We got our day-5 call from the embryologist today and feel disappointed that only 3 (4AA, 4AB, 4AB) have reached the blastocyst stage. We will be going for FET due to OHSS.
I wanted to get some advice from the community:
1. What are the success rates for the frozen embryo to survive when thawed? Are we expecting these numbers to drop further before they are implanted?
2. Our treatment plan does not include PGT-A testing. Is that recommended? HFEA has it marked `Red`(hfea.gov.uk/treatments/trea...
2. What can we do to increase our chances of successful implantation
Age:38
During IVF - lining reached 7.8mm
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The likelihood of embryos surviving the thaw is higher than 90% usually. Very good odds. PGTA is usually only recommended if there is a history of miscarriage, failed implantation or known genetic issues or previous known chromosomal issues of embryo.
I have to say I think 3 blastocysts of those grades is very good and whilst I know you are disappointed, many many people struggle to get one embryo or any embryos for that matter so I think you are in a good position👍
I think the odds are good. I would recommend after transfer take next 2-3 days from coach, to the bed, to the chair, back to the coach. Besides the urban myth of the mc Donald’s chips! Good luck!
3 blastocysts out of 10 is pretty decent. And the grades very good.I'd say that I would be delighted to have 3 embryos of that quality. As others said there's over 90%chance of surviving the thaw. Mine with average and poor grades survived. The only one didn't survived was one that had a really poor grade.Some clinics say that frozen transfers are better than fresh. I know that it's a delay, that's how I felt, but loads of women have success with frozen transfers.
When I was 37-38 (I am 40 now) I remember getting upset for my low number of embryos compared to the number of eggs collected and fertilised.Although this forum has been been a great source of information and support sometimes I found myself upset when I was comparing my results with others in here with super high AMH or much younger age.
Hi there. I thought I would share my experience with you. I also developed OHSS and ended up having to do a frozen transfer. They managed to retrieve 19 eggs, 12 were mature and only 3 made it to blast. (4AB, 3AB, 3BB) I for one did not get PTG-A testing and they used my best grade embryo. My transfer was successful first time and I now have a 14 week old little boy.
What I think helped for me was I cut out caffeine and I also took a few days off work and rested and I tested positive a week after my transfer.
If I had done a fresh transfer, I don’t think my transfer would have been successful as my body needed time to heal. I done my frozen cycle 3 months after my egg retrieval and I’m glad I did it then as I believe this also helped my chances.
I am 25 years old. Was 24 at the time.
It’s not about the quantity, it’s about the quality.
Wishing you all the best my lovely. If you need a chat, you can always send me a message.
Hi, the blastocysts usually survive the thaw ok cos they have a lot more cells (70-100) , but day 2/3 embryos doesn't have many (4-8 cells), they might not recover if 1 or 2 cells are damaged in the process. Eggs are the worst cos they're single cell.
congrats! 3 from 10 is a good number! And they are very good grades. Did they say if any of the others are still going? As you could get some day 6 blastocysts which can also be good.
They are likely to survive the thaw the odds are very high. Over 90% normally.
PGT-A can be helpful but not necessary, it is marked red on HFEA as it doesn’t improve your chances of getting pregnant but it can reduce the time it takes to get pregnant. Statistically At 38 out of 3 embryos 1 (or two if you are lucky) are likely to be ‘normal’. And PGT- A would just help you know which one(s) that way you could avoid transferring the ‘abnormal’ ones. It can save time and money, but it’s not completely failsafe.
Successful implantation is very hard to determine - lots of people don’t need to do anything and their first one works! Some people (like me) have multiple failures and then need lots more testing to uncover underlying things that are hindering implantation. But normally on your first cycle and transfer it’s sometimes best just going for it unless you have obvious issues.
One thing I would say is make sure you have enough progesterone- pessaries and injections together would be best.
hey, I had 3 blasts from 11 fertilised and all were lower grades than yours. We have a 9 month old very active boy from a 4BB so I’m really hopeful for you! Was 35 at the time.
I think the odds of successful thawing from blastocyst is really good, particularly from those grades so you should be in a good position with regards to that!
Hello hun, in terms of helping implantation there are some supplements you can take running up to a FET, have a look at the book and website 'It Starts with the Egg'. I believe good blood flow to the uterus is also helpful so take gentle exercise, walking, rather than being inactive. As others have said talk to your clinic about making sure your Progesterone levels are good. Very best of luck!
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