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Low (ish) carbing is for me.

Pollylolly
Pollylolly

I went low carb back in Feb this year.

I'm now 3 st lighter and now on maintenance.

I'm finding it harder to maintain now as I can slip back into bad habits, but I check myself when going to eat something more and more.

I saw this as my end goal a new way of eating a total change of lifestyle for me.

Anyone else low carbing or lowish as in under 130g per day.

Did you find it easy or hard. I found it really easy to lose the weight. It's keeping it off that is hard.

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Well

I am following a low carb high fats keto diet.

Usually carbs around 30 to 50 gms per day

Once a week goes around 100 gms in a day

I am a T2D and manage to have blood glucose in the normal range and in ketosis many a days

My last A1c was 4.8 as per the lab reading and a couple of months back around 5.1 on a meter

I am a lacto ovo vegetarian

My primary meal has eggs and lots of non starchy vegetables to the time of 3 to 4 veggies a day

It's a life style I adopted and rarely cheat

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Shashikantiyengar
Shashikantiyengar in reply to Hidden

India

Mumbai

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Shashikantiyengar
Shashikantiyengar in reply to Hidden

Means I take eggs and milk being. A vegetarian

No meat or fish

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Shashikantiyengar
Shashikantiyengar in reply to Hidden

Many of us are allergic or cannot tolerate milk & milk products

In such case only Ghee can be tolerated as all the milk proteins are taken out in this process of making ghee

People often see a range of initial benefits on a low-carb diet when compared with their previous lifestyle. Maintaining those improvements is more of a problem. With weight if you are eating meat/fish then you are guaranteed to be taking in 30% fat in every mouthful, no matter whether you take the skin off or steam it. Ask yourself where does that fat go?

How do you mean by where does that fat go. I eat meat and fish every day. I'm not a vegetarian. I was years ago but I loved bacon too much. I'm 20/20/60 ratio so about 100g per day carbs. I also calorie count and exercise daily. I've went from a size 39in waist to 30in. Maintaining is the hard part.

If you want to ask, then I would be wary of atherosclerosis in coming years. Statistically that's partly where the fat goes. A video I recently watched from Mic the Vegan even talks about the science behind back pain being associated with meat in a diet.

youtube.com/watch?v=JepHGvL...

My mother-in-law has dimentia and that is caused by the build up of fat (amyloid) in the brain causing synapses to become dysfunctional.

For those people eating eggs, did you know they are explicitly not allowed to say eggs are nutritionally good for you? My m-in-law really enjoys her daily boiled eggs. Not much I can do about my m-in-law's dimentia since she lives with a sister-in-law and husband who love their meat & dairy.

If you disagree with these points please post. I would love to see the science contradicting the above. After all that's what this forum is about.

Sorry but a history of atherosclerosis must be present for it to continue. Including family history.

I'd question the source of meat and dairy if you believe it's causing dementia. Which I've never heard of being caused by meat and dairy.

Plus a study of 26 doesn't prove this scientifically.

What country are you in. I'm UK.

UK, nr oxford. scotsman.com/future-scotlan...

Do you have any thing recent as that's 7 years old.

Plus it's a newspaper article.

So we have to become vegetarian to avoid dementia your words

For me that's a no I have a wide variety of a diet which includes meat.

I source my meat from the butchers and know where it's from.

My eggs are laid by my own hens.

I don't eat refined foods at all now but can slip back into it

I don't eat rice,pasta, potatoes, bread not even the whole grain ones.

I decided on this diet to get the sugars down because the eat well plate the NHS give out was making me worry for my future. I.e. Spiking my levels over 16 every day.

So I'll continue as I am for now

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A E Roher, S L Tyas, C L Maarouf, I D Daugs, T A Kokjohn, M R Emmerling, Z Garami, M Belohlavek, M N Sabbagh, L I Sue, T G Beach. Intracranial atherosclerosis as a contributing factor to Alzheimer's disease dementia. Alzheimers Dement. 2011 Jul;7(4):436-44.

