Desperate for bread

[Ian67]

I need a recipe for dummies for bread.. Can't tolerate the GF stuff.. But desperately need bread for out and about meals.

[Ian67]

I tried the bread maker.. Didn work

[judithr]

Try the dfs ciabatta rolls - but they are gf. Not really sure that I understand your question!

[Hidden]

Hi Ian, I take it that you mean that you can not tolerate the codex wheat gf bread? You can get wheat free gf bread and flour on prescription.

The secret with using a bread maker for gf bread is to either get a bread maker with a gf setting or use the ''quick'' setting. This is because normal bread dough is knocked back and then rises a 2nd time. And gf bread dough does not rise a 2nd time, hence the gf or quick setting.

And you can always resort to a loaf of Genius gf bread from the supermarket.

[Ian67]

No I don't really do well on GF products...

Just thrown a bread maker away after painstakingly time over Gettin a brick out of it..gave up

[weee]

Tesco Free From Ciabatta is the most delicious thing. Its with rosemary and you slice it toast it with cheese and have some choritzo on top

ooh yummy..

[Liana]

You may be reacting to one or more ingredients in the bread. I have created several recipes that might be of help to you. They don't use yeast or legume flours. Try a traditional Irish soda bread. Here's a great recipe simple to make in your own kitchen where you control everything. I have even included alternate flour mixtures I have used:

Tradtional Style Soda Bread:

4 cups gluten free, grain free flour:

1 c. quinoa flour

1 c. almond meal

1 c. tapioca flour

½ c. light buckwheat flour

¼ c. ground chia flour or ground flax seed flour

¼ c. amaranth flour

2 tsp baking soda

2 tsp baking powder

2 tsp xanthan gum

1 tsp salt

2 tsp dried herbs : 1 tsp onion powder

1 tsp dried parsley

2 Tbsp honey

2 cups butter milk or soured lactose free milk ( 2 cups milk + 1 Tbsp lemon juice or vinegar ) At room temp or heated in the microwave for 1 minute

2 large free range eggs, beaten

6 Tbsp. butter at room temperature.

Combine the dry ingredients and mix well. Add the butter and work into the flour using your finger tips until it is totally integrated and the mixture is like a fine meal. Set aside.

Mix the eggs and milk together. Make a well in the middle of the dry ingredients and add the wet ingredients. Stir gently until it is completely mixed, but not over mixed.

Turn the dough into a well greased loaf pan or frying pan that can go into the oven. Let it sit for 30 minutes. Brush the top with oil and cut an X in the top with a knife to allow the top to rise without splitting.

Bake at 375F for about 1 hour and 30 minutes or until a knife or toothpick can be inserted into the bread and come out clean. If at any time the top is browning quickly, cover loosely with tin foil and return to the oven.

When baked, turn out onto a rack and allow to cool. Store in the refrigerator.

Tip: Line the frying pan with parchment paper for ease of removal of the bread after cooking.

Alternate Flour Mixtures:

Mix #1

1 cup tapioca starch

½ cup brown rice flour

½ cup sweet rice flour

1 cup millet

1 cup quinoa

2 tsp xanthan gum

herbs

Mix #2

1 cup tapioca flour

½ cup brown rice flour

½ cup sweet white rice flour

1 cup almond meal

1 cup quinoa

2 tsp xanthan gum

Mix #3

1 1/3 cup sorghum flour

1 1/3 cup teff flour

1 1/3 cup quinoa flour

1Tbsp xanthan gum

[Ian67 in reply to Liana]

Liana.. Thanks. But it seems a bit to much to be doing every night..feel like I live in the kitchen as it is

[Liana in reply to Ian67]

This is a very large loaf Ian. It fills an 11" frying pan and makes a large round loaf, like an artisan bread. I can't eat it all in a week and so I refrigerate what I want to eat immediately and freeze the rest. I understand what you mean about "living in the kitchen". For those of us who are ultra sensitive, it becomes a way of life. I also use it as bread crumbs and for stuffing. If I change up the herbs, I can make bread pudding from it. It also makes great egg stratta and other savoury dishes.

[Ian67 in reply to Liana]

Can I not just buy one off you...

