can stay a while it could be just what you need

I laughed at you saying children a condition!!! They are indeed ...

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hunter5582

If the trend line over time is clearly up then it would be an indication for a need to review the treatment plan. Variance from 590 to 605 is not significant and well within the normal variance we all experience. Providing you remain symptom-free, hovering round 600 is a very reasonable plan and at the target some MPN Specialists now use for ET.

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Mostew in reply to hunter5582

Would you be aiming for completely symptom free? I’m so happy to be ‘nearly’ and so reluctant to up meds. BUT if it would be better at this point to I suppose I should ‘bite the bullet’

Only I can decide, I know that , but thoughts as ever, appreciated

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hunter5582 in reply to Mostew

I think it depends on what the symptoms are. Some are more tolerable than others. We always have to weigh the intrinsic risk of a higher dose when making the decision. It really does depend on your treatment goals and risk tolerance.

All the best.

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Mostew in reply to hunter5582

At the moment my goal is to try and keep all blood tests reasonable ,and not to have symptoms that are really bothering me . So far so good .

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mhos61

My thoughts.

You’ve had an excellent response to hydrea (like myself). Your counts have reduced by half; you must be delighted with this result.

However, its likely without a further increase in your meds the platelets will now bounce around the numbers you’ve mentioned, as you’re on a very low dose.

You have to do what you feel comfortable with. How are your other blood counts holding up? If ok, you still have room to titrate meds without detriment, you can always decrease again if you feel uncomfortable. You may just eliminate any remaining symptoms. X

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Mostew in reply to mhos61

Your thoughts are most welcome. Realisticly I know probably will need to up meds.

And find it helpful to talk to others who understand.

I'm so reluctant to take more..but maybe better to now rather than wait. ...........

Hope you are doing OK

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mhos61 in reply to Mostew

Yes, I’m doing fine thanks.

I know you remain cautious with regards to an increase in your meds, and that’s totally understandable.

Your next blood test should give you a better indicator of where you stand ‘numbers wise’.

As I’ve said before, you’re on a really low dose of hydrea already. If you were to increase it by just one more tablet, you’d still be on a low dose.

I’m reading between the lines here, so correct me if I’m wrong. I feel that you’re comfortable with your platelets at the current 590/600, but you mention being ‘nearly’ symptom free. I guess that’s why you’re considering upping your dose of hydrea, to see if you benefit. If that’s the case, the way I see it is, you’ll never know unless you try. If it doesn’t help with any remaining symptoms within a reasonable timeframe , you can always reduce again.

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Mostew in reply to mhos61

That’s what one dr. Suggested . Just taking one more tablet..I mentioned nearly symptom free as I wanted to be honest .

Would rather have slight clamped head than ta ke more meds at the moment …

I like the idea of waiting for next blood test , then if no change will definitely add 1 tablet

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