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Hi, my dad was diagnosed with a glioblastoma about 4 weeks ago. He has gone from being a fairly healthy 58 year old man who travels around the UK and holidays a few times a year abroad to a man who sits on the sofa refusing to go out or do anything. He has got a healthy appetite but is eating way too much sugar.

He appears to have given up and does not want to have surgery or any treatment. He said he has done everything he wants to do in his life. He doesn’t seem depressed. He actually seems fairly content, but I’m really struggling to see him like this and not want to fight.

The Hospital told us he probably only has a few months left to live without treatment but I have read of people living longer with GBM. I am caring for him with my brother at the moment. He lives 5 hours from us so we are travelling back and forth to his house to stay with him at the moment so he is not on his own because before he went in to hospital he was really confused and his mobility was not good. This has improved with steroids but we don’t want to leave him as he is at risk of seizures and his mobility and memory could deteriorate quickly again.

We have spoken to Macmillan and palliative care but they have not been very helpful in terms of support for him at home. Palliative care said he could get a nurse in once a day. We can’t continue to stay with him forever though. I have 2 young children. Does anyone have any advice please? Thank you.

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Barebreeze

Hi kerri, This was the same as my dad. He was told it was very aggressive and untreatable due to a misdiagnosis of TIA and dementia. We were told 3 months. He passed away on 22nd May, almost 3 months to the day from finding out. I too live 3hrs away from my parents, have 2 children, 2 jobs and a single parent.

All I can suggest is make the best of the time you have with your dad. Put as much as you can of your life on sidelines and cheesy as it sounds just make memories hanging out with your dad. Talk, laugh, accept what's happening, don't try changing how your dad feels or thinks, he is the one dealt this shitty news.

It isn't at all easy, but every day, every chat, every moment together will keep those memories alive.

It is over in a flash.

Xxx

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KerriC05 in reply to Barebreeze

Thank you for this. Really appreciate your advice. Can I ask how your dad was at the point of diagnosis and how he was as he deteriorated? My dad seems ok generally but a little confused and lacking motivation to do anything and look after himself. I am not sure what to expect and how quickly he may deteriorate? Thanks

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Barebreeze in reply to KerriC05

Mu dad was the exact same. Personal care was very poor, he would attempt to shave with toothpaste, shampoo anything he found! He was a nightmare to change clothes and dribbled a lot. He also couldn't talk properly which frustrated him and knocked his confidence. He was up and down on accepting his diagnosis to start with.He was still able to walk, with a slight limp for first month or so and we would always go out for long walks, he had friends who rallied round to walk with him when I had to go home.

The meds made him eat...a lot and he developed an addiction for chocolate!

In fact he got obsessed with random things. Which could cause stress when he struggled doing them.

It wasn't until the last month that he would just stay in bed a lot sleeping, and only get up to eat. He became rather aggressive too. He went into a hospice for a med change and that was it.

The last 3 weeks he declined very very rapidly.

Please private message me if you want to.

It's so recent and quite raw for me,but I know what you're going through Kerry.xx

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KerriC05 in reply to Barebreeze

I am very sorry for your loss. I hope you are doing ok processing everything. It’s so much to take in x

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popG

Hi Kerri,

I am really sorry to hear about your dad. Talk about GBM is always negative but as you have said yourself there are positive stories. I was diagnosed with GBM nearly 4 years ago and was also given 3 months to live without treatment. I didn't even think about not taking treatment. I have a positive attitude and felt I could fight it. I had radio therapy and chemo and a year of chemo after that. I got off the steroids as soon as I could. I am now leading a normal life and doing the same things as before. My only treatment now is anti-seizure pills and 3 monthly scans.

I am positive and have a family that have been tremendously supportive. I hope my story could be helpful to your dad in showing that positive outcomes are possible. I think a healthy diet, exercise and above all a positive outlook are very important.

I wish you and your father all the best.

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birdyellow in reply to popG

Hi popG

I am very happy to hear that you are doing well . My husband was diagnosed with GBM last Novemeber. He has done radio therapy and now is on TMZ for 6 cycles. But his inflammation is not going down so he has to stay on 4mg dex for now. The doctor suggests that he should take Mvasi infusion. Can you share your story with me - how you felt in general during your treatment time. My husband tries very hard to stay positive when he is not able to read and confuse at time. Wish you all the best.