[Liana in reply to Ian67]

lol! I wish I could do that for you! If I figure out how to ship commercially from Canada, I'll let you know. I have a line of cupcakes and cakes I'd like to launch as well Ü Best wishes for success there in the UK.

[hayleyhappyface in reply to Liana]

Hi Liana,

You've just aswered my prayers with this!

I spent all evening last night researching gluten free foods, and was particularly looking for good flour mixes for bread, as the one I tried using Doves Farm brown bread mix turned out a disaster- like a flat stodgy brick!.....

My son is wheat/gluten intolerant (celiac? but test came out negative)and i have recently gone gluten free myself to see if it makes a difference to my hormone problems- so thankyou very much! We will be testing these out...Can you please tell me a good online supplier of gluten foods and these flours please Liana? PM me if you can.....

Many thanks XX

[Ruth462]

Liana: Thanks for the receipe

Can I ask are you based in the UK as I have not heard of some of the flours that you mention? and also the cup measurement varies around the world

Thanks

[Liana in reply to Ruth462]

I live in Canada, Ruth. We use Imperial measurements just like in the UK. You can use any blend of gluten free flours. What you use will impact the taste of course. Just make sure you add xanthan gum as the binder and it will work fine. You're right. We're very fortunate in North America in that we have access to a wide variety of different types of flours. I'll share a secret ... the combination of teff, sorghum and quinoa or tapioca creates a more elastic dough. Not quite as elastic as wheat, but the teff /sorghum /quinoa blend with tripple the amount of xanthan makes great pasta dough! You should be able to order these online and have them shipped to you. I have no idea what the cost would be...perhaps prohibitive.

[Ruth462 in reply to Liana]

Thank you soo much. Most useful to know it is American cups rather than Australian! I've been looking for a pasta dough for ages. I will certainly give it a go.

We can get most things on line but as you point out the shipping costs can be prohibitive.

Thanks again.

[Hidden in reply to Ruth462]

Ruth, all these flours are available in the UK. Most are available mail order (online) though of course "almond meal" is sold here as ground almonds (and available in any supermarket). Some Tescos and many health food shops stock brown rice flour (or Dove's sell rice flour that is a mixture of brown and white). Quinoa flour and tapioca are available in some healthfood shops or online, same goes for millet. Sorghum is available via Lavida Foods (selling Bob's Red Mill) online. Sweet rice flour is hard to find though Asian shops stock it but you have to be prepared to risk trying some to see if it is safe (from contamination). I buy sweet rice (glutinous rice) and grind my own.

If you need links to any stockists just shout!

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

I meant to say, I buy things say monthly and find which online stores sell most of the items I need. Grouping it together usually puts me into the free delivery range. If they don't offer free delivery then I wait till I have a big order so that per item the delivery is spread out (if that makes sense).

[Angelbelle]

Genius is better toasted. Warbutons now do gf which looks and tastes alright. If I am eating out,I ask in cafes etc if they have gf sandwiches etc and if they say no I've started e mailing hq's to ask that they do something about it.

[Kaarina]

Buy the packets of Laucke bread mix, white or mixed grain. Simple to make, tastes ok. You add the mix to water, quickly mix up and POUR (it is a batter) into a plenty big enough loaf tin as it rises to double its size and it really does! Made that mistake only once!

Lakeland sell the packets.

kaarina

[Kaarina]

ps

This is called Gluten and Dairy Free Laucke Easy Bakers and is not suitable for bread makers. Price about £4.19 which includes two packets of mix in each box.

Kaarina

[Ian67 in reply to Kaarina]

Where are these from?

[jmjhoh in reply to Kaarina]

Hi Kaarina

I was pleased to see what you had to say about this breadmix and I was thinking I would like to try it but I couldnt find out enough nutritional info about it or details of the manufacturing process, what concerns me is cross contamination as it is made in a mill that handles wheat and other grains. I found the manufacturers website but it didnt say anything about the handling of gluten free products. I dont know whether more info is given on the actual product, if nearer to a lakeland store I would go and look at one I suppose you have had no adverse reaction to it. good wishes June

[Kaarina in reply to jmjhoh]

Hi June

You could email them with any questions that you have. It does not answer your question on the bread mix package, as I have just had a look.

[e-mail]

Kaarina

[jmjhoh in reply to Kaarina]

Thanks for that I will see if I can find out more from them.

