Soy

[Matt2584]

Hi folks,

This is an interesting article from Anya Vien about soy and hypothyroidism.

anyavien.com/your-grandmoth...

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star]

Thank you for this Matt, I did have hypothyroidism and a multinodular goitre way before my soy intake was at the level it is now, being vegan I have more soy than ever and as of yet not noticed my thyroid getting worse - that said I no how many people say stay away from Soy and flouride, but you do start to wonder what actually is ok to eat? I am not saying there is no link to making the conditions worse, we are not all the same, but for me I personally haven't noticed anything

[Matt2584 in reply to Kitten-whiskers]

No problem :).

How long have you been ingesting soy?

The actor Tobey Maguire had to eat a lot of tofu (fermented soybeans) to beef himself up for his role in the Spider-man films in early 2000s. I wonder what his health/Thyroid is like now?

He might be completely alright, you never know. Like you were saying, soy hasn’t affected you in any way and it might not have affected Tobey either and I would think there are loads of people out there who have soy on a daily basis that are in good health but it still could be a dodgy ingredient, who really knows.

I personally avoid soy whenever I can.

As for soy milk, I have had it in a coffee before and it tastes ok but I have also drunk some neat and it tastes weird.

[Kitten-whiskers Administrator Vegan star in reply to Matt2584]

I did cut out Soya all together for about a month and it made no difference. Cooper has a really good point about leaky gut, I have leaky Gut (which I am now working on) but these intolerances wouldn't be an issue if they hadn't entered our blood stream and caused the immune system to misfire like it does.

Neat soya milk is foul, but I do have it in tea, I personally don't like any other milks in my tea.

I am really working hardon my health at present, had a Gut test done (privately) and once all that is sorted, I will be doing a food test as well, I have a problem with potatoes

[Cooper27 Administrator]

I am skeptical about soya being the root cause for everyone.

From the reading I've done into hashimotos, it usually starts with a leaky gut and a trigger food. Anecdotal information suggests soya is a trigger for 40% of cases, but gluten is a trigger for 75%. Neither of them would be a trigger if we didn't have the leaky gut issues in the first instance though.

My mum had hypothyroidism (not sure if hers was autoimmune) and I have hashimotos, and neither of us ate much soya when it developed. My mum certainly realised gluten was an issue for her, while I'm still trying to work out my triggers.

[Matt2584 in reply to Cooper27]

Interesting. Have you got or had leaky gut issues?

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to Matt2584]

Well I have an autoimmune condition, so that means I have leaky gut issues, as far as I can tell.

The question most have is whether the leaky gut comes first or second. I personally ascribe to the theory that leaky gut comes first, allowing "trigger foods" to permeate the gut barrier, triggering an immune response. The autoimmune disease is then triggered because the body confuses the food particles with the body's own natural outputs.

Probably a simplistic way to put is that my immune system has spotted that my thyroid hormones are present wherever this food particle threat is, so the thyroid hormones must be related to the threat and should also be eliminated. It's then tracing the hormones back to source (the thyroid) and attempting to kill the source.

[HOBIEONE]

Hi Matt, I love my Soy on my Stir-Fries. Makes to dish taste good.

[Zest]

Hi Matt2584

I shall look forward to reading the article sometime soon, as I am interested in reading about Soy.

Thanks for sharing it.

Hope you're enjoying the day so far.

Zest