Pat

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popG in reply to birdyellow

After my initial diagnosis I was in hospital for 4 weeks all of which I don't remember. I gradually regained awareness but was unable to talk much and couldn't read. I was determined to get fit and tried to read every day. After being discharged from hospital I rested with small walks. It was hard at first but I gradually got stronger and my reading and talking improved. I managed well with the treatment. It took a good year to feel reasonably my self. A positive outlook, good diet and family support have been my saviour.

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birdyellow in reply to popG

Thanks for your insight. Were you on dexamethason and at what dosage and for how long? Did you have you tumor removed ? Were you on TMZ for one year?

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Tansi75

Hi KerriC05

Sorry to read about your dad.

I was diagnosed with my grade 4 GBM in May 2010, had it removed by surgery and went through the standard cycle of treatment. So it is possible to live beyond the prognosis for a grade 4GBM.

Can I refer you to some of my previous posts and replies I have sent to other people in a similar situation, which you might find useful.

Diet is a key component to fighting this disease, so it is important that your dad cuts out all unnecessary sugar, which feeds cancer cells and eats a health diet of fresh meat, fish, veg and fruit.

Blueberries, pecan nuts and turmeric spice have anti-cancer properties, so should be included in his diet. He can also boost his immune system by taking supplements, I have been using Higher Natures Immune Plus tablets and their Complete Omega tablets, which are also good for the brain since 2010.

I know it is a difficult time for you all at the moment, but it is important to remain positive and believe that it is possible to get through this with a positive outcome.

Another important point for your father to consider is that 'all life is terminal from the moment it is created'. Just as my life was before my diagnosis in 2010 and it is just as terminal today as it was on the day I was born.

Staying positive, talking and laughing as much as possible at the moment, with a eye open to a future ahead of you, worked for me and may certainly work for all of you.

If you have any questions about my experience, etc, please do get in contact.

A final point I need to make is you will find a comment from a 'Russ' on the site, who has also lived beyond his grade 4 GBM, he was diagnosed in 2011.

Stay strong, positive and concentrate on living in the here and now.

Kind regards,

Tansi75 :)

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birdyellow in reply to Tansi75

Hi Tansi75,

My husband was diagnosed in November last year and he had radiation therapy and TMZ.

his inflammation is not going down and they had to up his dex up to 12 mg and now he is on 4mg. But the inflammation persist and he is scheduled to have MVASI infusion to lower the inflammation. He does his exercise and walk daily. He eats no added sugar, lots of fresh vegetables and limited amount of meat. How was your first year's experience of GBM?

Thanks

Pat

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Tansi75 in reply to birdyellow

Hi Pat,

Has your husband not had his tumour removed and just had the standard treatment?

My first year's experience of my GBM was good, due to having already gone through the experience of my elder brother being diagnosed with his grade 4 GBM in 2009, he had his tumour removed and went through the standard treatment. Sadly he died in January 2010 four months before my illness and diagnosis. So I and my wife were in a far better position to deal with my diagnosis as we already knew exactly what was to come.

I became ill at work, and my wife insisted that we go straight to the nearest hospital A&E, which happened to be the same one my brother David had his tumour removed. So, I was quickly diagnosed with a possible BT, set for a scan and admitted that evening. My operation was the following Wednesday, so I benefited from fast diagnosis and treatment.

The following day, I followed my instincts and decided that prior to my operation, I needed to keep my brain working and that it was important that we ignore what had occurred the previous year regarding David's situation and outcome. I informed my wife, that we were not going down the 'what if' or considering 'what might be' scenario's. We will take each day and step, one at a time and cross any bridges that have to be crossed when we reach them.

This enabled us to concentrate on the 'here and now' and talk about what we wanted to do in the future, which is the stance we continue to follow. My wife started to do some research regarding possible treatments and found out about drinking ozonated water, which has extra oxygen in it (which kills cancer cells), so we decided to follow that up after I left hospital. I also have a dear friend who is an ex-chemist, who suggesting considering the use of 3% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide as an alternative treatment, which we researched and I started using after finishing the standard treatment and I have been using on a daily basis, since then.

Once I was out of hospital, we had previously agreed to have a holiday prior to my treatment and went on a barge cruise for a week with some relatives.