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J C Kovacic, V Fuster. Atherosclerotic Risk Factors, Vascular Cognitive Impairment, and Alzheimer Disease. Mt Sinai J Med. 2012 Nov-Dec;79(6):664-73.

H Dolan, B Crain, J Troncoso, S M Resnick, A B Zonderman, R J Obrien. Atherosclerosis, dementia, and Alzheimer disease in the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Aging cohort. Ann Neurol. 2010 Aug;68(2):231-40.

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The left side is what atherosclerosis in the brain looks like. The right side is what it should look like. This is taken from the 2011 study above.

suramo
suramoStar in reply to andyswarbs

andyswarbs

Of course there is science behind lchf diet.

Fat stored in the body comes from carbs and not good fats. When you take carby meal insulin is secreted and extra carbs are converted into lct - palmitic acid and stored as fat . When you take high fat diet insulin response is almost absent. This low insulin levels cause lipolysis. Good fats - co, vco, ghee etc contain sct and mct. These fatty acids are absorbed via portal vein to liver and burnt there soon to give energy. That's the basis of BPC.

Nafld - liver becoming fatty resolves only if you take low carb diet.

Keto diet improves alzheimer's, epileptic fits and parkinson tremors. Also joint pain and fibromyalgia.

I don't agree with vegan diet as promoted in the video. Vegan diet grossly lack vit d.

andyswarbs
andyswarbs in reply to suramo

Please cite research.

suramo
suramoStar in reply to andyswarbs

andyswarbs

"HEALTH EFFECTS OF VEGAN DIETS. Vegan diets are usually higher in dietary fiber, magnesium, folic acid, vitamins C and E, iron, and phytochemicals, and they tend to be lower in calories, saturated fat and cholesterol, long-chain n–3 (omega-3) fatty acids, vitamin D, calcium, zinc, and vitamin B-12 (8)."

"Story at-a-glance -

People who eat a strictly plant-based diet may suffer from subclinical protein malnutrition. You’re also at risk for a number of other nutrient deficiencies, as some simply cannot be obtained from plant foods

Eight nutrients you cannot get from plant foods include: vitamin B12, creatine, carnosine, taurine, vitamin D3, heme-iron, the omega-3 fat DHA, and sulfur."

And very recent

google.co.in/url?sa=t&sourc...

andyswarbs
andyswarbs in reply to suramo

It is true that someone who is a vegan can be very unhealthy. Unfortunately a large section of society is overweight, and that most doctors consider unhealthy.

I strongly recommend that everyone, vegans included, take B12 supplements it seems even people on a heavy meat diet can be short of B12. A person who grows their own vegetables from their own garden using organic methods then probably gets enough B12. Shop bought vegetables are often hosed down to make them clean. This removes any B12.

I've already addressed in a post above about omega 3 which is only needed in high quantities if you have a high omega 6 input, the type that comes from animal fats.

You are right that the average person is short of VitD. Modern society has people sat in cars and offices well away from sunshine.

Did I say that when my Rheumatoid Arthritis was bad I was also anaemic? Chronic (ie related to illness) anaemia is common in people with RA. Because I get monthly blood tests (ordered by my doctor because of the methotrexate I was taking) I know that as soon as my RA became under control (ie my CRP returned to normal) my anemia magically disappeared. I do recommend adding lemon juice to any spinach and other greens, a delicious, cheap and healthy way to ensure the iron in spinach can be metabolised.

If I had my way everyone should get monthly blood tests to show where they are missing key nutrition. May I ask do you?

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I have never met a vegan with a protein deficiency have you ??

suramo
suramoStar in reply to Hidden

Frankly speaking i have never met a vegan.

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Hidden in reply to suramo

then why are you telling other people about being vegan when firstly your obviously not a vegan and you just said you have never met a vegan?

suramo
suramoStar in reply to Hidden

That's what andyswarbs wanted. "Cite a research". And it's what scientific research has found out.

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what does that have to do with you telling people something that you have never experienced

suramo
suramoStar in reply to Hidden

Science. Proven facts. We don't need to experience everything and say. We have to learn from others and research. We don't need an experience to advise against going into a deep water 😃😄

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