Get the kettle on girls, will be interested to see what he says.
Iain Duncan smith is being interviewed on the And... - LUPUS UK
Iain Duncan smith is being interviewed on the Andrew Marr show 9am Sunday 20th March, so if you want to see what he says you have 40minutes
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Thank you, I'm very keen to watch noonoo ⭐️
Thanks - cuppa in hand I watched rivited! Wow - events are unfolding in such a dramatic way just now! Whoever thought we could steal the show on political intrigue when Trump is so at large across the Atlantic?! Amazing to watch and a massive relief that, whether or not IDS actually has taken the moral high ground - this dreadful assault on some the most vulnerable people has effectively been shown up for what it is... or hopefully was - a clear sign of wickedness and greed as motivators from the political elite.
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Hi Twitchy, I was pleased with his passion towards the end. This has bought it to the forefront, more people will be aware what's going on now.
It's not done George Osborne any favours whatsoever, in fact not done this government any favours either. If the 50m a day given to the Eu would that not best help the people of this country, I don't know what I will vote yet, need to understand what it will mean if we opt out. I do know we wouldn't need to answer to Brussels when making decisions. Why can't we all be independent Scotland, England, Wales but still be able to help each other out when required. (I don't really understand the politics) wish I did.
That's just me a passionate person who would help anyone in need of it.
Take care.
The British who live on the other side of the channel would be very grateful if you did vote to stay as we will - otherwise our futures become very uncertain. There are some 2.2 millions of us who may have to suddenly pay our medical cover if we are retired and will have to seek permission to remain in our homes as non-EU citizens.
They keep telling you that you will "not have to answer to Brussels" - possibly not in some things and that ay be good. However, if the UK hopes to have something like Norway and Switzerland have in the way of economic relations you will still be paying in similar amounts to the fund to be allowed that - but will have no say whatsoever in ANY decisions in Brussels. Listen to Norway on that. It will be very expensive to continue to export to the EU - lose this market and there will be many businesses that will go under in the period of finding new markets.
And if Trump gets in - don't imagine for a moment that he will want open markets with the UK or anyone else - he will do his utmost to close the borders to non-American goods.
I couldn't see Marr - I live in Italy, but I don't think I would believe a work IDS utters. He was still supporting the policy on Friday - what changed his mind so fast other than personal gain?
I think there are totally valid pros and cons on both side of the EU in/out debate, but I'm pretty sure I'll vote to stay in when the time comes. Why? Because although being free of some of Brussel's red tape would no doubt be beneficial, I think there is a far bigger risk that a future PM (e.g. like George Osborne or similar) would have no constraining or balancing influence and would be completely free to make laws that take even less account of the vulnerable in our society. Some of the EU laws around Employee Rights, Human Rights, etc. are essential if we have a government that is so obsessed with making the rich richer and not giving a damn about those less fortunate. For all it's shortcomings (and there are many) I'd prefer some secondary legal framework which acts as a sort of coalition and prevents complete autonomy by a national government which may not be acting in the best interests of the whole of it's population. Total autonomy isn't always a good thing!
I'm still on the fence too. But from a rheumatology perspective, being part of EULAR is very positive for people with Lupus and other rheumatic conditions. The more rare your autoimmunity is the more helpful it is to be part of a larger, more international community I feel. I would fear being part of a UK that was independant of the EU with the current government thinking it's acceptable to persecute the disabled.
I was an invited guest speaker at the EULAR congress in 2014 and really felt the benefits of being part of this community on many levels. So I'm likely to be pro remaining in Europe on balance - although many misgivings about having to cow tow to Brussels of course.
Hi, thank you for your responses to IDS as I really know nothing about politics and will need to look into the "for and against" thank you twitchy and PMRpro your responses and anyone else's will help me. As I have said before I was in denial when I was diagnosed and carried on as if it had not happened to me so since realising that this pain is not for nothing I am starting to learn more about this debilating disease and much of that is down to you guy's.
I am ignorant of what goes on in the world I do not read newspapers anymore as I am depressed enough and feel this world is just so evil I don't want to know about it, this may alienate me from some people in this community and if it does it does, not much I can do about that.
I like Andrew Marr as he sticks to his guns when interviewing his guests and as they are usually MP's, I thought letting you guy's know that IDS was a guest on there today it may be of interest.
I think I will now crawl back under my shell and go to sleep.
Goodbye all
noonoox
I don't believe anyone should feel any obligation to take a political stance or even be gemmed up or use HU communities to lobby on any political matter - and I personally rarely get involved or keep up with politics these days. Like you I find a lot of it too depressing.
But I did get fired up about this PIP business because I've read so many desperate posts on here and on other HU communities from claimants and last year had a small battle with my GP to get contributory ESA. I would have just bailed out at the first hurdle but won 6 months on the lowest amount of ESA because the job centre/ DWP person was so forceful with me about my right to claim as a longstanding self employed person. It was just a small window into the hurdles many face who have long term disabilities. I think there comes a time when we have to stand up and be counted occasionally and for me this was one. X
What about the boys?
Ta NooNoo. Just watched the interview on catch-up. Very interesting. I must admit to having the same views as IDS and that the budget was at best ill conceived. To target the disadvantaged for a poultry £1.3 billion causing pain and unpopularity when we are in debt to the tune of £1.6 Trillion is utter madness.
