Residential college and benefits

[CT76]

If my son goes to residential college and the placement is dual funded ( health and social ) does he loose his PIP?

He is on my claim at the moment but when he turns 20 will he be entitled to and attend residential college?

Carers Allowance, does that stop ? He will hopefully return weekends or at least everyother, and holidays. If its every other weekend I am assuming it stops. If so how have others managed as I wont be in a position to find full time work as he will still need care those weekends and holidays?

Thankyou in advance x

[Mybestfriends]

Hi not experienced in this but my adult Son lives independently & PIP goes into His Bank, I am unpaid Carer. I would expect its a case in Change in Circumstances, when you do report, I imagine with all details given, they would reduce PIP to you & transfer to his Residential College Bank Account, but as its a Personal Independent Payment, maybe Son would receive all as Direct Payments or you to transfer to him. Depends on who is dealing with all/Caring for him & if Son has Capacity to deal with his Money/Banking. I would call C.A.B for advice. You've asked on here, someone may have gone through this & be more knowledgeable than i've been. Hope this helped a little.

[Head_cook]

It’s a long time since my son went to residential and things change, but back in the day, your carers allowance you still got it when they return home, you just need to notify them of what’s happening. He won’t lose his pip’s

[BenjiB]

I think you’ve asked this before so I may be repeating myself. My son has just finished residential college. He is funded 100% by nhs continuing healthcare and by the LA for the education part. My son didn’t come home on weekends but was home all holidays so was considered a “boarder”.

Whilst at college the daily living part of PIP stops. The mobility is paid as usual. Carers allowance stops.

When he’s home you can claim carers allowance for the time home and also the daily living component of pip. You need to ring both of them each time and give them the dates he’s home.

He can also claim ESA or Universal credit in his own name. My son gets UC.

Im not entirely sure whether your son would need to pay a contribution though.

I’m not sure what you mean by “on your claim” so can’t help with that but as said above he can claim benefits in his own name. Just recently though the rules for universal credit and students has changed,

Is it a 38 week placement or 52? It’s difficult if it’s a 38 week placement as they are home all holidays and if they need support it makes it hard to work but you just have to find something to fit in around them, working from home or school based work.

[CT76 in reply to BenjiB]

Yes I may have asked this before but consfused . I read something about being part funded and hospital rules. At the moment my son is on my tax credits claim so I have child tax credit for him, Child benefit also. This cant be changed until he turns 20. Then I think he may be entitled to UC but not 100% sure. Its a 52 week placement but is able to come home weekends/ holidays.

[BenjiB in reply to CT76]

It doesn’t matter who pays for placement. The same applies. Daily living stops and so does carers allowance. I’m not sure how it works with a 52 week placement, like whether you can claim carers or daily living of pip when home or not as his placement is being paid for 52 weeks. I could, as my sons placement was only 38 weeks so he was a termly boarder. Have you tried the Mencap helpline? Or maybe ask the college if they can put you in touch with other parents who may be able to help.

You can change the tax credits if you want. My son has had UC since he turned 18, he just came off of our tax credits claim then. Depends which way works out better,

[CT76 in reply to BenjiB]

Citizens Advice said he has to stay on my claim until he is 20 but will double check this..they also said he keeps his PIP hence why Im confused. I will speak to the college also. Not tried mencap .

[maz40 in reply to BenjiB]

Hi Benji Can you help me with

Residential please

Regarding funding

Thank you

Marie

[BenjiB in reply to maz40]

of course. What do you need to know?

[maz40 in reply to BenjiB]

My Daughter get full CHCDid you have any argument regarding CHC paying for Residential placement

Also education.

Thank you

[BenjiB in reply to maz40]

Hi

Residential college or residential care? We went to tribunal for college because education didn’t want to pay their part of the fees. CHC were always willing to pay their part of the fees. It was incredibly stressful and almost destroyed us emotionally and financially.

His residential placement where he lives now is funded by NHS continuing healthcare solely. Although they are now wanting social care to fund it. It’s really expensive over £5k per week so I knew this would crop up.

[maz40 in reply to BenjiB]

HiSorry residential College for September 2023

Think going to have same problem !

Being going on since January

Thank you

[BenjiB in reply to maz40]

oh god. Look up the legal time frames if you haven’t already. They have to to give you a decision by March.

For over 20 years I never gave my son’s EHCP much thought, I went along to the annual reviews and just muddled through, until it came to college! They left it until late July to tell us they weren’t funding after putting us through hell and the lies!!! Omg 😱. We won our tribunal in March (they didn’t even defend it, put in no “evidence” …. They had none …. and had to admit defeat before it got chucked out) I thought they thought they’d get away with funding 2 1/2 years instead of 3 but college suggested going as a day student until July for transition and then start the residential placement in the September for 3 years . So they had to fund a taxi there and back every day and an escort and then 3 years residential. Kind of made up for the extortionate legal fees.

[maz40 in reply to BenjiB]

Looks like fight on my hands never ending Thank you for your reply's

Really helpful

Hope everything going well

Now for your Son.

[BenjiB in reply to maz40]

thank you, yes all going well. Glad to be out of education now! IPSEA is a good resource for SEND law. Loads of info on their page and you can book to talk to their experts x

[Torybird in reply to BenjiB]

did you finally find out the correct answer? I’m also now looking at the same questions 🙈🙈

[BenjiB in reply to Torybird]

which bit do you have questions about?

[BenjiB]

The daily living component isn’t paid only the mobility part.

[BenjiB]

Pip daily living ceases, I’m 100% certain on that because it’s for daily living expenses which he doesn’t need whilst at college. He does keep the mobility component though although if you have a motability car that will have to be returned.

[Karunafae]

Hi, I'm wondering how it turned out as I'm now in the same boat and even my daughter's social worker has no idea what I should do. I just filled in the yes/no form on UC and it just went through as me still getting payments for my 18yr old. There wasn't a place for me to write that she's away Mon - Fridays, term time. That doesn't seem right, although I'm still buying her clothes, toiletries etc ...and they want about £25 a week 'pocket money'. No one seems to know where this money comes from or what I should do. Thanks