June

[Kaarina]

Sorry I meant to include that information in my ps. ooops!

Lakeland.

Kaarina

[Kaarina]

There are 57 stores in the UK. If this bread mix suits and there is not a shop that near to you, you can order on line. If you spend more than £30, delivery is free.

Kaarina

[remysmum]

Warburtons gluten free bread is superb. You can buy it in asda and waitrose

Irene

[Lazydaisy in reply to remysmum]

Thats down to taste I don't like it much mind you maybe thats me I ve tried so may and dont like the taste of any of them

[1stgls]

I would like a GF bread that does not fall apart as soon as it gets a little wet, I am really missing fried egg sandwhiches but no matter which bread I use I end up with a sticky disgusting mess. I also find it does not travel well so picnics with cheese sandwhiches are also out

[louloo]

the new warburtons sliced brown and white is a soft sliced bread and its delicious, it tends to fall apart easily but I love it, give it a try in the Free From ranges everywhere. Make your own from the packets of bread mix too, these are also tolerable.

Lynn x

[essexgirl]

i buy mine off a website ... fantastic bread just like normal ... they are doing a sample pack at moment so worth a try

wheatfreebakery.com

debs x

[Hidden]

Over the years I think I've tried every bread going. I really thought the 'new' 'fresh' breads would be different but they aren't. They definitely taste better but will still crumble unless 'refreshed' first. I pop my slices into the toaster on the lowest setting...then prop the slices up until they cool and then make my sandwiches. I find this activates the 'stretchy' bit and they last easily until a late lunch without falling apart. It also copes with warm fillings if you do this first. Hope you might find this useful

[louloo in reply to Hidden]

thats a brilliant tip, thanks for that, I will certainly give it a try and let you know, LOL. x

[HazelG]

Ian try the genius again they have just altered the recipe for all three loaves to match the seeded (the one not available on prescription). Also have you heard of Garbo available by mail order several breads including one made with Quinoa. they had it at Allergy and freefrom show (Olympia) which is running today. the only website i have found so far is bestpartner.nl/ will contact to ask for UK suppliers. they also make delicious doghnuts.

[Ian67 in reply to HazelG]

Doughnuts! Did I hear doughnuts!

Thanks

[HazelG in reply to Ian67]

half way through getting the UK supplier for the bread and donuts. I also got a list yesterday from Eskal's store re internet suppliers for a large number of products. Just looked on dietaryneedsdirect.co.uk they have the Canadian flours mentioned by Liana and lots more.

Teff 1kg £6.60 Quinoa 500g 2.25 Sorghum not available but only as a pancake mix so tapioca 500g 3.35.

The Eskal products are worth looking at too with wafers, biscuits crackers and dairy free desserts.

hope this helps - i know it is hard adjusting to changes in diet try to have the faith to believe that you will find something you like. In the end it is just not possible to completely exclude carbohydrate and bread is a pretty essential part of that. Failing bread have you thought of making some wraps with either rice flour or buckwheat. that is quite easy to do in a large frying pan and you can keep the batter in the fridge overnight and make them fresh in minutes the next morning. just look up pancake recipes on say BBC and add a little extra milk because GF flours do soak up moisture.

[Hidden in reply to HazelG]

Sorghum is available via Lavida Foods who sell Bob's Red Mill in the UK. Free delivery with orders over £30. You can get their bread mixes etc - stuff you always see our American GF friends mentioning - as well as sorghum. Their online shop is glutenfreefoodmarket.com/

[jackieO]

I have just used a pack of Sainsbury Free From brown bread rolls over 3 days. Not a single bit of bread lost! Well impressed to have a decent sized roll that looks and feels like real(toxic) bread, does not have MASSIVE air holes in it like Genius tends to a and has not fallen apart when handled and filled. One was used to make a ham and cloeslaw sandwich for my lunch and it was still perfectly edible and easy to handle 3 hours after being made when I ate it at work.