Whilst I was going through radiotherapy and chemotherapy, we would have mini breaks in Manchester, fitting in gig's when possible and doing some retail therapy. We concentrated on getting on living our lives in the best possible way as possible and have continued to do so.

I think one of the key things I have learnt from my 1st year is the importance of taking time out to rest and allow my body to recover from surgery and treatment. So, I do wonder if your husband is trying to do too much at the moment and not allowing his body to recover completely from his treatment.

My first instinct whilst in hospital and afterwards, was that I needed to maintain my previous level of fitness, which is only natural. But I didn't do it straight away, I waited 12 months before starting any daily exercise routine.

I have probably gone on too long, but hope my reply helps. If you have any follow up questions please do ask away.

I wish you both the very best for the future, stay strong, positive and laugh as much as possible.

Kind regards

Tansi75 🙂

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Hermanito in reply to Tansi75

Dear Tansi75,

Thank you for your very positive message.

My precious brother died five weeks ago of GBM, diagnosed in April 2023.

He underwent two vigil craniotomies and radiotherapy and chemotherapy twice (the first time with TMZ and the second with Lomustine).

He so much wanted to live. He was an athlete, and had been in excellent health and was as fit as a sportsman 20 years younger. He was a strong man both physically and mentally.

You told me about Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide, ozonated water etc. I wish we had followed your advice as it might have made a difference.

He went down very quickly, from still being able to walk and talk to his death three weeks later.

He was our second brother to die of this devastating disease.

Kind regards

Hermanito

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birdyellow in reply to Tansi75

Hello Tansi75

Thanks so much for sharing your story which was inspiring. My husband had his tumor removed (80%). and then SOC in Canada which is RT and TMZ. What other supplements are you taking besides the ozonated water and Hydrogen Peroxide.

Did you experience reading and writing? And how long did you stay on dexeamethason if you had it?

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Tansi75 in reply to birdyellow

Hi Pat,

After my first operation in 2010, having checked my medical folder, I was on dexamethason for about 4 weeks. During my operation they got out as much of the tumour as possible, but always err on the side of caution to not cause further damage to the brain, hence why some is left behind. I don't know how much was taken out, but was happy with the result.

I was on 4mg, twice a day - 3 days at first; reduced to 2mg, twice a day - 4 days; then 2 mg morning for the remaining days.

My tumour was in the right temporal lobe.

I have only been on TMZ for one year during the phase 1 clinical trial of SATIVEX in 2015/16; taking it for 21 days in every 28, whilst taking SATIVEX every day.

I always took my TMZ with a pint of ozonated water - I use a SOTA water ozonator, which is made in Canada. I prefered to take my tablet before going to bed, so I could sleep through any potential side effects, which worked for me.

The other supplements I take are Higher Nature's Immune Plus tablets, which are designed to boost the immune system and their Complete Omega tablets, which are good for the brain, which I take on a daily basis.

Regarding reading I did suffer from a lack of concentration at first, but this has improved over time. I do use a dictionary when I am reading, as I have forgotten the meaning of certain words and sometimes have to re-read parts of a chapter to fully understand it. I just view this as part of re-educating myself and one of the adjustments to be made to how I live my life now. But, it hasn't stopped my enjoyment of reading, the last book I finished was Thomas Mann's the 'Magic Mountain'. I am now reading one of my late father's books 'The History Makers' which covers the last century.

Writing - again I use a dictionary a lot; I was never a good speller, so have always used one throughout my adult life. Whilst I can now spell correctly words I previously couldn't, I also find that I can't spell words I used to be able to. Once again, part of my self-improvement process.

I hope this proves useful.

Stay positive, and believe you can both get through this with a positive outcome.

Tansi75 🙂

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KerriC05

Thank you for your reply. I am glad you have had a positive story. Unfortunately my Dad does not want surgery or treatment. The hospital were not even convinced they could operate due to how big the tumour is. They decided they would try and resect as much as they could but my Dad refused.

He seems to have resigned himself to the fact he is dying and does not feel he has anything left to do with his life. He is not listening to any of us with regards to eating healthily and he is not looking after his personal care or wanting to get out the house. We are trying to stay strong and positive ourselves, but it is difficult given my Dad’s views. One blessing is that he seems content with his decision and he is not distressed in any way at the moment.

Thanks for your advice.

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