Milk protein allergy and coeliac disease

[Researchfan]

Cases of milk protein-induced villous atrophy in coeliac disease children. Published 2020.

meddocsonline.org/annals-of...

Milk protein, soya protein, as well as gluten can cause blunting of villi in the small intestine consistent with coeliac disease.

Something to consider in anyone not healing the gut on a strict gluten free diet regardless of symptoms.

[Heman69]

After going gluten free I still had problems in the gut after a lot of trials and errors I worked out it was the casein in cows milk and cheese that was still causing me problems after going gluten free so I swapped to goats milk and that solved the problem completely casein as well as gluten where the problems doctors are not ware of the casein problem with dairy either had to work it out myself.

[jointpain in reply to Heman69]

Hi, I think you will find that the villi in your ilium were damaged by gluten, which is why you were unable to digest milk. Milk requires lactase to breakdown the lactose during digestion. The villi in the ilium when in good condition produce lactase, and also reabsorb vitamin B12, both needed in digestive processes. After around 18 months of abstaining from gluten I was able to digest milk and milk products. I am still abstaining from gluten.

[Researchfan in reply to jointpain]

Agree milk sugar is unable to be digested in damaged small intestine. What’s interesting when digging into the research is the need to separate lactose intolerance from milk protein intolerance/allergy. It’s been shown in the above articles that the children on gluten free diet became asymptomatic but because they were being monitored they could see the gut was still damaged and the gluten autoantibodies high even though strict gf. Only when a milk and gluten free diet was introduced the villi recovered and the autoantibodies returned to normal - within 2 to 3 months in these children after years on gluten free diet.

[Heman69 in reply to jointpain]

No it was 100% casein that I’m allergic too as well as gluten that’s a fact when I have any cows dairy of any kind It makes me I’ll straight away and the skin starts peeling of my face in the same area every time I’m not lactose intolerant as I was tested for that and I’m ok with lactose when I don’t have cows dairy I’m fine. goats milk is ok for me because it only contains a tiny fraction of casein if any at all and it’s also anti inflammatory the research is their for everyone to read online.

[jointpain in reply to Heman69]

Yes an allergy is a bit different to an intolerance, as I said a damaged ilium can cause digestive problems.

[Narwhal10 in reply to Heman69]

Hi Heman69,

Sorry to hear what you have experienced and thank goodness you finally found out it was casein. There was quite a bit of research in 50’s and 60’s about casein and gluten having extra intestinal affects especially in neuropsychiatric patients. All that good work has been forgotten. Unless you talk to dieticians and even better functional practitioners who know that dairy (casein) and lactose are detrimental.

Best wishes

[bookish]

Thanks for that really useful information. I can't find mention of soya - was that some other research or is it me being unobservant? If other, I'd be grateful for a link if you have one please. ( PS I've just found a 9 year old post and some links from 1976 - but I'd never heard that before, aargh!) I'd heard that corn could damage villi to a similar extent to wheat and know that lactase is damage-affected but didn't know about soy. Can the cow's milk protein and the soy cause non-Coeliac damage in those predisposed do you think, in the same way that gluten/grains can in the gluten intolerant? Cheers

[Researchfan in reply to bookish]

Thanks for replying.Yes, not just gluten can cause enteropathy.

I’ve been trying to find literature relating to the cows milk and soya etc. It’s fascinating research. Gluten has been researched the most. Can you post any links you’ve found from the 70s?

I found this article, first sentence in intro re. soya protein induced enteropathy.

gut.bmj.com/content/gutjnl/...

I was re-reading Elaine Gottschall, ‘Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health through Diet. Diet for Crohns, Ulcerative Colitis, Diverticulitis, Coeliac Disease, Cystic Fibrosis and chronic diarrhoea’. A.K.A. The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD).

In the book she refers to the “flattened or blunted intestinal surface having been reported in various disease states”. Among them ‘cows milk protein intolerance’ and ‘soya protein intolerance’, and bacterial overgrowth.

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[bookish in reply to Researchfan]

Brilliant, thank you. I haven't had chance to look at all the references yet, but this is the old post I found which contains them healthunlocked.com/glutenfr....

I have Micki Rose's book about gluten and that talks about corn and cross reactivity and molecular mimicry, I'll have to double check for soy information. (Partner's mother is soy allergic and I suspect undiagnosed Coeliacs in family due to major pancreatic links) Cheers

[Researchfan in reply to bookish]

Thanks for that.I’m interested in soya and it’s effects. I’m allergic to soya (mildly but nonetheless sensitive to it with igE antibodies).

I’ve not read Rose’s book, but read plenty about cross reactivity and molecular mimicry. 50% people with coeliac disease also react to corn like gluten yes. And 50% Coeliacs react to casein same as gluten. Gluten in wheat barley rye is just the tip of the iceberg.

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[bookish in reply to Researchfan]

There is such a lot to think about. I ditched gluten and got an immediately positive reaction, ditched dairy, ditto. So I got interested! I went traditional GF and realised corn was not my friend, nor rice, so I went truly gluten free as per Micki, and replaced all my supplements with corn free versions. I don't expect I'm Coeliac, but can't know for sure as testing was many months after stopping and no way I would go back on. Maybe genetic, for interest, if I win the lottery....But the combination of poor testing for gluten, no testing for food intolerances, poor testing for thyroid and for B12, leaves us all far more ill than we need be. Happy researching and good to meet you

[Researchfan in reply to bookish]

I know so much to think about!Nice to meet you too 🙂 .