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HELP is what we need, not supression.

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Hiding information or not discussing information that can help us all is crazy, “Whether something is available or not available on the NHS is in material. it is correct to highlight the importance for individuals on this forum and for us all to understand what help is available for certain symptoms. Individuals they may be fortunate enough to pay for their care or find other options.

It is my opinion, what we do wrong in the UK is look at Fibro as an umbrella As “If there is no evidence for fibromyalgia forget it” just keep taking your antidepressants.

Evidence is obtained by asking the question, forums like this are a voice to understand the condition and its symptoms, you won’t get the feedback the members deserve if you write everything off with “there is no evidence for fibro”.

The reason why there is little of no evidence is that we do not have the money to throw at fibro, little or no trials, research or investigation again down to money and we are not dying from it in our thousands.

This is highlighted with the recent epidemic, if thousands of us start dying of fibro the government will throw millions in funding to find a cure or at the very least some effective medication. Just as it did with COVID and hey presto we find a vaccine, that was because we threw millions of pounds at it.

But this condition is complex, evidence suggest that treatment for individual symptoms must be looked at and cared by other health care professionals. This is written in the NHS guideline for diagnosis. Fibro is a combination of factors that reveal symptoms under the overall heading of fibromyalgia.

I read on this forum simple question relating to fibromyalgia that should clearly be discussed and delt with at diagnosis, I feel the pain of these individuals struggling to make sense, shattered with nowhere to turn to, yes, this forum is great to answer these questions and support each other. It could also work with some of the evidence, reviews and feedback on specific drugs and treatment collated and sent to the NHS to substantiate proven success.

Some of the people on this site are at the end of their tether, just like I have been over the years, they need answers and hope.

It is not right to defend an organisation just based on its inabilities of management or that it is better than other countries or that it is due to lack of staff, neither is it beneficial to bring up a formal complaint to the NHS and waste more funds. The NHS is doing its best, I am not here to poke fun!. What is needed is group support, group acknowledgement with circumstantial evidence within a group to bring about substantial changes for the benefit of us all.

What individuals need to know is the truth, that their symptoms can be assessed and treated by other departments in the NHS or other providers other than rheumatology. Evidence proves this.

Making remarks to suggest that “No evidence, No trials, to show it will help fibromyalgia” is frankly bonkers as it can stop us vulnerable people trying things for ourselves, what we need is hope not discouragement.

I am not here to preach to anybody, but I do feel it important to highlight the facts for each individual symptom. Whilst the NHS does a Job, individuals in the early phases of this condition need to understand there are areas of their symptoms that can be looked at independently.

"desquinn" If you are not happy with me sharing my views and findings just say that. Sorry about my grammar and spelling I am a bit dyslexic too.😏

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going to lock this post as we do have a discussion on PM which I have replied to, However you do seem to have replied here rather than on the pm.

Reason for asking you about your posting is down to you not interacting on posts yet making about 8 posts over past couple of days (4 in 24 hours) that are pointing to other sources that seem like you are advocating info. As I have said this is primarily a support group and not for broadcasting info as it becomes like spamming.

None of your posts have been hid

Asking questions is fine but suggesting you have answers is what some of the posts sound like

Agree with your point that more money will result in more and better research and covid has shined a light but that is not the same as saying there is no evidence. Clauw, Wolfe, Yunis etc

You say it is not right to defend and organisation.... meaning the NHS but it is too easy to sling mud without the full picture. If our NHS was the issue then other Health services would be showing the way and unfortunately in respect of fibro there is no country without issues.

You mention "truth" and say evidence shows that rheumis are not the way but you do not support it. Also the direction of flow within the NHS is going to be away from Rheumis and move it towards GPs. I do not agree this is always best for fibro patients but there is evidence of why this is good for how patients are treated overall.

the "bonkers" comment you refer to was on a post that was a snake oil (IMO) / hypnotist site so believe it was relevant.

My comment about broadcasting was apt but preaching would be suitable as well. Looking at each symptom individually can be a lifelong fruitless and counterproductive journey and the stress and loss of "life" is not going to be in the patients interest a lot of the time. You are not the first to think "their is a simple answer" to everyone's problem. And there are many that suggest this that or other cure to be the simple solution be it special sugar,m cough syrup, some other condition that you must have..... etc This is very clost to fibromyalgia does not exist and should be looking somewhere else.

no problem with understanding you and no issue with you sharing your views but your creating new posts about your findings and then not engaging is not what the site is for, I do not have to agree with your findings but will call out things that I think are without foundation and will defend the NHS if you are oversimplifying the approaches in place.

I agree this community can help with both each other and improving things but while it easy to say everyone is doing it wrong it is harder to say lets get together and come up with a plan of how we can help. Followed by something constructive that moves things forward.

lets continue by PM

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