[Lazydaisy in reply to jackieO]

I m glad its not me I really thought I was being unlucky as nearly everytime I buy the Genus rolls they have huge holes in them paying for half a roll

[Ian67]

Thanks everyone... I love this site

[FionaGFG Administrator]

Hi Ian if you need bread when out and about try Sainsbury's. The Free From aisle even in the small ones often do those bubble packs of rolls - handy for a quick lunch sandwich or with soup for lunch. Waitrose also do a two decent GF sandwiches - you'll have to snap them up early on the way to work to get them tho as they fly out.

I'd try and re-think your bread addiction if you can. You see the processed GF breads are still full of things we're not used to eating so we can react to them. Many are also high in fibre and we bloat easily after them. Swapping old gluten ways for gluten free replacements isn't really the answer to better health GF. I know it's hard to do but consider going breadless for a bit and see how you cope and how creative you can be. Don't forget there's always rice and we've spyed some great new prescription items which we'll be posting up soon that were at the Allergy Show.

[ianwoowoo in reply to FionaGFG]

Hi Fiona, I have seen pa few new things popping up on the prescription list but god it is hard work getting hold of them. I sent my lat list to the doctors on the 12th May and I'm still waiting for my Genius Bread. Every month is a battle with the doctors and chemist as some things aren't on the doctors system and then the chemist struggles to get hold of some of the things. I really is enough to put me off using the prescription service.

With reference to your comment about hi fibre and bloating, I thought eating the high fibre variants of breads was better for us to help reduce cholesterol and keep the digestive system moving and healthy? Am I wrong there? I must admit since I started eating the GF bread more regularly after 6 months I do seem to be more bloated more of the time. Maybe I should revert back to bread free again for a while to see if it is that causing the problem.

[ianwoowoo in reply to ianwoowoo]

Apologies for mis-spelling and missing letters! My fruit based tablet seems to want to change every word I type!

[Ian67]

Hi Fiona... I gave up bread 12 months ago.. But ate some a few months ago and got very bloated, think I asked on here and was advised not to eat GF food..

But I do miss the convenience of bread tho.. For sandwiches at work etc.. Sick of cold jacket spuds and rice now..

[Lexy in reply to Ian67]

Do you tolerate eggs Ian? I sometimes make a very quick omelette in the morning (you can always add stuff: cheese, small bits of salmon, veggies...) and put it in small container and eat that at lunchtime. Might be an option?

[Penel]

Have you tried quinoa or buckwheat grains as a change from rice? I can't eat yeast so I sometimes make my own 'soda' bread, but it isn't much good for sandwiches I'm afraid!

[terri]

has anyone tried sainsburys seeded bread from free from fresh range - it is the best i have tasted - is soft and you can spread butter without it falling to pieces - also first bread i dont need to toast to eat it. They also have great fruitbread loaf

[ianwoowoo]

I have just tried some Lifestyle High Fibre GF Rolls which are available on prescription and they are very good, no weird smell or after taste. I do tend to toast them as they are a bit on the firm side and they do have a short shelf life but I'd say they are the best I've tried. Ian, why don't you get a pre-pay prescription for 3 months and try all the different breads that are available, this would safe you a fortune in the long term. I'm working my way thought the list - must be driving my doctors mad as I turn up with a different list every month at the moment but it's the only way you can find out what you like and can tolerate.

[autogirl]

Hi, its easy to make your own bread with a bread maker, the panasonic one is

said to be good with a coeliac program. i use my old morphy richards.

i use dove farm GF flour and only use one tablespoon grapeseed oil.

the recipe is on the back. the machine mixes it and then cooks it. yummy.

you have to use milk and eggs and of course sugar for the yeast by the way

a small loaf uses 3 teaspoons of yeast and it tasts great.

[ianoracle]

Try the Juvela fibre bread mix. Available on prescription if you are in UK. Works quite well if made by hand but I invested in Panasonic Bread Maker with a special Gluten Free setting. It produces delicious light bread on a consistant basis. My partner, who is not GF, prefers this to normal wholemeal bread now.

[maggiehelen]

look into the FINDLATER,s FINE FOODS. Based in Scotland with outlets around the uk . you won,t be disapointed .try there Tight bread. when you get it home take off the wrapping . leave to "dry " the crust for a few hours..get the "alter to bread" ready , best butter etc, .ENJOY .

[maggiehelen]

Try "FINDLATER,s Fine FOODs . Based in Scotland and outlets around the uk . Try the Tiger bread.